Is it against forum rules to conspire to gang ignore a member?

Is it against forum rules to conspire to gang ignore a member? Well anyone know? I do know its going on now. If its not against the rules it should be. Why? Because ignore by a group contradicts debate.

reva

 

Many members of a possible group have publicly stated that they put me on "ignore". I think that such is their right and choice, especially considering the nature of their "rebuttals". Example:

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/88721-does-isreal-want-peace-54.html

 

Here are the forum rules. http://www.politicalforum.com/introductions-member-chit-chat/announcements.html

 

What makes you think you are being ignored?

 

Only if it is liberals doing it.

 

I'd suspect that it'd be quite difficult to prove a disruptive intent since the ignore option is promoted by staff to members rather than flaming and trolling.

That said, I agree that placing someone on ignore doesn't enhance the atmosphere of a debate. That's why I have never nor ever will use the ignore feature.

 

Thanks for the replies. I rarely use it and most of the time I iggy someone its to protect me! Haha ~ . Nevertheless if I do iggy someone, its only temporary. I was more concerned with a group force iggy, for example; Lets say I become angry at a member and in a new thread call for all Christians and those who support me (all one of them ha ha), to iggy the member in question. I suppose that WOULD be infractable eh? However If I did it by e mail or maybe by PM (even though PMs are visible to mods on most forums) it may NOT be infractable due to the difficulty of proving it.

Anyway, I am not too concerned even if there is an effort to gang bang me, there are ways around it. Maybe its just healthy paranoia. However **cof** I would give my permission even if its not needed for the mods to check all the PMs if gang ignoring is against the rules....just saying. Or maybe a statement could be posted clarifying if it is or is not against the rules, maybe if it is a notice alone would discourage the use of such a thing.

reva

 

Why should that be against the rules? I would think anyone could ignore whomever they pleased.

 

Yeah, I agree. Making "Conspiracy to Ignore" some sort of prohibted action would be extremely hard to prove.

 

Not to mention it doesn't really hurt anybody.

 

Putting people on ignore is to admit defeat in argument. A collective ignore is the surrender of a whole army. If people of likemind just want to talk to themselves then let them. Putting people on ignore is an admission of lack of self control - a fear that you won't be able to constrain yourself from personal attack.

 

It could also mean that one is annoyed with the personal attacks and doesn't know how to deal with such. In other forums, I used to ignore at times due to moderator inaction. Or, it could be a form of a personal attack where one attempts to insult forum members by advocating for them to be ignored (a practice in this forum). Occasionally, it is implemented simply because some have nothing political to contribute. It could also be used as a political tactic, where one pretends to ignore in order to issue an unexpected and damaging political rebuttal. The only thing that one should not do, in my view, is to publicly advocate ignore action against forum members.

 

You are right. We have a lot of fratboy trolls who do that. But to put them on ignore is a self admission that they are getting to you. We should strive to keep our cool and not react like this. Sometimes it might be appropriate to actually ignore what they say, but we shouldn't hide it. That is an admission that such drivel has some power over us.

 

Yes, this is what I've learned over the years and it is why I stopped using the ignore list.

 

When a gang or group of posters conspire to ignore a member the spirit of debate is dead. And toxic faux' censorship and control is alive and well IMO. Think about it. Here in this forum at this time its probably not a problem. Nevertheless that seems to be changing even if in miniscule increments. What I concerns me is ; lets say that one day we log on to discover that the majority of members were radical Jerry Falwell type Christians or terrorist friendly Muslim members? That in and by itself is not a problem, unless they began a group ignore attack.

I am not saying for the administrator make draconian measures only that a dialog be established to make suggestions. There are more than enough adolescent forums that have post that sound if they have been lifted from the urban and slang dictionary. All in all this forum is still a well balanced place, However there are tendencies from both ends of the spectrum that seem to be vying for dominance IMO. If either one wins out the good PF will be at best another run of the mill flame fest.

reva

 

It's a bit daft to come into a debate forum and refuse to debate anyone with a different opinion, although there can be one-off whackos who need to go on ignore for a while. We all have people we share views with and our views tend to support each other consistently in some topics. IMO it is a different thing if people are deliberately coordinating to exclude a poster from debate. That smacks of bullying and is somewhat silly as we are here for the purpose of debate and discussion. In the real world and in politics people organize and coordinate and lobby for their cause, but on a forum it could kill debate and damage the forum.

I don't know if it should be against the rules. It happened to me here and I thought of moving on as there is very little point being in a debate forum if people will not debate. I pack attacked the perceived group, publicly called them on it and it stopped. (I'm the only one in my pack, but I make a lot of noise).

 

I disagree, I come on to debate and talk to people that I enjoy, why should I waste my time with people that don't add to my experience here or whose views I find offensive? I have a couple of people on ignore, one for blatant racism...I am not going to read her rantings, just like I won't spend time reading a KKK site. I have x number of hours to be on the computer on any day, the ignore feature enhances that time.

 

Are you being ignored? Or someone else? I like you and I don't have but only one person on my ignore list. It's not you.

I personally am not aware of anyone gang ignoring anyone else.

 

This is a good argument, as long as one doesn't want to fight for what one believes in. I've found it, at times, to be very challenging to criticize racism and yet I still insist on opposing such.

 

I prefer not to worry too much about anon people on forums like this. I do my fighting person to person.

and I think you know, hopefully, that there are people whose minds are closed and nothing you can say or do will change them...so why waste precious time and energy? pick your fights...

 

Even if this is happening and involves any significant number of people, I feel you're over-reacting (pretty much by reacting at all).

If there are people who would actually do this, you're unlikely to have any kind of serious debate with them anyway. They could even be doing you a favour since they won't be posting any inflammatory responses.

It's hardly censorship though - you've a right to post but no right to demand other people read what you post. If people want to ignore your posts, be it by technical means or simply skipping over anything with your username next to it, that's entirely up to them.

At the end of the day, this is just an internet message board. Nothing happening here actually matters (I find it's worth telling yourself that every so often).

 

RevA , we've spoken of this before , many times . On most of the threads , reasonable discussion / debate is the rule , , the discussion / debate on the religious threads is the exception , at least one of them . If posters are speaking of something that is proveable and factual , then the thread is probably not going to be trolled , and it's enjoyable for everyone . so the trolls go for the religious threads because they know they can get by with about whatever they want , that's one reason why I don't post much on that forum anymore .

Judge , please note I did not change one iota in your post . lol , we've had a few disagreements , but we worked them out , didn't we ? that's discussion / debate . If a group , any group , on any forum puts a group iggy on someone , then in my opinion , they are taking over the thread , the 'PF Staff' has lost control of the thread , and we all loose when that happens .

Heroclitus , on most any thread I post on , I try to make it a good post . However , there have been / are people that really pliss me off , it's sad but true . it's a waste of time to debate with a troll , so I iggy a few every now and then , just to keep my infraction level down .

hey Viv , ain't you glad you taught me to multi-quote ? You made several good points , Viv , and there are more people in your pack than you realize .

I'm not going to call the posters name , but awhile back I was getting hammered with flamebait with every post I made , and I tried to laugh it off and post like I usually do , but this guy had a pack that was really on my back , and it got old , I tried to report it , but as it was in the religious threads , not much could be done . so I sent the person a pm , asking how they'd like it if about 30 people showed up and started reporting every post they made . the next day , I recieved a pm from a mod , advising me not to send any more threatening messages , and if I couldn't get along with my fellow posters , then put them on ignore . so , I did , and that person is still on my iggy , and that person is one of the worst trolls on PF .

A quick look at the Humor & Satire forum will reveal the anti-God atheistic threads he's started , it's not humor , and it's not satire , so why is it there ?

 

If it is happening, take it as a signal that you are right, and folks do not want to discuss things with you as they know they are incorrect.

 

Why can't all conservatives be all like Hillbilly. There would never be any people on ignore then. We wouldn't even need Mods.

Like Hillbilly - except for the awful fonts he keeps using......

 

Yes, I'll second that.