It looks like the Fall Surge is coming

Face shields are helpful to protect the eyes (and the outer surface of a facemask) from droplets but are not a full solution since they do not protect against aerosol. Medical grade goggles with a seal around the eyes are better protection. As for P100 I believe it's a bit of overkill. N95s with a good seal are fine since a good one (like the American-made, non-counterfeit ones) can deliver protection up to 98%.

 

Trump doesn't have a clue about medicine or science.

What he knows is that Democrat leaders started screaming to "Test everyone in America for free, or you fail". That's what Trump knows. He knows there is public demand for tests and something of a global competition between leaders for how many people get tested.

At this point, Trump is like a henpecked husband. "You want tests? Here. You have tests."

Even if he knows that the tests are going to produce a lot more fake numbers than we already have today, no one would listen if he tried to say so.

 

You're right, and that's where Trump failed to rise to the occasion. He had an opportunity when this began to take the moral high ground and insulate himself from the plunder of the Treasury that was part of the CDC Scam. I'm afraid he doesn't have a moral bone in his body, and so he failed, hoisted on his own petard as they say.

 

So Trump is a weak President and without convictions

 

That first link is amusing, thanks! They are using 18-29 year olds as the "comparison group" to say your odds of dying increase as you get older. LOL How many 18-29 year olds die? Probably more 18-29 year olds die from car wrecks, accidents and suicide than from Covid. What is 30X of 0.003 anyway?

The second link has different models predicting anything from 2k deaths per week to 12k deaths per week by October 15th. That's a big spread which suggests that the value of the model lies in the eyes of the modeller. You want to be optimistic or pessimistic, or just throw a dart?

But, yes, by all means wear your mask. I am wearing one too, as required by state and local authoritarian law. Thanks for the links.

 

I know that anecdotal may be sometimes discounted, but I am familiar with several folks who initially tested positive, but because they followed up inside of the quarantine times, and tested negative, because of the use of other types of tests, the veracity of the test positive data seems really in danger of being grossly inaccurate. Same for total deaths.

 

Know one had a clue what was going on until Dec/Jan. Trump had good intentions of putting what he thought was a high-quality Task Force together and he didn't have much choice but to trust those people, until more details started coming out and he became skeptical. The snowball was already fairly large and rolling downhill quickly by then.

He did set in motion a relaxation of regulations which allowed dozens of companies to start manufacturing tests. Now we have hundreds of millions of tests "in record time" compared to what it would have taken compared to the standard FDA/CDC red tape. So. He'll play that up as an accomplishment. Public demand was there. He filled public demand with supply. Shrug.

 

Uh huh.

Trump promised to stop endless wars. He was just nominated for a third time this year for the Nobel Peace Prize.
Trump promised to enforce our immigration rules. We don't have caravans of undocumented travelers walking across the border.
Trump promised to bring jobs back to America. We did have the best economy in over 50 years.
Promises made. Promises kept.

He made no promises about the first pandemic being released from China, and the first major pandemic in 100 years (which has turned out to be hype and over-sensationalism). He followed the advice of the WHO, CDC/FDA, not realizing the scam they were about to pull.

 

Anthony Fauci warned Trump in 2017 that he would face an epidemic. Trump ignored him at his own peril. Yes, Trump was taking fire from all quadrants.

Then Trump famously said "it's a hoax". Accurate, but he should have elaborated. He is a poor leader with a spinning moral compass like the rest in Washington DC.

 

Yeah. I was just reading the package insert for the Abbott Rapid Tests. We're going to have a lot of false positives (more than we had with the PCR). Looks like if a Rapid Test is "positive", the person will be quarantined until they can get a PCR test, and that needs to be scheduled within 2 days. We're going to have lots of nurses, teachers and other front-line workers out on sick days which is likely to shut things down again.

Bad decisions made with bad tests.

 

I remember there was one Chinese doctor who was trying to blow the whistle on Covid. He tested negative 7 times while he was sick as a dog in the hospital. The 8th test was positive, right before he died.

 

He called the Democrat leadership and media narrative of panic a hoax, but that's water under the bridge.

I know that the Fauci's, Gate's, et.al. have been warning for years of a pandemic and we've had something like 20 pandemics in 40 years. We never shut down for any of them and they died out and went away, except for HIV/AIDS. Hard to plan for something "novel" until we have something "novel". A pandemic doesn't necessarily have to be a respiratory-type illness. Could have been anything.

Trump is not good at communicating details which is why he is dependent on teams of experts (like every other president). He is more of a "big idea" guy, but his lack of being able to convey more of the underlying detail is a handicap.

 

And sent more troops to Syria just last week to confront the Russians. Practically anyone can nominate someone for a Nobel prize,

Didn't have before Trump either

No jobs have come back. Now you have the highest debt and the 4th quarter GDP rate was the same as Obama's even after Trump's massive tax cuts

Trump fiddled while US burned

 

Has the flu virus ever shut down the world the way Covid-19 has? No country wants to shut down their economy but that is exactly what we are seeing.

 

Trump relies on a team of experts?! Now that is funny. Trump just relies on himself and people who agree with him. That is so typical of a bully.

 

No, and we should not have shut down for this one either.

 

We aren't the only country that has shut down their economy. How about proffesional sports not allowing fans in, and games are canceled due to the virus spreading amongst the players? Do you think you are smarter than the folks who make those decisions?

 

~ The general public will not wear a sealed respirator - nor is it necessary. If you are compromised / elderly it would be of value .
Surgical masks do not protect against aerosol . Plastic does - even without a seal - not 100% but better than masks.

~ Good chance those test kits in China were defective.

~ We see that with Obama.

 

Surgical masks (as long as they are the correct grade) also protect against aerosol, thanks to brownian motion. They can trap even 0.007 micron particles while the SARS-CoV-2 is 0.1 micron. Actually the masks are tested against 0.3 micron particulates for their certification because these are the maximum penetration ones. Bigger ones AND paradoxically smaller ones don't penetrate as well a layer of blown melt, and good surgical masks that do have good blown melt (ASTM levels 2 and 3) provided that the seal is enhanced with rubber bands, deliver aerosol protection as good as that of an N95 respirator, which are graded at 95% for 0.3 micron particulates but actually trap 0.1 micron ones even better. I know it's hard to believe but it's a fact. You can find an explanation here:

https://fastlifehacks.com/n95-vs-ffp/#Can_Surgical_Masks_Filter_the_Coronavirus

This article although it explains well the brownian motion issue, is a bit outdated; it recommends surgical masks as last resort if you don't have a respirator but actually enhancements to surgical masks have defeated the difference, like in subsequent testing done at the UPenn Perelman School of Medicine.

I know that the general public won't achieve a good seal, but that's precisely why I've been trying to teach them how to do that.

The problem with your reasoning that "if you are compromised / elderly" is that half of our population is compromised/elderly. 44 million seniors, 140 million obese, 100 million with hypertension, etc. (with some overlap). About half of our adults are "compromised" so yes, it is advisable for all of those to wear a good mask with aerosol-filtration capacity and enhanced seal. And goggles or at least a face shield but I know that it's an uphill battle.

 

~ True. But many are homebound. The elderly also have a high survival rate. I think a pneumonia vaccination may make a difference .

 

Did you see my edits above? I went out to fetch the link, and got it there. Read it. Very interesting. And not just the subsection I linked to; the whole article is very interesting although outdated in a few parts.

 

~ I will . Thanks.

 

1 - Yeah, I guess anyone can be nominated for the Peace Prize. Obama got one for breathing, and I hear that Biden was nominated this week. Never mind that Trump has managed a treaty between Israel and the Middle East which was thought to be impossible, but that any other president would be drooling to have accomplished.

2 - Oh yes, we had caravans before Trump. Obama built those border "cages for children" and became the Deporter in Chief.

3 - You're saying that Trump's debt increased 6 months into a 100-year pandemic where people were forced by government to stop working and board up businesses? Oh, say it isn't so. lol Trump's economy helped people from the bottom up. Lowest ever unemployment for minorities. Everyone got richer until the pandemic hit.

4 - Trump has a fiddle? Seems like the people "burning Rome" are on the Marxist left with BLM's sidekicks dressed in black bloc. If there is anyone sane remaining on the leftwing's leadership, they should denounce those people. They've gone crazy. Wonder where Ted Wheeler is hiding out today?

 

I think there are medical experts smarter than both you and I put together who are saying that the lockdowns need to end. We're killing more people now through continued lockdowns than Covid is killing.

 

3. Wrong. This occurred before the virus : " Now you have the highest debt and the 4th quarter GDP rate was the same as Obama's even after Trump's massive tax cuts"