Islam has replaced communism.

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  1. billy the kid

    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Well if he's in it Ill take the programme with a grain of salt....
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Many years ago, as we will all remember, people would buy and wear single coloured T shirts
    Some would be red, or white, or blue, or black, or green...whatever.......
    Some may have had a makers name, like Puma or Adidas on the sleeve or the collar.
    Then started an era where "message" shirts began to appear...multi coloured shirts, with
    various messages emblazoned across the front or back.
    We could even buy shirts with Elvis Presley or AC/DC pictures on the front or back.
    I wonder what would happen if we started wearing T shirts with an anti-muslim
    slogan on the front or back...
    Wouldn't happen....why not...because people would be afraid of being
    attacked.....too racist....dear oh dear...
    Strange.....sad....or is there more fear and anxiety out there than we really want
    to know about.........
    I have several "message" T shirts...but would never wear an anti muslim
    T shirt...I'd probably finish up dead.....or at least prosecuted under 18c...
    Interested to see what is permitted in USA by the talking heads....
    Id imagine they'd be permitted to wear anything under their Constitution...
    But no no no...not permitted in Australia....too controversial...too racist...too inflamatory...
     
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    Red Lily Banned

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    Just make sure you don't wear a Pauline Hanson t-shirt.

    [video=youtube;JVDNb3KEajw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVDNb3KEajw[/video]
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I saw that...I hope they dont try to produce a Derren Hinch T shirt..his ugliness would guarantee
    no sales....
     
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    It's hard to imagine why anyone would vote for Derryn.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Stunned by the number of TV programmes at the on muslims and Islam...
    People are beginning to wake up....
     
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    Yes the classic reaction to muslim aggression and conquest.

    Peaceful coexistence did not work then and shows no promise today
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Despite few things I don't get along with with Islam, there is one thing an old bloke from Morocco once said:
    There is not a single Muslim country in the world, which produces weapons!
    Think about it and wake up....
    Regards
     
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    It's one thing to produce them, quite another to use them. Supply and demand really. No one is forcing them to pull the trigger.

    This whole Muslim Christian thing is not new, been around a lot longer than you and I. This rubbish will not end well and will cost a lot of lives.

    I am not sure where we will end in this debate about Muslim immigration, but I am sure that it will divide the nation. Fear is a debilitating disease. On one hand we have fear of what might happen, so ban all Muslim immigration, and on the other hand we have fear of what has, and is happening, and rightly so.

    The question is, do we ignore the threat and quite possibly put our society in danger? or do we go down the " prevention is better than cure" path, and ban Muslim immigration?

    It is time that we lay all bare and really debate the issue. Not try and out yell each other, nobody hears anything when that happens. Lay down the facts, ask the tough question, and make a national decision on such matters.

    Personally I think there is a better chance of the Pope baptising Mohammed, than rational discussion in this country.
     
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    as it should be... history events of the past should always be looked at to address current history, and Christian history is much like Muslims history today

    we should never forget the past....

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    sad thing is, like with the Christian religious fanatics, I think the same is true of Muslim religious fanatics... they will have to die before it gets better, either by killing or old age.... the current violent fanatics will never stop

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    When we see the Martin Place siege, the Curtis Cheng shooting, the Wayne Greenhalgh stabbing, we need
    to react. Its as simple as that..we need to react.
    Too many people will say "aah, she'll be right mate..who's shout is it..."
    But on the other hand if someone is concerned, he is labelled an Islamophobic.
    But then we have the extremists who protest in the worst possible way.
    There are talkfeasts on television which solve nothing..they just degenerate into
    slinging matches...
    The politicians will sit on their hands and tell us (like the muslim London Mayor) that
    terrorism is part and parcel of city life...
    And of course Turnbull will break bread with the muslims and tell us to be more tolerant
    of other cultures...
    And the Police may tell us that there is no threat as the attacker was just mentally disturbed...
    And then we have the muslim protest which simply says "stop picking on us"
    Whats the answer....
    I dont know...
    But I know one thing...I wont be walking my dog by myself anymore....
    And that, in itself..........is sad in a country like Australia....
     
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    I understand your concerns (for which the sensationalist elements of the media have much to answer,) but I think the many problems in many parts of the world - but principally Israel and the Middle East - lie not with Islam, or Judaism, or Christianity, but with extremism and injustice.

    I am a Pom currently studying in Australia, and I have grown up and gone to school with many Muslims. One of the kindest people I encountered during my childhood was the Pakistani Muslim man who ran the corner shop. I hear similar quasi-hysterical opinions from certain elements in the UK - and encounter them on these pages from Americans, but Australians need to look at the matter rationally. There has not been an Islamic terrorist attack upon Australian soil - ever, and statistically, you or I are more likely to be struck by lightening, than to die in one. The ludicrously named 'Siege of Sydney' consisted of one deranged individual who shot one man. The other two individuals who died were shot by the police - the attacker deliberately, and the other was killed by a ricochet. Both Cheng and Greenhaigh were attacked for no obvious reason by people who were arguably disturbed, and the only reason we know about them is because their attackers were Islamic.

    My parents and grandparents lived through many years of the American-supported and financed IRA terrorism, in which many hundreds of British men, women, and children, were killed whilst going about their business. But I hear very few people express concern at walking their dogs for fear of Catholic Irishmen in the UK.

    The extremists and would-be terrorists have won when we limit our daily activities for fear of their depredations. The people who liberated the French at Fromelles and Pozières, and heroically held a Japanese division back at Kokoda, should not tremble at a largely media-driven bogey man. You are better than that.
     
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    billy the kid Well-Known Member

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    Whats your opinion on muslim ghettoes in the UK, bearing in mind that Melton, in Melbourne, has a
    subdivision planned for the muslims only...lets say fast forward 20 years...tell me what your opinions are
    regarding Australia and Islam...btw the Cheng killing and the Greenhalgh attack were motivated by a call for lone wolf attacks in Australia...lets not trivialise these issues.....

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...veloping-says-former-equalities-watchdog.html
     
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    That is not how it works though, they actually were terrorist attacks. The people were nutters sure, by our standards, but not by the people who's narrative they were following. My grandfather who fought in the Mid East during WW2 once told me never to turn my back on them, from his experience there. So while I appreciate your imagination about what peace should be, not all of us are ignorant to the reality of the world. If a threat is real, just because its unlikely doesn't mean it's not going to manifest. What you should be peddling is appropriate awareness and personal security - not to ignore it.
     
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    at,
    if your granddad really served in WW2 you should be ashamed about yourself. Hitler's aim was to create one single race.
    Your granddad fought against that single view of a future world.
    And yet you hate Muslims to a point where yours and Adolf's thoughts are showing similarities.
    God how I wish to understand this world....
    You know why I love Australia so much? Because of our diversity.....
    Regards
     
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    Except... I don't hate muslims, as I've said here before. You lefties seem to have this us or them mentality which blocks your capacity to relate in accurate terms with anything beyond your spoonfed brainwashing to be anti-right. But I know it protects you by keeping you thinking you are 'right' and every over view is wrong - but its delusional on your part. I think they have meds for that....
     
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    Wow,
    you are saying you don't hate Muslims, blacks (Abos), gay and lesbians and anything else which differs to you? There mus be another "at" on this forum.....
    Regards
     
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    Why do you say that.... back it up with quotes or I'll report your arse. My best mate in school was muslim, heck... he even lived with us for 4 months :D Your clueless and fear what you dont understand, so you avoid the real issues. It is people like you who create the biggest divide, drawing lines where none exist. Have you ever read the Quran, do you even understand the validity of peoples concerns, or do you just write it all off as racism and bigotry because your too lazy to really care? You type are the first to attack your fellow Australians because your the most fearful and project that onto everyone else so you feel safe in your lies to yourself - pathetic. Oh, and both my grandfathers fought in WW2, and while its up to you if you want to believe me or not, I do know what they'd say about you
    :roflol:
     
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    Like many people who wanted to understand Islam. Pauline has read the Quran, and still reads it. This is the reason why she and the people who have read the Quran understand the current doctrines being taught to Muslims via the Quran, are just not compatible with any other culture or religion.

    1) Islam tolerates and condones child sexual abuse through child marriages

    2) Islam tolerates and condones discrimination against women

    3) Islam advocates the killing of homosexual individuals

    4) Islam demands no other religion or culture be accepted besides Islam

    5) Islam demands the barbaric Halal slaughter of innocent animals


    Pauline Hanson recognises that Muslims (Afghans) have been in Australia for some time. They first came to Australia as Afghan Cameleers between 1860 - 1930s.

    As Pauline logically points out. These Afghan Muslims have lived in Australia for nearly 150 years, and never once “demanded” Halal certification on their food, of Halal slaughter of their animals. Then how did they EAT without it?

    If these Afghan Muslims have lived in Australia for 150 years without demanding “Halal” certification and “Halal” slaughter. Then why are the current Muslims, who have just arrived in Australia demanding “Halal” on all their food?
     
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    Interesting isnt it...worldwide non-muslim communities appease muslims...yet tell me one
    topic...just one... that muslims have changed to appease non muslims....
     
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    Channel 9's A Current Affair last night aired a segment on Sharia Law.
    How the public view Sharia Law is entirely up to the individual.
    However, be that as it may, I found the following to be somewhat mystifying..
    Poor Mrs Trad..was she simply parrotting opinions and answers regarding her
    husband wanting a second wife. Was she embarrassed, belittled and ridiculed
    by her husband wanting a second wife when she says "so long as we are treated equally"
    Or was that what she was told to say. Doesnt she realise that it is common for older men
    to seek younger women who are more interesting, exciting and vivacious than their current
    wives. Refer to Paul Hogan, Greg Norman, Wayne Bennett for starters.
    It doesnt seem to matter what Mrs Trad thinks..if thats what he wants....
    I suppose that its normal as Islam treats women as half the value of a man.
    Oh by the way, did anyone see a woman running a Sharia Tribunal during the
    programme...or just men....I might have missed that...
    As far as interest free sharia loans, that is a lot of unadulterated crap as can be seen
    from the link below. The term "interest" may be forbidden by Islam, but they get around
    that by using the word "profit"
    Unfortunately, the much heralded programme on Sharia Law being practised in Australia
    only gave us a glimpse of the Trad family, and not much else that you couldnt google
    if you wanted to. A typical Channel 9 rubbish programme, just like the rubbish they served
    up on the burkini fiasco on a french beach recently, which was all staged...but what would I
    know, I am just an infidel...

    http://www.yourmortgage.com.au/article/a-new-way-of-lending-in-australia-79341.aspx
     

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