Iran mocks WWII Holocaust, prepares another

Which only underlines its hypocrisy, given what happens in practice.

 

In practice Israel has equal rights for all of its citizens even Arab Muslims whose living standards and civil liberties are unparalleled anywhere in the Arab world.

 

non-Jews in Israel have many more rights than non-Aryans had in Nazi Germany.

 

Yeah, sure - if we ignore the ones that live in the occupied territories, which are treated worse than in Nazi OTs, Arabs in Israel have almost the same rights as Jews.

Who do you think this is fooling? Like I said another poster, there was never any debunking ever presented to you about your falsehoods? Why is it necessary to go throught all that again?

That's how these topics reach 70 pages.

 

That's OK. Wiki is what it is. Many respond to anything German as "NeoNazi". Their name is taken from the Ramstein Air Base tragedy that
brutally burned to death many of their countrymen. Till Lindemann is a licensed pyrotechnician. Fire is often used in a big way
in their performances.

Rammstein are masters of enigmatic projection.

This is a good video for a political forum and is one of my favorites --

Ich Will (I will) -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOnSh3QlpbQ


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Like the "Holocaust Story" the Matrix is a prison for your mind to blind you from the truth. "The Holocaust Story" is an altered understanding
of the past that controls the present and maybe the future.

Listen closely --

Let me tell you why you are here.
You are here because you know something.
What you know you can't explain.
But you feel it.
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is. But it's there.
Like a splinter in your mind. Driving you mad.
It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
Do you know what I'm talking about ?
"The matrix ?"
Do you want to know what it is ?
"Yes"
The matrix is everywhere. It is all around us.
Even now in this very room.
You can see it when you look out your window.
Or when you turn on your television.
You can feel it when you go to work. When you go to church. When you pay your taxes.
It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
"What truth ?"
That you are a slave Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage.
Born into a prison that you cannot smell or taste or touch.
A prison for your mind.

I highly recommend watching the movie the Matrix as an exercise in understanding mind control.

 

FRENETIC FRAUDS "FIX" FAKE HISTORY

Wow, you're just as nasty, sarcastic & insulting as the usual gaggle of Hate-Filled & hysterical Holocaustians who sully these pages until they eventually get banned.

I'll bet your swarm of Hasbara Trolls who infect Wikipedia[1] has "fixed" whatever overblown claim perpetrated by America's most ghoulish & grisly, fraudulent [2], [3] Theme Park.


The fact that the vast majority of Work / Internment Camp fatalities resulted from typhus & other disease / natural causes is supported by the far more reputable, impartial Red Cross, a NON-profit organization NOT known for its frauds & Religious / Racially Selective Outrage.

Perhaps one of the era's most egregious "Holocausts" is the one perpetrated by one of WW 2's more infamous, War Criminals, Eisenhower [5]

Meanwhile, the Germans allowed the Red Cross free access to the Camps & The R.C. reported that Allied bombing of civilian areas, medical facilities & supply lines was responsible for the shortages in medicine, food & other life sustaining supplies.



Among the expectations of those who run this Forum is: Civility............ learn some or leave.





[1] “Manipulating Wikipedia Content: Israeli Program to Train Editors to Ensure that “What is Written” is “Zionist in Nature”
http://www.globalresearch.ca/manipu...-what-is-written-is-zionist-in-nature/5321059


[2] “A Holocaust Fraud Exposed, a Peccadillo Papered Over”
http://observer.com/2001/04/a-holocaust-fraud-exposed-a-peccadillo-papered-over/

EXCERPT “Two weeks later came the sucker punch. Swiss novelist Daniel Ganzfried, himself a son of a survivor, released an article in a Swiss journal calling Binjamin Wilkomirski a man who “knows Auschwitz and Majdanek only as a tourist,” his book a “coldly planned swindle.”
60 Minutes followed up with corroborating evidence a few months later–a particular embarrassment to the American Holocaust Museum, which had given the book and its author an especially warm welcome. “CONTINUED


[3] “Denying Holocaust Forgeries, Hoaxes, and Fabrications”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/05/30/denying-holocaust-forgeries-hoaxes-and-fabrications/

EXCERPT "Wilkomirski found himself finding (fighting?) off interview requests from television, newspaper and magazine editors, and for the next three years rose to become one of the most sought-after and well-loved survivors of Hitler’s astrocities. He was even sent on a lecture tour of America by the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.”[4]


The late Christopher Hitchens, who found out late in life that he was Jewish, said, “Is there any more contemptible poseur and windbag than Elie Wiesel? I suppose there may be. But not, surely, a poseur and windbag who receives (and takes as his due) such grotesque deference on moral questions.”[23](*) Wiesel used to work for the newspaper Zion in Kampf, a propaganda machine for a terrorist group named the Irgun.[24]

Wiesel, like Simon Wiesenthal, turned out to be a pathological liar who cooked up his story as he went along.[25] Wiesel, like Wiesenthal and in many cases Deborah Lipstadt and Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, has the tendency to force his subjective fantasy into historical and objective reality as opposed to letting historical reality undergird his weltanschauung."

[4] Melissa Katsoulis, Literary Hoax: An Eye-Opening History of Famous Frauds (New York: Skyhorse Publishing, Inc., 2009),


.CONTINUED


[5] “Eisenhower’s Holocaust: His Slaughter Of 1.7 Million(*)Germans!”
https://socioecohistory.wordpress.c...locaust-his-slaughter-of-1-7-million-germans/

EXCERPT " (*)Eisenhower, in his personal letters, did not merely hate the Nazi Regime, and the few who imposed its will down from the top, but that HE HATED THE GERMAN PEOPLE AS A RACE. It was his personal intent to destroy as many of them as he could, and one way was to wipe out as many prisoners of war as possible.


–
Of course, that was illegal under International law, so he issued an order on March 10, 1945 and verified by his initials on a cable of that date, that German Prisoners of War be predesignated as “Disarmed Enemy Forces” called in these reports as DEF. He ordered that these Germans did not fall under the Geneva Rules, and were not to be fed or given any water or medical attention.

The Swiss Red Cross was not to inspect the camps, for under the DEF classification, they had no such authority or jurisdiction.
" CONTINUED

QUOTE: "“Under no circumstances may food supplies be assembled among the local inhabitants in order to deliver them to prisoners of war. Those who violate this command and nevertheless try to circumvent this blockade to allow something to come to the prisoners place themselves in danger of being shot....”

Gen. Eisenhower 1945"

 

I did. Apparently the words of the Nazi perpetrators themselves claiming to have killed 90,000 people with the use of gaswagens is too difficult for you to actually grasp,.

Its not my ignorance that is in question, its your entrenched ignorance on this subject that is at issue.
When confronted with indisputable documentary evidence it just bounces off your forehead. I'd say that is a rather serious problem you should get looked at.

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Where exactly were the American forces on Nov. 22, 1944? Bet they weren't in Poland.

 

NOBODY REPEAT NOBODY CLAIMS 6 MILLION PEOPLE WERE KILLED BY GASSING.
But of course that is the position that holocausts deniers attempt to deny, claiming a completely BOGUS "orthodox" story. Nothing like setting up a false premise to begin with and then claiming the false premise to be false.

And Eisen and his tiny little gang are entitled to their own opinion, but sure as hell not entitled to their own facts.
But then again holocaust deniers seem to have a great deal of difficulty dealing with actual facts.




BTW the actual historical narrative is being supported by the advances in forensic sciences much to the chagrin of such noteable denialist "scientists" as Leutcher, Graf, Krege, Rudolph, not to mention people such as yourselves who actually believe their twaddle.


From my perspective, that kind of underhanded sophistry is the cornerstone of denialism.

 

Accepting admissions after torture is stupid. I could have you in a room for 5 minutes and you would admit to gassing 80,000,000 Jews to death, masterminding 9/11, shooting JFK, and anything else folks wanted to hear. And the Red Cross was there. They found nothing that you speak of... ZERO... ZILCH... NADA!

And IF YOU HAD INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE, I AM SURE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN POSTED BY NOW LOL.

All we know from this monstrous thread is that both the Auschwitz story and the Treblinka story do not hold up under any real scrutiny and that all the exterminationists have to support there position is what they can find on known propaganda sites.

Enjoy your delusion.

 

Your response is exactly what I was talking about. Bounced right off the ol' noggin.

Yes there is indisputable evidence unless of course one buys into the idiocy of some claiming that all of the evidence was forged and that all of the confessions were coerced.

Eichmann wasn't coerced, in fact he was rather proud of his accomplishments. But of course according to denialists his televised trial was stage managed and he was given a script.

But keep up your laughable squirming in the face of the truth, offering up tidbits of nonsense while accepting Nazi propaganda as gospel. As for delusions it appears you are rather well acquainted with same.

 

If there was indisputable evidence it certainly would have been known and posted by now.

Serious questions:

Many questions remain open. . . . All in all, how many bodies were cremated in Auschwitz? How many died there all told? What was the national, religious, and ethnic breakdown in this commonwealth of victims? How many of them were condemned to die a “natural” death and how many were deliberately slaughtered. . . ? We have simply no answers to these questions at this time. (pg. 366)

From 1942 to 1945, certainly at Auschwitz, but probably overall, more Jews were killed by so-called “natural” causes than by “unnatural” ones. Sources for the study of the gas chambers are at once rare and unreliable. (pg. 365)

--Jewish historian at Princeton University, Professor Arno J. Mayer, lost close family in the Holocaust, wrote the above in his book, Why Did Not the Heavens Darken?

Should he be sent to jail? And is he an anti-Semitic self-hating Jew?

 

My contribution for today is a description of a book written with the goal of giving context
to atrocity propaganda like "The Holocaust Story". Can't recommend it enough.

The internet can show you where the gold can be got. But the gold itself is in the books.


"Tell the Truth & Shame the Devil" by Gerard Menuhin

His dedication: For Germany. For Germans who still want to be German. For Humanity



Have you ever asked yourself why the world won't come to rest? Why your parents, grandparents or great-grandparents had to die in wars that never should have occurred in the first place? This book holds the answer . . .

Behind the scenes, events are controlled by a coterie of ethnic puppetmasters who work their marionettes in high places out of public view. How did this world get to the dark place it is today? Who could have stopped it and what can we do today?

The book consists of three sections. The first section concerns Adolf Hitler, and the real causes leading up to the outbreak of WWII.

The second section enlarges on the activities of the real culprits, provides a historical overview of their progress, their nature, their power over finance and the media, and the methods by which they achieved it.

The third section concerns the First and Second World Wars (what the author refers to as "the Second Thirty Years War"), their conception, funding and inescapable continuity; current laws against freedom of expression, and the evolution of the Orwellian state; the importance of U.S. support for the Soviet Union throughout the Cold War, and Communism's significance in the plan; the true origins of the enemy; Palestine's occupation and its fate as an example of our common fate; plus much more.

The text is interspersed with "Memos from Today," that emphasize its relevance by citing current events.

Hundreds of quotes are included from a wide range of authoritative sources, original and translated. The last pages of this manuscript comprise conclusions and predictions.

The author is the son of the great American-born violinist Yehudi Menuhin, who, though from a long line of rabbinical ancestors, fiercely criticized the foreign policy of the state of Israel and its repression of the Palestinians in the Holy Land.

(from the Amazon flysheet)

 

You should actually read the book by Arno. His contention is that despite the horrific "Judeocide", the Nazis did not have a master plan to eliminate all the jews but stemmed from the Nazi's desire to eliminate the bolshevik jews. His comment about the gas chambers has been taken out of context completely, as is typical of denialists.

OTOH, your "legitimate questions" are somewhat misleading. While total exact numbers of who, how and how many is impossible to ascertain, there is no doubt about the METHODS used. By playing "fun with numbers", it seems you and yours are claiming that this uncertainty is somehow evidence that the Nazi's didn't murder millions.

I guess the Sonderkommando shooting hundreds of thousands of russian jewish peasants was a fantasy, except for the rather extensive documented evidence including numerous film evidence of the executions, not to mention the official nazi documentation.

Might want to review the massive amount of documentary evidence from Bad Arolsen. But then again that would mean actually doing honest research from reliable sources instead of lapping up the crap from IHR and their scumbag ilk.

 

And this is where most intelligent researchers agree, yet it is illegal in so-called free countries to point this out. And be real, no evidence has been presented to support the idea that a plan existed to exterminate Jews. That was postwar propaganda and shown for the bullcrap that it is in this one simple meme that you keep ignoring:

How so? You have this habit of stating things that you never back up with evidence.

 

Would I be guessing right, if I added the religious matrix to it? Seems to me, all these various religious beliefs are nothing more than misleading ideologies, one fighting against the other for dominance.

 

For many, the Holocaust atrocity propaganda story has been transformed into a religion. That is, it has moved from the sphere of history, reason, and rational consideration and meaning into the blind faith, intolerance of viewpoint, and the harsh enforcement of a cult. For exactly the purpose you mentioned. Control. To erect a wall of historical distortion in order to suppress criticism of the people that installed this propaganda. In this case, some bad Jewish actors and their myrmidons in the seats of powerful governments.

This cult can affect those that have no understanding of it's true purpose. They can be Jews, Christians, anyone. And they can range from non-activists to zealots that will imprison and harm people that "deny" or resist submission to it.


You can see from this video that the number 6,000,000 and the term "holocaust" was installed into this atrocity propaganda schema when Hitler was still involved with painting, long before his rise politically.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk


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This is excellent:

[video=youtube;E0_BZphQ7Qo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0_BZphQ7Qo[/video]

 

I am no fan of video links, but I must say the facts presented in this one (actual past newspapers) are quite disturbing. I wouldn't have believe them a mere 30mm ago, thinking they were the ravings of a mad, hating person. Already this video is banned in all French territories and dependancies - it is a matter of time before it gets banned in the UK and the dominions as well; some people must be working hard on it as we speak.

That is some damn evidence, right there, one way or another. There is definitely something fishy in the Holocaust as we are taught it, and we are being deliberately lied to and that gets me quite riled about it.

And then people wonder where does Jew hatred comes from... Now this isn't the little guy from Brooklynn who happens to be Jewish: It is the movers and shakers, the one who have access to places you and I don't - I want to be real clear about it. Well it's time these little guys start to denounce, strongly, the lies a part of their elite are enforcing on the world in their names - because they're the only ones who can without being taxed as antisemites, a social death sentence in the Occident - and stop the circle of hatred once and for all.

 

Here is a very informative documentary called "What Holocaust?", by a nice Jewish boy called David Cole, where he examines the facts of what we have been told is true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmYFpiCo1-g

He is by his own admission a reformist historian & for his pains he had a death contract placed upon his life by the Jewish defense league. Not sure why some people would want to murder someone that examines the facts and asks questions.



The point is the Holocaust was a war time propoganda tool that has now become so-called "historical fact".

I've heard many times the quote that the winners write the history & in the case of the Holocaust that is so true.

But remember that shortly after the war, it was claimed that Dachau & Bergen-Belsen were concentration camps that had gas chambers, now it is accepted that this claim was untrue, it was also claimed shortly after the war that the National Socialists made soap from the bodies of Jews, again this is now acepted as untrue, so too the claims of lamp shades made from the skin of murdered Jews. All these war time propoganda claims are now accepted as untrue, even by the most fervent holocaust belivers.

Eventually the Auschwitz claims of gas chambers will eventually be accepted as untrue & shown that they are a post war reconstruction built by the Communists to make claims against the National socialists. Although in some European Counties it will be hard, as it is now against the law to question the holocaust & you can the put in prison for doing so.

The initial claim that four million of the six million Jews were gassed at Auschwitz has now been revised down to just over one million
So that beggs the question of holocaust mathematics... three millions less Jews gasses at Auschwitz... Yet the six million claim remains! 6-3=6 acording to the Holocaust peddlers.

There is simply no evidence of mass gassing of Jews or any other class of human beings in Auschwitz. Proove me wrong if you can!

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to belive it." Joseph Goebbels

I know the reaction of some will be to shout that I'm a jew hating anti-semite because of my investigations into the facts of the so called Holocaust, but I'll take that on the chin & continue to ask for proof that it ever took place.

Watch the video link and ask yourself where is the evidence?

The Holocaust was a Soviet lie to discredit the national socialists, post war to cover their own crimes & a lie perpretrated by many that see an advantage to demonise the German people & claim we faught the "good war".

 

British decrypts from WWII show that :

"The return from Auschwitz, the largest of the camps with 20,000 prisoners, mentioned illness as the main cause of death, but included references to shootings and hangings. There were no references in the decrypts to gassings."

"The year 1942 is a turning-point in our story, when Exterminist historians believe that the terrible mass gassing of Jews began, at Auschwitz. The ‘machinery of mass murder’ to use Jean-Claude Pressac’s phrase, got going! As Dr Terry explained, ‘the machinery of the death camps was in place and the policy of “selection” on the ramps at Auschwitz was instituted from July 17, 1942[6].’ August was the month when the biggest and worst typhus epidemic hit the camps. That shock reverberated though Auschwitz in particular as the long-extinct disease of typhus, a bacillus carried by body lice, returned to haunt the labour-camps. A Polish resistance movement might have introduced it to the German military:[7] civilians entering the camp had brought it, not the inmates deported there.[8] New protocols called ‘special treatment’ (‘Sonderbehandlung&#8217 were swiftly developed and implemented,[9] for all camp members, that involved routines of hair shaving, cleansing and delousing of clothing, bedding and living quarters.[10] Two uttely different interpretations of that summer, one Exterminist and the other Revisionist, stand before us when reading the following decrypts.

Here are inmate figures[11] from the decrypts, for Jews, Poles and Russians, at quarter-year intervals:


Total Jews Poles Russians
January 1942 9884 191 9186 2095
April 10242 1296 8475 354
July 16369 [12] 6241 7676 153
October 16996 7500 6470 -
January '43 28350 11332 12646 -


There were more Poles than Jews in the camp: Jews comprised 39% of the inmates on average, Poles 65% and Russians a mere 3%. (The two categories of Poles and Jews are overlapping, maybe why the ‘totals’ here given don’t add up.) "

http://www.whale.to/c/daily_life_in_auschwitz.html

More evidence that the Jewish holocaust did not happen! - proof me wrong & I'll accept legitimate evidence - but you can't beacause the gassing of millions of people of Jewish faith did not happen!

 

"INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE', 'INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE', 'INDISPUTABLE EVIDENCE,'.........WHERE?"

You keep repeating the same claims of having tomes of "indisputable evidence....." just as the "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", "shrunken heads" were all claimed to be "indisputable evidence....." immediately after the advent of the World's biggest Extortion Racket but the extent of your "indisputable evidence" is telling others to go read another tiresome & transparently fraudulent Holocaustian tome even after these same "Best Selling" books are exposed as frauds after the "holocaust survivor / author" has gone on to fame, International awards & fortune.


For Example:

“HOLOCAUST PROFITEERS”
http://internationalresearchcenter....s-issues-war-of-cultures/holocaust-profiteers
EXCERPTS “ Mr. Kosinski wrote "The Painted Bird," a harrowing novel about his Jewish boy's childhood in Nazi occupied Poland the book was introduced to the American public as an autobiography. In reality it was not his childhood, as it turned out......."

{AND}

The reviewed book, "Fragments" was written by Benjamin Wilkomirski who was an imposter. He claimed to be a Jewish "Holocaust survivor" when, in fact, he was not. The Wall Street Journal reviewer called the book a "coldly planned fraud" or a work of "a deranged man who actually believes the myths he has constructed for himself."
CONTINUED


What is your explanation for the following 2 morsels of "Irrefutable Evidence" submitted just on this same page by other Posters?


POST WITH AUSCHWITZ PHOTOS OF POOL, CURRENCY OTHER FACILITIES:
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=456911&page=54&p=1066268180#post1066268180

AND:

CONTENT: REPEATED N.Y. TIMES REPORTS OF “6 MILLION JEWS”
“SIX MILLION JEWS 1915-1938 HD”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk



I suspect your response will be typical of Holocaustian Reality Deniers & something like an angry:

"I won't waste my time watching 'Jew Hating' propaganda............go read this (soon to be proven fraudulent) book!"

 

While taking a break I came upon the IHR's summary ot the Nuremberg Trials. In part two one can read about the fraud and torture that was going on in a supposedly International Court of Law:

Allied prosecutors used torture to help prove their case.
Read here:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Weberb.html


A double standard

In conducting the Nuremberg trials, the Allied governments themselves violated international law. For one thing, their treatment of the German defendants and the military prisoners who testified violated articles 56, 58 and others of the Geneva convention of July 1929.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Webera.html

In very recent memory...
Iraq and the hanging of Saddam Hussein comes to mind.
The brutal torturing of Iraqi "Combatants"!!
The cooked-up charges against Syria's leader Assad and the brutal murder of Libya's leader Qaddafi!!

Pfui! Pfui, America!

 

The Jew that denies the Holocaust Story will not be labeled "anti-semite" by the enforcers. They will label him a "self-hating Jew".
They want to maintain the tie of this myth to Jewish identity for their purposes. So it's a matter of semantics you could say.

I understand your surprise of what is in that video. It's a truth bomb for sure. One of many on this subject. The heavy lifting has already
been done. It's just a matter of a person going to where the enforcers tell one not to go. The enforcers have smeared the names of all
the researchers and revisionist historians that debunk this hoax with the name of "holocaust denier". This contains the same
"sentence" you mention for anti-semite. A person that is still under the spell of the Holocaust Story as unassailable truth will
instinctively avoid something or someone with that label. I did it myself for years.

But then something happens. You do something like play that video above, or read some piece. Suddenly you are confronted with a
dilemma. A "tell" from what you know is reality but cannot be reconciled with this holocaust story. Boom. A little Jiu Jitsu. A little
combat training. Some study. And the ideas that obfuscated a true understanding of history and the present are brought
down. At first you can dodge the bullets of these ideas. Then you find that you can jump tall buildings in a single bound.
Then you can fly in the clouds of a clear perception of history that was hidden by this propped up hoax-myth-religion that
was inserted in your mind. The path of discovery and reclamation of the turf of your own mind is not without a fight.

Play videos in order -- And remember. These are but illustrations of the combat of ideas, truth vs false ones.
Of course the "Agents" are the enforcers and the bullets and blows are their ideas.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PVeLqWnaXk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggFKLxAQBbc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYwdzYC3uUc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCzgRWWmVyQ

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