Iran accuses Israel of killing Iranian military commanders and others in airstrike on consulate in S

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    Israel is very clearly expanding their war in the ME - moving into Lebanon, Syria and West Bank, killing Iranians, etc.

    Hezbollah has more advanced weapons than does Hamas, as well as greater freedom of movement and clear supply channels.

    Plus, Israel has accomplished NONE of its goals in Gaza.
     
  2. truth and justice

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    How does that meet Israel's stated goal of destroying all Hamas? Israel never had any intention of stopping the process of removing all Palestinians using the excuse that all Palestinians are legitimate targets. Palestinians are seen as non-human by the Israeli government and many posters on this forum. The Israeli government and those posters are no better than the Nazis.
     
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    Israel's goal is to disable Hamas so hat they will never again attack Israel, killing families and beheading babies. You think Palestinians are seen as non-human by Israel? Link please. Nazis liked Palestinians.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And don't forget Genocide Joe -- he is a self declared Zionist too don't cha know :)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Palestinians tried that . .. didn't work .. the Evil Israeli's .. kept up with the killing and annexing territory .. these foreign occupiers . and the Warsaw ghetto .. rounding up them unclean Arabs into open air concentration camp ... Ethnic Cleansing ..at levels the Brown shirts would be proud.

    Maybe the IDF could stop bombing hospitals .. leveling them to the ground .. exterminating children and civilians .. war crimes and crimes against humanity ... and give up on this Ethnic Cleansing Zionist Charter .. "From the River to the Sea" .. these religious extremists .. worse than the Islamists .. want to cleanse the land .. Like the Amalek say "Bibi" -- From the river to the sea.

    You know anything about them Amalek JBG ? the cleansing ? tell us about the cleansing that you wanna see done .. how you want to get rid of those pesky dogs .. vermin .. ..
     
  6. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Nope.
     
  7. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Morale of story: don't start wars with people who can and will kick your ass. And don't run commando operations out of your damn embassy if you don't want it blown to hell.
     
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    You mean like Russia kicking the **** out of NATO proxy Bandera ukraine?

    Well it seems you would green light the flattening of the US Embassy in Kiev.


    You should go visit the people you support. My bet is that you'd change your turn and see the propaganda for what it is.
     
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    Biden funded the Russian war in the ukraine find something else to bitch about.
    Given the inaccuracy of Russian munitions thus far demonstrated I am quite surprised that there have not been multiple embassies hit. The Fascist in the Middle East are clearly Iran and their assorted proxies. They are currently getting what they deserve.
     
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    Groundhog Day that Iran will strike Israel?

    'IDF halts leave for combat troops, intel chief warns 'worst is yet to come'
    'IDF Military Intelligence Directorate head: Israel is facing "complex days" ahead amid increasing threats of strikes by Iran.'

    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-795306
     
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    Israel's not denying killing these commanders.
     
  13. Izzy

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    It's not like the majority of Israelis have confidence in their military leaders,or Natanyahu for that matter.

    'Amid fears of Iranian attack, IDF says no need to ‘buy generators, stock food, get cash’

    'With public on edge as Tehran vows retaliation for deadly Syria strike, stores note spike in purchases of transistor radios, generators, longer-than-usual supermarket queues'

    cont:
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/amid-...o-need-to-buy-generators-stock-food-get-cash/
     
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    Israel Warns Iran Of Massive Regional War If Directly Attacked
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    "take the current conflict to another level"

    Iran attacks Israel because they are bent on destroying the nation of Israel.
    Israel attacked the generals because the generals were attacking them.

    'Netanyahu informed his security cabinet Thursday that Israel's forces have already been engaged with Iran "both directly and via its proxies, and therefore Israel is operating against Iran and its proxies, both defensively and offensively."'

    A statement issued by the prime minister's office laid out: "We will know how to defend ourselves and will operate according to the basic principle of whoever is harming or planning to harm us — we will harm him."

    Brent Crude spikes over $90/barrel.
     
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    Israel Publishes Footage Of Unprecedented Drone Intercept From Iraq Over Its Territory
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    IDF: 'For the first time ever, an IDF Sa'ar 6-class corvette missile ship successfully intercepted a UAV that approached from the east.'

    Looks like it was an Iranian supplied missile.
     
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    Iran committed an act of war against the United States when they took our Embassy hostage.
    Iran committed an act of war against the US when blew they up the marine barracks in Beirut.
    Iran committed an act of war when it brought down the towers housing our troops during Gulf War I.
    Iran committed an act of war everytime their formed penetrators killed a US fighter in Iraq.

    US Could Launch Joint Retaliatory Strikes With Israel If It Is Attacked By Iran: Official
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    'Top general overseeing CENTCOM will travel to Israel to coordinate...'

    'a US official has told Al Jazeera that the Pentagon could intervene militarily if there is an Iranian attack launched against Israel.'

    the US source said, "We do not rule out launching joint retaliatory strikes with Israel if it is attacked by Iran or its agents."

    'The senior U.S. military commander in charge of the Middle East is expected to go to Israel Thursday to coordinate around a possible attack on Israel by Iran and its proxies, two Israeli officials said.'

    '...The commander of the U.S. military central command (CENTCOM) Gen. Erik Kurilla is expected to meet senior Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) officials and Israeli defense minister Yoav Gallant.'

    'Yesterday, Israeli officials threatened that Iranian nuclear sites could be targeted, in one of the biggest strike threats to date. The region is on edge awaiting an 'imminent' response by Iran following the April 1st deadly attack on Iran's embassy in Damascus. US intelligence has said it believes a revenge attack from Tehran is coming soon.'
     
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    Maybe Hamas could stop using hospitals as soil-topping for the terror tunnels? Maybe Hamas could have stopped fighting a hopeless war. Even Kaiser Wilhelm surrendered when the Great War became hopeless.
     
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    Yeah .. and maybe folks should stop being so gullible as to believe what comes out of the world famous Liars mouth but regardless .. even if one did get sucked in to the IDF spin .. you don't get to level an entire multi story apartment complex full of innocent civilians because some bad guy happens to wander through a tunnel underneath the building .. and not be guilty of war crimes ... its not how things work friend.

    Just because Israel uses human shields - military and militia personnel embedded within the population - does not justify the Oct 7 Hamas Terror attack .. taking of hostages ... U Understand ?
     
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    Interesting.

    Out of curiosity, if there is a tunnel underneath a building as in your hypothetical, how exactly would one know that only one bad guy was passing through?
     
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    Tunnel vision
     
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    Exactly .. !! ... hence why one should not believe the Israeli Lies .. and it would not matter if it were one or 10 passing through the tunnel .. still a war crime to level multi level apartment complex full of civilians .. .. and if you did know where they were .. why would you not wait until they moved passed the building .. you would not have so much concrete to go through to hit your target .

    IDF don't care about whether Hamas there or not .. the objective is Ethnic Cleansing .. and a dead Arab is a Dead Arab.. like Bibi Say .. "Amalek" from the River to the Sea
     
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    Exactly what? You and I are NOT in agreement even slightly.

    A tunnel could house hundreds of men and/or could be the primary supply route for carrying bombs throughout Gaza that are being launched for the purpose of killing Israeli civilians. Nobody is prescient enough to know what lies beneath a building where presumably yet another attack had just been launched. It can easily be argued that a tunnel is the key to all enemy power and ability to strike. Its not just about the death of one bad guy.

    You throw around war crime language and while I know there is wording you can find to try to make that claim, actually qualifying as such requires far more than just kind of sort of fitting a subjectively worded, impossible-to-enforce supposed international law.

    If a bomb/projectile is launched from an apartment building and that building is attacked as a result, the fault lies with the person that illegally hurled the bomb, not the military that responds in its defense.
     
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    Sorry dude :) but, leveling a multi story building full of civilians .. because there might be a bad guy in a tunnel underneath the building is a war crime.

    Look .. the Hamas terrorist attack on October 7 was not justified because there were a few bad guys around using human shields .. it was a war crime .. for which Hamas should be punished .. even though exercising right of self defense.

    OH .. and clearly you are not well versed in what a war crime is .. not at all.. your claim to the contrary demonstrably ridiculous.
     
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    Is rape, torture, and sexual assault, legitimate methods of military battle?
     
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    Sorry dude, it is YOU that concocted the silly "one guy underneath in a tunnel scenario", when the reality is that is not realistic. They would have no way of knowing if a guy were in a tunnel. The only way they would know is if a bomb was just hurled from that location. If you are talking about a tunnel they are targeting, it is absolutely worth destroying that apartment building if that is the means of transporting their illegal bombs. The existence of that tunnel would not be the product of a launch however, rather it would be the product of intelligence. They would warn the civilians, give them time to move, and then destroy the tunnel. A tunnel is a highly strategic asset which is clearly worthy of destroying. You cannot falsely attach one man to it and then act like it is an eye for an eye battle for a body count. It is about strategic assets and removing them, and a tunnel is undoubtedly a strategic asset.

    If you dont grasp this notion, think of Japan killing one enemy combatant and a dormitory of civilians while bombing Los Alamos where they built the nuclear bomb. The reason is not the one enemy combatant, it is the nuclear capability. The same thing applies to a tunnel albeit a far smaller impact. The justification is not the Hamas member that would be killed, it would be the ruining of Hamas's ability to transport bombs to be launched at Israel. The laws aimed at quantifying what is a just target are as subjective as it gets. While you can try to make the argument, PROVING it is extremely difficult. In truth, it is little more than a hollow accusation.
     
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