Jullian Assange has been arrested following removal of asylum by the Ecuadorian Government

Manning did time for that. Why shouldn't Assange?

 

The Democrats loved Wikileaks until Wikileaks exposed the DNC to be a corrupt banana republic political organization.

Remember when the New York Times published the top secret "Pentagon Papers" ?

It went all the way to the SCOTUS...Something to do with the freedom of the press and the First Amendment.

 

He won't be facing charges for publishing anything.

 

Is it your opinion that Wikileaks should publish one leak on the U.S. then wait until they have dirt on some other country to print before printing the next leak on the U.S? Is that the way you think it should work? Really? Wikileaks publishes "leaks" only when they have checked, double checked and triple checked the facts. They have NEVER been wrong so far and they have refused to print more than they have published. So, to get to your complaint .... they can only publicize what they have "eyes on". Why is there so much whistleblowing on VERIFIED leaks about the U.S? That is a question for you, your government, and your joint conscience.

Come again? Is this the same "obvious" as in "Irak "obviously" has WMD's"? Where do find your "obvious" in this story?

 

Provide oversight? You gotta me kidding me. Our CIA spied on their own oversight committee and what happened? Nothing. Our intel heads lie to congress, under oath and what happens? Nothing. The only thing our gov't has to fear are whistle blowers and those who will inform us, by publishing the material. And that is how we find out about gov't scumbags and banana republic behavior. That you would rather not know, so that ignorance is bliss, is on you. But there are plenty of americans who are not so naive and highly principled people. And understand any gov't needs to fear whistle blowers and those who publish, for it is the only means the people have to try to keep these people honest, and acting with principles and within the law.

If people in gov't were not scumbags, some of them, no one would see the need to blow the whistle, and no one would see the need to publish the dirty details of what happens in secret.

Your gov't your reps in DC do not represent you, as an average americans. Princeton evidenced that using 2 decades of congressional record, and yet you think you have a gov't by and for the people and want to protect it? Give me a break. You are not that much different from the intel head to lied to congress. Same mindset, which I find against this republic and against the People.

Naive people are very good for gov'ts lying to their own people, and for fascist behavior.

 

If they cannot get him for anything, they will set the perjury trap, the "go to" snare used by our gov't.

As they did for Dr. Corsi. Right out of Stalin's playbook.

If we had a rule of law constitutional republic, when an intel head lies to congress, he would be in deep sh*t. And if the CIA spied on its own oversight committee, a rule of law republic would not tolerate it and someone would be in prison.

 

Assange didn't steal the information - violate a secrecy oath - and so on. If someone steals some information - and puts in on the dark web- then someone else publishes that information on social media - should this be a crime ?

 

Interestingly, at first, it was the left side of the political spectrum that defended Assange. Then when the rape and anti-semitism allegations were made, the left abandoned him. At the same time, the American right wing embraced him and remain loyal to this day.

No surprise, in all honesty.

 

Interesting comment which I highlighted above as it was the favorite tactic used by Republican McCarthy in the 1950s. Despite all his charges, hate, and harassment of innocents he succeeded in convicting absolutely no one of being a commie. All he could do was to make trick questions and finally get only one person on a perjury charge.

 

DNC hack 'n dump with precise timing, and the Kremlin loves WikiLeaks as much as Trump does for it. Has WikiLeaks "leaked" a single thing about Putin's perfect regime? Nope. There is a shared ideology between them, and I think it's clear that Russia has been connected to WikiLeaks, probably providing a good share of the hacked material. It serves as one of many tools for them to attack and destabilize our government and society, and those of our western allies.

Russian Officials Condemn Julian Assange's Arrest in London

Russian officials have spoken out against Britain’s arrest of Wikileaks founder Julian Assange on Thursday, expressing hopes that the whistleblower’s rights will be respected.

Assange was arrested by London's Metropolitan Police after Ecuador withdrew his asylum which had allowed him to take refuge in the country's embassy in the United Kingdom since 2012. A video widely shared on social media showed Assange being dragged out of the embassy into a police van.

... https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/11/russian-officials-react-to-julian-assanges-arrest-2-a65194​

Cute, eh? The country that murders and intimidates journalists for reporting the wrong things, has no free speech and assassinates people living in other countries is terribly concerned about the rights of Julian Assange today.

 

The death of free, journalistic speech in the U.S. was marked when the term "embedded journalist" was introduced. If you are unsure what that means we can discuss it.

Now who's dreaming?

 

With Corsi, they had all of his communications, a huge book, and there is no way in hell, a man his age, or anyone for that matter can remember what was said in 10s of thousands of emails or texts, and all they have to do is to catch you one time, with not remembering accurately. They then slap a lying to the feds charge on you. As they tried to do to him. It is in his book, the way our gov't operates. They then threatened him with 25 years in prison, and he then had to tell a lie to get out of it, which he refused to do. But most people would not have that courage. Yeah, Stalin had nothing on these scumbags. It is pure evil, IMO.

 

It wouldn't surprise if Assange never sees his day in court but is found dead in his jail cell.

Assange is the only one who actually knows who hacked the DNC.

Then there's the unsolved murder of Seth Rich.

Some say Assange worked for Vladimir Putin or was a useful idiot of the Kremlin.
Then why didn't Assange seek asylum at the Russian Embassy ?

Assange is an Australian citizen and what crimes he may have committed happen on foreign soil.

It should be interesting what unravels.

 

I don't see that you have a legitimate point. Read my lips ... Wikileaks prints VERIFIABLE leaks as they are revealed to them by whistleblowers. Do you have access to dirt on Russia? If so, send it to Wikileaks and they will publish it as long as it is VERIFIABLE. Here's your chance! Strike a blow! However, If you have no info or know anyone who does have such info then I have no advice to give you.

 

You think he will pardon him to have a go at the Dems? The one thing that is strange is that they have apparently reduced the charges and hence his jail time. However arguments I have heard as to why now have been that Ecuador needs US money and I think they have moved to the right and with that Trump and also that the US is losing it on civil rights. The honesty and integrity of both our mainstream journalists have gone way, way, down since 9/11 and particularly the Iraq war when I seem to remember the US ones agreed to lie. I think the west, here as well as in the states is in a dangerous position re our reporting what Politicians want rather than being investigative journalists. Governments always need an eye kept on them. Then there was the intent to ban online and although the big shout was to ban the furthest right sites, left sites which were just producing good investigative journalism have been strongly hit. I will be honest I have not kept up much with Assange. However I do know that he is very well thought of by someone who I studied with decades ago and who I would put among the very top people I would trust as far as integrity is concerned so I suspect he has not been up to anything other than allowing the public the ability to know what their Government is doing in their name which in a democracy cannot be a bad thing. Yes, the 'someone will be in danger'. That is always tried but I do not think it has ever been real. Snowden trusted the Guardian and the New York Times to not publish anything they thought could cause danger to anyone. Neither the new York Times nor the Guardian were arrested for publishing his work - though come to think of it the Guardian has since raced to the right so maybe there was some behind the scenes stuff.

 

Who are those of the right wing who embraced Assange ?

Wikileaks only confirmed what the right wing already knew, the DNC is a corrupt banana republic political organization.

Don't know anyone on the right who defended Assange for publishing embarrassing classified material.
And it was President Obama who commuted Chelsea Manning sentence for espionage.



Chelsea Manning poster child
of the Democratic party

 

this is the right wing site where the righties defended Assange:






they have gone onto other issues ATM





As for Chelsea Manning, she cuts a better figure than right winger Caitlyn Jenner

 

So American patriots are right wing.

I'll take your word for it.

Remember when Democrats use to be American patriots ?

It was back when America was still great.

But I went to the link ->

Right now the topic is guns not Assange.

I like that Top Chat on the right if the screen.

 

Manning was an American citizenship and worked for the US government so he committed treason, regardless of how good his motives. Assange is not an American, so what he did is no more than what our own media does towards nations or leaders it wants to demonize.

 

Wasn't he also wanted in Britain for skipping bail??

 

I live in Rashida Talib's district, and Debbie Stabenow and Gary Peters do a fine job of representing me, thank you very much.

 

Not any more.

Scotland Yard arrested Assange this morning for skipping bail.

Now the Trump DOJ will try to extradite Assange to stand trial in the USA.

 

I agree with your about journalism which I also spoke about in a later post though without using that term. About dreaming that the US will not create worse charges if they get him, it is what the lawyer who is working on getting him extradited said! By law they can't.

He is being charged with inspiring to hack into US computers.

Man saying he will be charged 12 months for skipping bail here and will serve 6. If Sweden do decide to bring back one charge which they apparently still can, he says he will be sent there before being sent to the US. Of course his team do not intend on this being so but it looks unlikely he will escape the 6 months in a UK jail unless he got a sympathetic judge who felt like you suggested that time has already been served. If he gets one like he had today who believes he is a narcissist no chance and unfortunately due to previous behaviour no chance of bail or he could just wait for years taking everything to the Supreme Court.

 

yes, that is the initial charge.

 

Our media doesn't hack and dump private and highly sensitive information, actually.