Isn't Equality Ultimately in Women's best Interests?

Yeah you should remind Max of that because his post encouraging me to commit suicide violates the statute of cyber stalking and it's very likely he is going to spend 10 plus years in prison for his crime-being that encouraging someone to commit suicide is an aggravating circumstance.

 

YOU I have hope for .....the "other poster" not........which is why I seldom post in "Women's Rights"...It is inhabited by the lowest of misogynists and frightened men (NOT referring to you.).

But I like Renee, the other "pea" so I came in here...

but the stupidity and fear of "others" is why I don't stay too long....

 

Yeah attacks and insults are against the rules if you're a white male who is an advocate for racial and gender equality if you're not a white male who does not believe in racial and gender equality then your attacks and insults are not applicable to the rules-lol.

If that is not a special right I do not know what the your criteria for a special right is-lol...

 

I would argue its more women choose to not enter a lot of areas of work because its unpleasant work not lack of aptitude in a good number of cases anyway for example to make it as a business CEO you must generally be brilliant and ruthless, the same for politics, the same for research sciences and other areas now women can do these and do but so far it favors men until the system to get from A (beginning) to Z (the goal) goes a different way than the routes of power now.

 

Your analogy is messed up. I would think you’re a racist not for criticizing slavery, but for criticizing those fighting against it.
Feminism is about equality and you keep saying it isn’t. What I find almost comical is you find that women get lighter sentencing and you want me to fight for them to get heavier sentencing. Why don’t you fight for men to get lighter sentences? That’s not my issue that’s your issue so go and fight and do something about it..You want women to fight your battles, sorry that’s your problem.

 

I’ve asked that time after time and all I hear is prison sentences

 

Actually I am hoping that you will learn something

 

Men don’t have to be accountable for their looks the way women do

 

Whiiiiiiiiine. Be honest, you got passed over by a woman, didn'tja?

A common genetic response is the "fight or flight" response. When confronted with a conflict, animals will do one of those two things. With the exception of some mammalian mothers protecting their young, prey will, more often than not, flee. Predators will often fight. Human beings are exceptions to the animal kingdom in many ways, but they still have this same response. Fully mature adult human beings deal with the consequences of their actions and fate. They continue to fight. Less mature or less intelligent human beings often flee, even if it's just mentally, by giving up. They may give themselves solace by blaming others, but they are quitters just the same.

Your fate is in your hands, kid, but so far all I've seen you do is blame others for your own failures. Feel free to report me to the Washington State Police for "cyber stalking" you.

 

That is the problem the double standard as I pointed out you need men to be chivalrous and play nice the way men are traditionally around women and then MRA do challenge issues such as lack of fairness in prison sentencing based on clear gender bias and we want equality to be an automatic consideration for child custody in divorce and women's groups fight men even though its in the end our issue. These are two of many including the lack of shelters for abused men, lack of prevention studies for men's suicide, lack of accepting boys temperaments in schools and other issues.

Many women in the academia of Feminism are not on Men's side so fine, we don't need to be on women's side, let the genders fight it out and see who wins it might favor women due to a lack of competition they have however men could drop out of all this and be a lot more MGTOW men over the coming decades why should we compete you need us for a wallet, working mule and sperm and men if they have money can always buy the company of a woman to get off or just go without it. Porn and masturbation is cheap to be blunt and safe I don't need to worry about child support or the hassle of a woman. I chose this decades ago but many men will go there possibly especially when they develop sexbots and sex VR gets good.

 

Unequal pay for unequal pay is wrong. Ever notice women 's professions get less pay? I am a teacher and why do I get so much less then an accountant who was typically male? You keep talking about an equal work for equal pay. Can you give me an example of that? Men are promoted and paid more at a much faster rate than women with the same experience
Women get more alimony because men make so much more. Educate yourself and you will learn that women who make more than men pay more for alimony
Women are exempt from selective service and men are exempt from childbirth. Different but equal. I think everyone should contribute to a national service.
We have had white male affirmative action for over 200 years. Did you complain about their special rights? Because of their affirmative action they have tremendous advantages like networking from colleges that excluded women and minorities. How do you suggest leveling the playing field?

 

Unpleasant work? Compared to what? Better to clean toilets than push paper? Better to be a secretary than an executive?

I do think that society places most of child-rearing upon mothers. Although it can be done otherwise, the fact remains most people think one can either be an executive (giving 100% every day) or a secretary/mother. Society is changing with more men taking a more active role in family, thus allowing women more freedom toward a professional career. Of course a more obvious alternative is to just forego children.

 

This one is obviously mentally ill and deserves my compassion, not my consternation.

I already told him I was never passed over for anything but he seems obsessed with this paranoid delusion that I was passed over for a promotion.

It's sad.

 

We don’t need you to be chivalrous. I wrote a magazine article on chivalry and I called it the silent power struggle. I can hold my own door and the door I want held for me is the one to the boardroom. We should all hold the door for the person behind us. Women should be able to call men for dates and not have to wait for a man to do it...which is expected..and it isn’t fair to men that they have to risk being rejected...but at least they’re encouraged to take risks.
THere are as many shelters for men as there are for women.And I have no idea what you were talking about when you want lack of prevention studies for men suicides. And what do you mean by not accepting boys temperaments in schools? I taught middle school my entire career with the toughest boys and girls .I don’t know how I treated them any differently
Reading what you wrote leads me believe someone damaged you. Your bitterness toward women is so deep rooted,
We don’t need you for your wallet and sperm...we can earn our own money if we choose and sperm? Real easy! .

 

That’s hardly unique to women

 

Then why your anger with women? Hate and anger have a source. Name yours. Is it something personal not professional?

Your whining is threaded throughout this thread. Your whining about women, your whining about "cyber stalking" and your whining about being confronted, just to name a few.

The fact remains that there are some genetic, but mostly social reasons why white males dominate in the workplace. Although society is changing, mostly for the better, there is also some reverse discrimination being ladled out by LWers. Spineless males (AKA Omega males) can whine about it, but that will never change their chosen path.

https://www.askmen.com/dating/curtsmith_300/384_5-signs-you-are-an-omega-male.html
As opposed to alpha males and beta males, omega males are the lowest of the low on the guy food chain; they’re the type of men who shirk responsibility, refuse to grow up and generally avoid participating in the real world. Omega males take many forms: Grose points to the whiny, wannabe public intellectual, the effete and preening metrosexual, and the obsessive video game junkie as representatives of this new class of men who have seemingly renounced traditional modes of masculinity.

 

Women are becoming engineers and techies like never seen years ago. Women have been told like you’re saying that we are better at nurturing. Women can be just as tough and just as strong but the difference is a man who is seen as nurturing is seen as weak. Why do you suppose women want to break into men’s professions but men don’t want to break into women’s professions. Being like a woman is negative

 

Why didn't you become an accountant then? No one forced you to be a teacher. Why are the consequences of your own CHOICES men's fault. That is not accountability.

Equality means equal accountability.

Equality does not mean equal pay for unequal work.

A typical account works 12 months out of the year with 2 weeks of vacation. Teachers get 4 months off a year. Teaching and Accounting are not equal occupations.

If you want to make more money study something at university that would result in you being qualified for a lucrative career when you graduate.

The consequences of what you chose to study are not men's fault. They're your fault.

Take some accountability for the consequences of your actions and choices and stop blaming seemingly everyone but yourself for your choices.

 

My wife worked in an ammunition plant for 5 years. She was a bullet inspector. They would not hire men for that position because they felt women were more attentive to details. So if you want to play the sexist identity politics card, I suppose you could do it there. Everyone is a victim if they want to be.

 

OMG! I right-clicked on ryobi's avatar and "search Google for image" (I'm using Chrome). You'll be surprised (or not!) at the result I got back! ROFLMAO. It definitely fits my perception of him.

 

The women I work with tend to be "above average" compared to men; more attentive to detail, more diligent and less risk-taking (which can go either way, but in my job, it's a good thing).

The flip side to "above average" is that there are very few of them and, IMO, they worked harder to get the job therefore "better".

 

Take some accountability for the consequences of your actions and choices and stop blaming women for your choices

 

Like I said cyberstalker

When have I ever blamed women for my choices-lol

 

You really dont get it, do you.You have this paranoid complex that I blame men for everything. We do have a patriarchal society and men’s work traditional gets paid more than women’s work. I didn’t want to be an accountant. And there are many accountants who would have liked to be teachers but didn’t choose the professional because it pays too little and it’s mostly a woman’s profession. You keep repeating the same ridiculous quote that equality does not mean equal pay for unequal work. What does that mean? Do you think an accountants job is more important?Accountants do not work 12 months out of the year with only two weeks vacation. They make a lot more money and take long vacations except around tax time. If teachers worked 12 months a year and got the same amount of money they made each month it still wouldn’t be close to an accountant and that is why teachers work during the summer in second jobs. By the way teachers do not get paid for this
summer
Your solution is ridiculous saying that I should not be a teacher Because it doesn’t pay much. I am not blaming men. You believe I should do something else and I believe that I should fight within the system. There have been a lot of changes to education including pay raises and class sizes among other things. I guess to you money is the answer to everything but to me the job of educating the youth of America is probably one of the most important and most valuable professions and should pay more. Obviously you don’t value education

 

Mental illness does not exclude you from the law:

Cyberstalking is the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk or harass an individual, group, or organization. It may include false accusations, defamation, slander and libel. ... Cyberstalking is a criminal offense under various state anti-stalking, slander and harassment laws.

A Misdemeanor Can Become a Felony. Cyber stalking statutes usually classify cyber stalking as a misdemeanor offense. However, cyber stalking charges can be raised to felony level offenses by other factors.