Is America a Christian Nation? Should America Be a Christian Nation?

Show us this perfect people and nation to which you compare and condemn America. It doesn't exist. One should look to God in all things.

 

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Looking to god has you making excuses for all sorts of terrible things. Do you have faith or a confirmation bias?

“You shall know them by their fruits”

 

I have no idea what point you are making. Your quote is in regards to false prophets, as opposed to true ones, rather than to say there is no God. God is real, he lives. Doing evil in Gods name is no reflection on God but on those who do it. It's like holding up the Bible as Gods truth to validate ones own self serving interpretation of the content, which is classic bait and switch or self glorification.

That said, I asked you to show me your perfect people and nation to which you pretend to hold America in comparison for the purpose of condemning America, as if our destruction rather than our improvement were your intent. But you can't because there is no such people or nation.

 

No, the question isn't whether there is a perfect people and nation.

And, discarding from discussion those whose acts or prophesies we find detestable doesn't go to forming a solid argument.

 

EVERY "interpretation" of the Bible is a self serving one.

We have no "direct" interpretation of the Bible from a god. That is the very problem of using the Bible as the basis for, well, ANYTHING by claiming it is from a god. The Bible was written by men and is interpreted by men. We have NOTHING to directly link it as any kind of "Word from God"

What you believe the Bible says is just an interpretation made by a man of a book that was written by a man.

 

A solid argument for what? What about those who cruelly prophecy condemnation of America for our shortcomings and ignore our sacrifices? Yet we are blessed as a nation. So surely God is charitable. And we are then beholden to gratefulness and obliged to purity in all the particulars of our existence in following his mercy. God isn't what we see to believe, but the justice we seek to realize and render. It is a matter of what is in ones heart. The equity of his mercy is not to the justification of wickedness or to its increase, but the call to our betterment. To dismiss this is to cull oneself to the dregs, as God isn't one to be mocked or fooled. We are not the masters of God by stubbornly clinging to the prince of darkness, who can only lead us to woe.

 

Can't argue with that. The original pieces of scripture are as close as we can get to the truth. And even that is scribed by men. But it doesn't mean that their testimonies aren't true.

 

And it doesn't mean their testimonies ARE true. When you are asking that the government use the teachings of an ancient text as a basis for laws then we better be DAMN sure it's true before we do it. A group thinking it's true isn't good enough.

 

My comment was about your claim that others follow false prophets: "Your quote is in regards to false prophets, as opposed to true ones..." That's an attempt to establish your world view. And, here you continue with that theme.

Who are those who "cruelly prophecy condemnation of America for our shortcomings and ignore our sacrifices"?

What are those sacrifices?

 

The new testament is about how to live ones life and what duties man has.

It's not about government or law or commerce or how to justify war.

And, the law and governments of the OT are not something that we would EVER consider to be advice on those topics.