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I agree. War has no winners. How stupid of Hamas to start one.

 

Biden is deterring Iran from attacking Israel with the same 'skill' that he used to deter Russia from invading Ukraine, and losing the war in Afghanistan to the terrorists.

 

Definitely war crimes ... Crimes against humanity and IDF - Bibi, and Genocide Joe need to stop these crimes .. terrorism .. attacking Embassies .. targeting the others dignitaries. .. goes on and on .. Arming Al Qaeda with sophisticated military Technology .. our Proxy Brothers over the last 15 years .. did you not get the memo JBG ? ... ISIS is all good in the hood with us .. See that terror attack on the Corus Club in Moscow .. .. Its all good in the Hood for these gangsters.

But lest we not make light -- Irish Delegation to the UN had it right when they say "Hague too Good for Bibi" -- Genocide Joe should be put next in line.. for all the cries you mention and more.

 

Past history and hatred that should be buried in the past, but Iran and the Muslim radicals won't let that happen.

Young fellows like you need to stop listening to your bigoted left wing professors, who are always looking for victims to play their far left games, and think about the wonders of tolerance and reconciliation. The Palestinians could have had a home land many years ago, but the radial hate mongers in Iran keep the bombs, missiles and suicide bombers coming. Iran is the real "big Satan" in this mess.

 

.. who told you war has no winners friend --- and you agreed ?? - Silliest thing .. I thought the allied forces won in WW2 .. ? .. OH .. another .. I think USA won the war against Mexico .

Now Starting a war you can't win .. that may be stupid as you say .. Ukraine a prime example ... bad move to mess with the Bear.. and bad moves those who are supporting the battle against the Bear.

Hamas -- what can we say about that -- hard to call it much of a war .. more of an extermination / Ethnic Cleansing effort - not of Hamas but of the Palestinian women.. Children Babies and so forth .. punishing one group for the actions of another .. a big collective punishment war crime.f

This terrible atrocity war or no war -- may end up with Hamas as the winner. Let us keep in mind that Hamas is an Idea .. as much as it is anything else .. but, if the Palestinians were to progress to having their own State .. and of course Israel will be respected to recognize that state .. just like poor Israel wanted to be recognized for so long.. this would be a win for Hamas.

So let us not count Hamas out so easily give a big more credit where due .. and get that perspective adjusted "war has no winners" .. a funny one mate

 

Thought Israel's Goal was a 2 State Solution was it not ?! I think we have come closer to accomplishing that goal

 

Perhaps you should stop listening to QAnon and Newsmax telling you what to think about 'bigoted left wing professors' and try thinking for yourself. While I do appreciate being called a young fellow, I haven't been to college in over 40 years. And there are Palestinians still alive today that had their family members slaughtered and lands stolen by Israeli soldiers and settlers so they likely have a difficult time burying that in the past, as I'm sure you would if it happened to you or your parents, uncles, etc. I sincerely doubt if any of that happened to you that you would be blaming professors or other countries.

 

I do think for myself, and you have a lot of nerve making that comment.

Which makes more sense, keeping the hate that has lasted for a thousand years, and try a new path that seeks reconciliation? Saudi Arabia was headed in that direction before Iran used their proxy forces to start the current war.

Keep up the hating. Keep on listening to the left which wants to stir trouble and demonstrations constantly and see where it gets you.

Maybe stirring up trouble is what you want. Eddie Haskell was a two faced jerk on Leave It Beaver. He was one of those kids who tried to look like a golden boy to the adults while acting like a snake in the grass among the kids. It's hardly someone I would view as a role model.

 

If you think there were winners in those wars then you don't understand what tragedy means. Political gain, perhaps, but no winner. Also, I doubt you have fought in one. Hamas just needs to be exterminated. Just another tragedy.

 

A two state solution has always been Israel's preference. However the palestinians reject it. They want a one state solution that is Israel under their control.

 

It has never been Israel's goal to have a two state solution.

The Likud party charter includes the rights of Israel from the river to the sea.

When President Bush pushed his "roadmap for peace", designed to set borders, Israel demanded to continue building new settlements in West Bank during the negotiations.

That was a crystal clear statement of what Israel thought of negotiations and borders.

 

Just like you have a lot of nerve making the comment to me by saying "Young fellows like you need to stop listening to your bigoted left wing professors?" Dish it out but not take it, eh?

You may have some historical knowledge on US presidential elections and 50s sitcoms but that seems to be your limit. That hate hasn't been there thousands of years. Nonsense. That part of the world was quite peaceful until the British started kicking out their Jewish population and helped them settle in the weakest part of the world. Try reading up on things like the Balfour Declaration and how the state of Israel was created and how it still impacts the lives of those that were living then and still living today. You're hatred of anyone different from your way of thinking or beliefs is clearly showing.

 

This is absolute BS. The Likud party of Netanyahu has LONG stated that Israel's objective is to own from the river to the sea.

As I pointed out in the previous post, Israel has spit in the FACE of those working for negotiated borders between Israel and West Bank.

Israel's policy has pretty clearly been a stalling tactic while they bulldoze the homes of Palestinians.

Now, we have people complaining that Gaza hasn't negotiated!!! But, THEY are the ones that have offered a peaceful resolution, and Israel is the one who absolutely refuses negotiations as they carry out their decades of war on Gaza.

When the US proposed their port for delivering aid to Gaza, Netanyahu commented internally that it would be helpful in shipping Gaza's people away from Gaza.

 

Israel has shown absolutely NO interest in reconciliation, spitting in the face of attempts at negotiation.

The Likud party charter states Israel's supremacy from the river to the sea, and their acts are fully in line with that charter.

Do you think the Israeli use of genocide will EVER be forgotten? This war is doing great damage to Israel in their international relations and is unifying so much of the world against what Israel is doing. You talk about Iran. But, it is the USA that is keeping this going with billions upon billions of weaponry that Israel claims is absolutely required.

I'm sure Iran is helping those defending Gaza. But, the weapons being used are home built, much from unexploded munitions, and the design of the weapon used to blow up tanks is of unique Palestinian design and construction. They have release vids of portions of their munitions factories. Their tactics are purely theirs. The tunnels used have been built over significant time, large enough to drive cars through and designed to be impervious to gas and water attacks.

So far, Israel has not achieved ANY of the goals they had when moving their military into Gaza and beginning the bombing and starving of the civilian population, destruction of hospitals and murder of doctors and nurses.

 

So the October 7 murders were justified, and it’s okay for Hamas to hold the hostages for the foreseeable future, according to you. You entitled to your opinion. I hope you are not a college professor or any other kind of educator.

 

Since I am so stupid and misinformed, you don’t put me on “ignore?” Go ahead. I won’t miss you after that tirade

 

LOL you said you were going to ignore me month ago. You're the one that continues to initiate and stalk me. You know you love me sweetheart...

 

A terrorist event DOES NOT justify genocide.

It never has.

Hamas has given ceasefire plans that include the return of all remaining hostages. "Remaining" as some have been returned and some have been killed by the IDF - including those the IDF shot in the face on sight.

 

It's at least somewhat important to oppose the uninformed nonsense that gets spewed about this war - a war that has been ongoing for decades.

Do you even know why Gaza is fighting?

 

Yes. They want the state of Israel GONE, “from the river to the sea.”

 

Hamas is an Iranian proxy. Gaza planned to enslave Jews after conquering Israel:


Say, Did You Hear About Hamas' Plan to Enslave the Jews?

It's not working out as they planned.

 

Absolutely! When their land was stolen to form Israel, without even consulting those living there, they strongly objected as would any people anywhere in the world.

But, Palestine has taken strong actions toward peace over the last few decades.

Using those feelings of hate that arose during their dispossession as an excuse for genocide is a cheap political charade.

Genocide is the very bottom of the scum of moral degredation.

And, it's followed by Israel slaughtering the children and grandchildren of political leadership of their opposition.

What the HELL happened to Israel? Once upon a time, they had a moral government.

 

Sorry dude. There is no such plan.

President Abbas has been working for a negotiated peace with Israel - a two state solution.

In fact, he has cooperated with the IDF to reduce violence.

In Gaza, people recognize that the Abbas efforts for negotiated settlement are spit on.

And, Israel has waged war on them for decades - stating that they WILL steal the entire land of Gaza after removing/killing ALL those living there.

This isn't enslavement - this is genocide.

 

Where would you suggest that the State of Israel could exist after the Holocaust? Stalin was gobbling up Eastern Europe. We could have carved out a spot between France and West Germany, I suppose. The Bible suggested where Israel is now. The Arabic states had lots of land. The Palestinians could have been given space then, it didn’t happen. What’s your post World War II solution?

 

Sarcasm my friend The Zionist Goal is Ethnic Cleansing of the land .. not giving some up to the Amalek..