Iraq Still A Big Mess

I am and so is the hateful document called the Hamas Covenant. It could be changed tomorrow with a simply memo but, as we all know, it has not been hence, it is the Covenant of Hamas.

Are you for real that you think they don't believe this stuff even though it is their official policy and, their leaders espouse it's precepts? I showed you their words yet you refuse to even debate them. You say they taken were out of context so I showed the entire articles and still you refuse to acknowledge thi,s simply stating over and over that it is not relevant.

So, when is this non relevant document going to be placed in the basement and replaced with something relevant Trout? When are the precepts of it going to be changed in speeches and policy? When is the Jihad going to end? When is the claim of the entire Land of Palestine going to be publicly stated in speeches and policy to just be whatever they can negotiate after recognizing the right of Israel to live in peace?

Just wondering.

 

Oh, not the outdated and irrelevant Hamas Charter that is nothing more than a propaganda weapon....mod edit>>>flame bait/PA

 

The Hamas Charter is irrelevant in the sense that it does not determine Hamas policy. Hamas policy is actually guided by their election manifesto. Those are the facts. Now perhaps we can turn to the subject of this thread. Thanks.

 

You are not a member of Hamas unless you adhere to the Charter dear.

 

the hamas charter is no longer relevant in the sense that it does not determine hamas policy.

 

I see. In order to be and remain to be a member of Hamas you have to adhere to it's Charter but, in order to fool useful idiots from the west you tell them you actually adhere to a political doctrine that goes against the Charter and, all your actions and words are those taken directly from the Charter anyhow so in reality, nothing is changed. You don't even have to renounce the Charter!

How sweet for them!

 

Anything is possible in Drew's world, apparently.

 

Anything except for Trout to have a viable argument with proof and facts it seems.

Best return to the Hamasbara echo chamber for further instructions Trout, your personal attacks just don't seem to stand up to cutting edge logic and facts.

 

Logic according to Drew....LOL.

 

And backed up by facts, quotes, analysis, videos and links. ...LOL

 

As backed up by strawmen irrelevances, cherry-picked selective quotes, MEMRI "translations" and rhetoric.

 

Cherry picked? You mean the entire transcript of his return to Gaza or his speeches with complete before and after paragraphs quoted to keep it in context? Why not?

Oh I see, I was supposed to quote his interviews with the UN reps and such, the ones where he knows if he reveals the true nature of Hamas they will lose all support.

 

Your bigotry knows no bounds!

Your Nazi degenerates destroy everything in and near the Zionist state ..... its the Actions of those degenerate which you make some slimy attempt to hide behind anti semitism!

Its your inhuman treatment of men women and children, your murder of those afore mentioned and stealing there body parts, the genocide of those afore mentioned in your Nazi ghetto called Gaza, It the use of depleted uranium on those that live in your ghetto.... thats degenerate behavior not Anti semitism, and please stop considering your self jewish when even they the Jews detest you and your likes.

Highlander

 

Oh ya? Yo' mama wears army boots. How you like them apples huh?

Next.

 

I expect no better, but please do try to reach up.... you will eventually get into the gutter.

Highlander

 

Merely responding in kind to a baseless rant. When the reberverations of the echo chamber cease, please join the discussion.

 

Deary me...

Anyway.

Iraq Still A Big Mess

True or false?

If so, the main cause of this has been..?

 

The Hamas Charter.

 

Sectarian violence Jack. Shia against Sunni.

 

Nope, illegal US-led invasion and occupation (ie state terrorism).

 

Those three words check mate ANY situ.

It is as good as setting phasers to stun.

 

I hope somebody beams him up.

 

Indeed. But...and I actually think this has never been more key, in a world where words are powerful. Perhaps we need to stop calling this cabal of ghouls US or Western, per se, as this always implies the society give tacit approval, or overt approval, and that is not always(or even usually) true.

On the contrary, there are many Americans and British on here that would very happily divorce themselves entirely from the deeds of those that have wormed their way into high office, or on the edges of it. We are not only not happy at their actions, we are not happy these things are done in our name, and we are no longer happy that it is perpetual, esp when our nations are going to hell in a handcart, at home.

These ghouls may have an American, British, Israeli(?),Russian accent, it actually doesn't matter what accent they may have, or what passport they may hold, since nothing they do is good for you, and everything they do is good for them.

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I would kiss a Jew on the head.

 

So the UNSC never authorized member states to take whatever action was necessary to get Iraq to comply with ceasefire conditions. Interesting revisionism as the authorization is contained in UNSC Res 1441. And also you deny there was a Status of Forces Agreement between Iraq and the UN?

Interesting. No wonder you use definitions from 1984 to make arguments. You seem to be a few steps behind the times.

 

No Jack, they only work when the counter argument is that the Palestinian governments wish peace as it is solid proof they do not.

I doubt any of them are that hard up Jack.