In apparent reversal, Trump encourages Floridians to vote by mail

Yes, many do. But they've had it in place in most cases for years at this point. I lived in WA state for about 6 years, and they had (optional) vote by mail for everyone, and were/are equipped to handle it. But it took them 5 YEARS to get to that point, and they weren't competing with 2 dozen other States to acquire the required infrastructure all at the same time. I now live in FL who, like WA, has had it in place for a long time, which is the root of Trump's comment regarding FL being OK for vote by mail, even if I can articulate why better than he can/has.

Hell, even the current (D) SoS of WA agrees with me on the "there's not enough time" point I've been trying to make.

 

So good for me but not for thee huh?

The fact that various states have done this means that the wheel doesn't have to be re-invented.

ALL states have had absentee balloting for decades by the way

 

Yes, they have to be registered voters. And yes, in theory anyway, they have to be citizens to become a registered voter. But a lot of States, as I previously stated, do not require them to PROVE that they are citizens resulting in an unknown (and at present, unknowable) number of illegally registered voters. And frankly, yes, that puts the integrity of the entire election process into serious doubt. To me, requiring some sort of proof is an absolute no brainer, and I'm surprised it's even LEGAL not to. I was absolutely shocked when I first learned about it.

 

I believe that you may be referring to some of these statements from April:

https://crosscut.com/2020/04/washingtons-successful-vote-mail-system-wasnt-built-overnight

 

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that the process to acquire said infrastructure and put in place the necessary procedures cannot be done in 5 months, especially when a lot of States are trying to do it at the same time. The companies who build the equipment can't build that many that quickly. The companies who do the printing don't have enough bandwidth to provide the required forms/etc. that quickly. And so on.

I am *NOT* making any partisan statements here, only that what is being proposed is simply impossible. And, as I previously said, the Democratic SoS of WA State, who is in charge of running elections there, agrees with me, and knows more about the process than you and I combined times 1,000.

Vote by mail requires the ability to create and process the needed ballots in much higher numbers than absentee voting, because absentee voting requires a valid reason to do so. "I'm in the military serving in another State, or overseas." "I'm on vacation in Australia." "My health prevents me from going to the polls." Those sorts of things. For vote by mail, "I feel like it" is not only good enough, they don't even ask the question.

 

what we have been discussing and what the president has discussed is universial mail in ballot v absentee ballots

and you know this

 

I know that the man is not ****ing smart enough to craft a rational argument.

 

nah it was rational it just took you a lot time to finally acknowledge the difference in universial mail in voting and absentee. to be fair the liberal media was driving a false narrative to you so it was likely hard for you to understand

 

Mail-In Voting and Absentee are (essentially) the SAME Thing.

^Anybody who doesn't understand that (basic) concept is Egregiously Misinformed.

 

univerial mail in voting and absentee voting only have in common the fact the mail can be used for absentee voting. They are drastically different beyond that and universial mail in voting is horribly insecure and ripe for issues...just look at what is happening in NY and NJ and look at the new NV law.

if you suggest otherwise you are grossly misinformed and being outright lied to

 

Absentee and Mail In Voting are the same thing.

Some States impose an additional (and unnecessary) step of making voters request the absentee/mail in ballot.

 

The only place where Trump accepts Mail In voting are the States where he needs GOP voters to use Mail In voting.

 

not true he’s routinely praised absentee ballots just not NYC, NJ. and NV scams.

and you know this, but you continue to support the practices in places like NY where 1000s of votes were suppressed...but that’s always been the. DNC way

 

He criticized absentee balloting in Florida waaaaaay back in 2018.

And yes, he praises absentee/mail-in ballots in places where he needs absentee/mail-in ballots. He does not need those votes out of NJ, NV, or NJ because he knows those places are lost to him electorally.

 

he’s only praised absentee ballots..all of them... not the univerial mail in ballots the dems are pushing.

and the dems attacked even absentee ballots in FL...and tried to get them suppressed...sort of what Cuomo is being sued for now in NY...suppressi ng votes...although it was harder with absentee ballots and they were counted. Who knows if Cuomo will be successful in NY yet...and that election was months ago

 

you have no idea what you're talking about

 

of course i do.

are you not aware of what’s happening in NY and NJ?

 

Trump is not now and never has been in favor of universal carte blanche mail-in voting which is what the Dems want but disguise it as something else.

 

I've been following absentee balloting more since I got my unsolicited request for a ballot form in the mail early last week, first time ever.

Now I read the Scared Bois are suing some counties in Iowa for pre populating some information on the form.

SNIP
The lawsuit specifically relates to what kind of information can be included on absentee ballot request forms sent to active registered voters. State Republicans believe that only the election's date and that the ballot is for a general election should be completed on voters' behalf. The county auditors are being sued for sending out request forms that are already populated with all of the required information and only need to be signed and returned.
ENDSNIP

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-campaign-republican-groups-sue-192925592.html

I imagine, since Trump mentioned this in my state (Virginia) yesterday, there will be a similar suit here at some point.

I checked my application and much of the required data (Full Name, Address, Election Date and Type, County) are prefilled for my convenience. I LMAO that this is suddenly ILLEGAL in TrumpWorld.

Seems all I have to do is fill out my SSN, Sign, and Date the form. Great System! (although I'm still not doing it for other reasons)

Unbelievable! Fighting Democracy to the bitter end...

 

Here's a follow up on an article I just read in the Real News WaPo..... Seems there was a computer ****up on some of these Virginia mailings with return envelopes.... Bugs to work out for sure...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...4029ee-d764-11ea-930e-d88518c57dcc_story.html

My return envelope looks good because my city/state don't share a name

Still NaGa happen...

 

Funny enough about that Iowa lawsuit from the Trump campaign - They only filed it in the counties which lean left despite the fact that several right leaning counties also do the same thing.

 

And that, kind sir, is the reason for objections. There was not and is not enough time to convert States that had mostly a traditional vote in person (perhaps with for cause absentee voting) to a mostly vote by mail (especially if the ballots are sent out unsolicited) without running into all kinds of bugs between now and the election. Bugs that could delay results until past the unchangeable pre-existing deadlines or potentially render entire cities, regions, or even entire States, as invalid.

Nobody wants that, but the "vote by mail or die in 2020" crowd doesn't want to hear that reality.

 

This is just another example of how Democrats, and their willing accomplices in the media, are more than happy to mal-represent Trump's words and actions in any and every way they can.

 

All they -really- want is a reason to explain away a Biden loss in November.

 

...., and they have a million ways.....