Insurance Companies To Cover Corona Issues

Discussion in 'Coronavirus (COVID-19) News' started by Rugglestx, Mar 5, 2020.

PF does not allow misinformation. However, please note that posts could occasionally contain content in violation of our policies prior to our staff intervening. We urge you to seek reliable alternate sources to verify information you read in this forum.

  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,213
    Likes Received:
    33,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Healthcare in various forms are a Democratic platform, not just Sanders.
    His is just the most extreme

    trump was elected by a margin of less than 80,000 voters.
    The majority of the nation voted against him.

    The vast majority of abortions (66%) are less than 8 weeks into pregnancy.

    You already pay for homeless shelters and housing programs... They are inefficient and need revamping but they exist none the less and come out of each and every paycheck.

    Ah I did that in my teens and 20’s — usually hit close to 80 hours a week.
    Semi-retired on mostly passive income in my 30’s thanks to some luck.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if you lived in a nation where you didn’t have to work yourself to the bone to afford things that people in other nations share, as a community? Maybe spend some more time at home? Na, your way is definitely better.
     
    Last edited: Mar 5, 2020
  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2011
    Messages:
    42,213
    Likes Received:
    33,142
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Farmers for sure.
     
  3. tharock220

    tharock220 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2016
    Messages:
    2,822
    Likes Received:
    1,614
    Trophy Points:
    113
  4. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Still seems like the majority of Americans is not demanding a NHS :)

    So we are only killing 34% of the babies, yet here we are with a Corona death rate of 3% and people on the left are freaking out, imagine if they were babies with 10x the death rates how they would react...of course the babies can not vote so...

    I already pay enough for those things your right, stop trying to expand the programs.

    I am fine working to support myself, I prefer not to be beholden to a govt for my every need and have them dictate how and where I live. I will gladly work 6 days a week to not have that be my life.

    My way, i.e. the America way that built this country is the best way, you are correct.
     
  5. Spim

    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2016
    Messages:
    7,664
    Likes Received:
    6,183
    Trophy Points:
    113
    omg here we go with the 80,000 thing again.

    ps. the majority of the country voted against hillary.

    and laff at the last paragraph. km shocked hou didnt suggest people learn to play an instrument too. good lord.
     
    Rugglestx likes this.
  6. BaghdadBob

    BaghdadBob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Messages:
    3,126
    Likes Received:
    4,804
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I pay $1100. per month for worthless health insurance so that that waitress can get FREE HEALTHCARE, or very low cost care based on her income is she wants it, and NO ONE is forced to work when they have a communicable illness unless the the business owner wants to be sued into bankruptcy.

    Where do you come up with this crap? :roll: (That's a rhetorical question as I really don't care.)
     
    Rugglestx likes this.
  7. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,045
    Likes Received:
    7,575
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Great for the people who can pay. Not so great for those who can't.

    But then you don't care if people get health care or not. You may not have said that, but it's how you feel. It's more important that you pay a little less in taxes than other people be alive because they have access to health care they can't afford.

    Almost nobody wants to admit that is how they feel in those stark terms. Instead folks will temper it with convoluted nonsense about personal responsibility, voluntary charity, and other deflections, knowing full well that the things they claim to be the solutions are just cop-outs used to lie to themselves but mostly for lying to others about their true feelings so they don't have to appear to be a monster out loud.

    So how do you stand? Can you be honest?
     
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  8. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I already did. Your health care is not my responsibility. Mine is not yours. Covered that early in this thread, not trying to hide that at all.
    i do not want to pay for NHS. They do not work. See the one that collapsed a Euro govt last month, see the UK system in terminal. No thanks.
     
  9. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Apparently half the idiots that listen to the Tom Hartman show.
     
  10. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Because your policy might not cover it, and it cost money,

    No, that is not what premiums are for

    of course an insurance company isn't going to pay for someone they don't insure. I don't think you understand the concept of insurance.

    Should your home owners insurance pay when I have a problem at my house?
     
    Rugglestx likes this.
  11. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,166
    Likes Received:
    23,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh, I understand insurance very well. It is the OP who claimed that we don't need universal health care, because insurance companies are actually covering what they are contractually obligated to cover -- a virus test. That leaves out the uninsured, who often don't have the funds to get the testing done, so they are more likely to not get tested and further spread the virus. With universal healthcare, such things would not happen. You know the solution? Trump is going to get those tests of the uninsured covered through the emergency fund. it's still the tax payer who'll be on the hook.

    This discussion is moot anyway, because we are not even close to having enough test kits to test everyone who'd need it.
     
  12. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How do you know my insurance policy requires my company to cover it? How have you read my contract?

    You know, a lot of insurured people won't get tested either....I don't planning on it. so govt run healthcare won't solve the problem you are trying to suggest is happening.

    What we have here, is private companies donating, and giving.....
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2020
  13. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male


    The CDC (ie the govt) is picking up the bill for the uninsured. The insurance companies for the insured. Under a NHS the govt would pick it all up, no thanks.
     
  14. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I’ve no interest in getting tested either, even though my insurance company will pay for it. If i get sick I’ll deal with that.
     
    struth likes this.
  15. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  16. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,904
    Likes Received:
    11,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
  17. BaghdadBob

    BaghdadBob Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Messages:
    3,126
    Likes Received:
    4,804
    Trophy Points:
    113
    If you "understood" health insurance then you'd know that NO ONE who wants insurance is denied. Depending upon the state, the working poor either get a FREE obozocare policy thru a private insurer like in Florida, or they get into their state's expanded Medicaid program.
    There's NO SUCH THING AS UNAFFORDABLE PRIMARY CARE IN THE USA.
     
    Thedimon likes this.
  18. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yes. Companies and people in general tend to want to look good in the eyes of others.

    It is also smart business, to deliver what they are suppose to deliver to their customers.
     
  19. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,904
    Likes Received:
    11,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
    LOL, there are far more cases of those companies NOT delivering to their captive customers. They are simply playing to the high anxiety present with Covid 19. They are trying to impress and demonstrate how "necessary" they are to the public health.
     
  20. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Captive customers? They are not even close to that.

    If people don’t like their insurance, they can find a different company, nobody is holding them captive.

    You know who is a captive customer? People under a NHS who have zero choice in the matter.

    The entitlement mindset of the left on full display, again...
     
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2020
  21. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2015
    Messages:
    22,904
    Likes Received:
    11,858
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm not against having health insurance. Anyone that wants it should be able to buy it.

    But our system is designed poorly. It requires that the relationship between physician and patient be controlled by a third party with profit interests.

    That is about the most stupid system one could design.
     
    Quantum Nerd likes this.
  22. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 14, 2014
    Messages:
    18,166
    Likes Received:
    23,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not only that, but since insurance is managed through the employer, the DEAL is actually made between the insurance company and the employer. Guess who looks out for who? The deal reached will be best for the employer (saving money), not for the end customer, i.e. the employee.
     
    Eleuthera likes this.
  23. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Of course the insurer had the right to question the medical process. The amount of fraud in the system today is huge with controls. Imagine it without any.

    Why would a company not want to make profit? I would imagine without a profit motive there would be no insurance companies.
     
  24. Rugglestx

    Rugglestx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2018
    Messages:
    4,161
    Likes Received:
    3,145
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you do not like your employer insurance then do not opt in. I have to opt in or out yearly.

    Insurance is a benefit of working for a company, they have a vested interest in having a good policy to offer to obtain quality employees. That in turn drives the insurance companies to offer quality indurance to the employers. All that goes away in a NHS.
     
  25. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2018
    Messages:
    33,519
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Farmers sell their products for free?

    Odd...I just paid money for eggs, milk, and the steak yesterday at the store....
     

Share This Page