Is homosexuality "normal"?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by SpaceCricket79, Oct 21, 2015.

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  1. MySy

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    BTW: More procreation does not necessarily create more tax-payers; it creates more overpopulation, more crime, more terrorism.
    We got gay friends across the Globe, and do not like them to face more discrimination.
     
  2. miketx

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    I'd say it's not normal at all but a chosen perversion. Children aren't born gay. When's the last time you heard a toddler yearning to blow his crib mate, or saying "Gee daddy, I can't wait to to grow up so I can take it up the butt!"?

    I know this one: Never!
     
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    What's "odd"... is that some Americans cannot properly quantify the ills of prejudice, bigotry and racism in this society. Of late, I've noticed it most with White racists who are clamoring after the tragic Donald Trump candidacy. But it is true also, with the ways that many have decided to utter relative falsehoods about LGBT fighting for basic/equal rights. Some speak as though gays and others have NOT been subjected to the literal TYRANNY of an overwhelming MAJORITY of folks; when it is clear who the actual victims have largely been.

    Sure, there are some nasty "Black" people (maybe more angry/violent than they should be) and there are some "gay" people that are also in a similar disposition. But to suggest/say that we have not seen Whites, Christians and heterosexuals attack the respective 'minorities', is disingenuous; downright deceptive distortion.

    So, I'd say it is FAR better to admit that people on all sides have been hurt... and that we really need to go for solutions, instead of this hateful and violent BS, that has literally WRECKED so many other societies and nations over time.

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    If you want to be gay that's fine, just don't try to normalize it by saying you were born that way because it's not true.
     
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    Is being a habitual practitioner of the abomination of hypocrisy normal.
     
  6. Johnny-C

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    People don't "want to be gay"; they just are. Really, where are all the people who WANT to be and actually CHOOSE to be "straight"?

    (Yes, the way you say things DOES matter.)

    It's what it is. Whether people seek to "normalize" it or not... they should NOT be discriminated against, and receive EQUAL protections and rights under the U.S. Constitution. To say otherwise, is absolutely bigoted and un-American.

    You do not know what you are saying. Science is STILL working on an answer. But I promise you (and so will millions of others)... if YOU and others think that (lack of scientific determination) justifies oppressing and discriminating against LGBT people... then you will be challenged and directly called-out.

    And that is as it should be.
     
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    It is the aggressive, powerful gaystapo that is doing the attacking on society, telling us what to think, what to speak, how to act, what we can eat, and whose blood we have to put in our bodies against our will.

    The Born Gay hoax has long since been exposed and debunked, and by the homosexual creators of the hoax no less.
     
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    ... I don't see anyone telling you what you have to eat, whose blood you have to take, or how you have to think. You might not have a right to put those thoughts into all the shared spaces we own together, but you can think whatever you like.




     
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    Exactly. If people want to be gay, go for it, but this BS that they are born that way is just leftist ideology that posits that if you spread a lie long enough people will believe it. Like they said, you can fool some of the people all the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool 'em all, all the time!
     
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    That is not something you can ultimately substantiate. Now... it does 'seem' to be impressive here in this forum, although it is absolutely specious and LUDICROUS in a truly historical sense. :(

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    I heard a gay joke once that at first blush I thought was funny, but on second thought, after thinking about it, it was a joke designed to promote the born gay agenda, which is completely false. The joke goes like this: These two gay guys got together with a female friend and talked her into being artificially inseminated and having their child. She had a normal healthy baby boy, and the two doting dads were visiting in the hostpital when the nurse came in to check on JR.

    How's he doing, asked one of the dads?

    Oh, he's fine now, said the nurse.

    What do you mean now, asked one of the dads?

    Well he was screaming his bloody head off for a while until we figured out what he wanted.

    What was that said the dad?

    It took a while but one of the nurses finally took the pacifier out of his mouth and stuck it up his ass and he's been fine since.

    :(
     
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    That is just STUPID!! People DO NOT choose their sexual-orientation. (Why don't you realize and accept that? I wonder.)

    When I wake up one day, and hear the 90+% of straight people (many millions) begin to tell their stories, of how they went through the 'amazing' experience of being HETEROSEXUAL (and nowhere on the spectra, in between gay/straight)... I'll buy what you're sharing. Really, if being STRAIGHT were a choice... a LOT of movie plots would be very different.

    As far as I/we know, only bisexuals can choose who they are attracted to sexually and become romantically involved with. That isn't some 'ability' one turns on/off, like some Marvel Comics superhero might be able to.

    That ludicrous nonsense and MYTH you are spouting here on this topic, is misleading millions of people WORLDWIDE and ANYONE who can read what you're saying and knows better... SHOULD challenge the untruthful views you are spouting; for the purpose of helping anyone who is trying to make sense of human sexuality.

    Science is challenging you more than you realize, even now. Yet, you CONTINUE to say what you 'believe'... rather than what has already been studied more objectively. Your views contribute to the problems many people are facing in this world. You don't even realize the troubles you are adding more BS to. It's disgusting, in my view. :(

    And everyone does FAR better being educated... than aligning themselves with some bumper-sticker mentality.
     
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    ******* ROE

    1. Demand a link or an explanation of the truth you are objecting to.

    2. Reject all explanations as right wing lies.

    3. Ignore any facts presented.

    4. Ridicule spelling and typos.

    5. Attack the person as being juvenile, ie: "are you 12 years old?", or question their education, or intelligence.

    6. Employ misdirection.

    7. Lie.

    8. Play race card

    9. Play gender card

    10. Play gay/lesbian card

    11. Make up (*)(*)(*)(*).

    12. Repeat as needed.

    So far you have pegged rule 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, and 10. Possibly rule 11 as well.
     
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    I suspect that you cannot handle the truth.

    Regards.
     
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    Rule 3
     
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    Is being gay normal? Well not not really when you look at the total aspect of it. In terms of population gays are a very small portion of the population, so in that aspect no it is not normal. Gay men and lesbian sex is not normal because obviously our reproductive systems are designed specifically, 2 gay men can not make a baby and the colon is designed for an exit. 2 lesbians can't make a baby together , they don't have the tools to actually have sex, the nothing but a masturbation session.

    Gay is a thing. don't take this the wrong way as it is just an example, but it's a thing like pedophilia or incest relations is a thing. It's not mainstream or common, so of course it's not really normal.

    BUT unlike pedophilia being gay or having gay relationships does not make a victim of anybody. Nobody is being hurt because someone has gay sex. Nobodies privacy or life outside of the gay or lesbian couple is violated because of it.

    Now with that said, since there are no victims of gay sex or relationships, even as it is not a normal thing statistically and biologically , why the hell do people who do not participate in homosexual relationships give a damn?

    Also we need to worry about much more important sexual issues like pedophiles and animal sex freaks that create victims. I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about the dude next to me consenting to having another man invade his ass crack. No I'm worried about the guy next to me checking out the 6 year old boy or girl and wanting to violate them.

    Ask yourself, what is a real threat to people, the guy who thinks you have a cute ass or the guy who thinks your 10 year old has a cute ass?
     
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    You don't know why we "give a damn"? Are you living under a rock? The liberal gay machine is rolling over anyone who stands in the way of gay "progress". Look at the gay wedding crap. Then look at the hypocrisy of the left. They will DESTROY a Christian who because of their belief refuses to serve gays, but let a muzzie do the same thing and it's ignored. That's why we "give a damn!"
     
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    Then explain the parents who say they've always know their child was gay. Explain the mannerisms, interests and other "stereotypes" sometimes seen in very very young kids. Not all gay people show signs as young children, but many do.

    It's not a defect, it just is. Being born a woman isn't a defect. Being born white or black or Asian isn't a defect. Being terrible at math, or a good artist aren't defects... they just make up who a person is. You're trying to remove sexuality from a person's identity. It's not this separate thing, it's part of who we are. What we choose to do with what and who we are finish off the package. I don't want sexuality to be considered a defect, I want it to be recognized as part of who we are. It looks different for everyone and it's ludicrous for someone else say they know how or why a person feels how they feel. I am a gay person telling you I NEVER remember feeling comfortable with the idea of a straight relationship. So if I never felt comfortable ever, when did I supposedly choose this? Even before I knew about sex I always felt more at ease, more myself, more comfortable and connected to females. As I got older that bled into physics relationships, but how can you explain that of a kid unaware of sex or homosexuality?
     
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    No, our reproductive bodies were designed for procreation. The clitoris and prostate were designed for pleasure. Literally the clitoris does nothing else. Don't confuse sex with reproduction because lord knows if that was the only reason straight people had sex they would freak out.
     
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    When is the last time you knew a toddler that wanted to climb inside a vagina? Kids don't know about sex as toddlers, so the idea that they would or wouldn't want to blow someone is insane. I didn't know what a blow job even was till middle school.
     
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    It seems it is you who is confused with your excruciatingly contrived linguistic parsing.
     
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    You falsely acuse people of parsing. I've seen you do it once already.

    Here you didn't. You didn't address or quote anybody. This is a way dishonest people hide their arguments from superior debators.

    Dishonesty will only serve to convince yourself of your falsehoods.
     
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    Perhaps if you work at it you can become a master debater.

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    All the little boys I knew came out of one, they sure didn't come out of some gays bunghole.
     
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    One need only be aware of basic logic in order to point out gaping holes in the idea that human beings can't procreate based on their sexual orientation.

    Novice level isn't even required.
     
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    Based upon all of recorded history there have always been homosexuals in all societies. In some societies it was acceptable while in other societies it was disparaged (typically because of religious beliefs) but the fact is, because it's always existed in all societies, from a historical standpoint homosexuality is quite normal.
     
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