Kamala Harris and other prominent Democrats want to repeal Trump's tax cuts and replace them with ca

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  1. US Conservative

    US Conservative Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its effing sick.

    They define success by the number of people in poverty and dependent on welfare.

    They are the heroin dealer of political ideologies.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Democratic Party's bold new economic plan:

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    COMMUNISM!
     
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    Id say yes to this, IF those individuals who receive the payments receive ZERO welfare/EBT in exchange. Use that saved money to reduce social spending.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Then of course we have Trump out there promising a tax cut he knows he can't deliver.
    Speaking of taxes on the working class. How about those tariffs?
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    Isn't it Trump that wanted a minimum wage in Mexico. Ford needs to pay $16 in Mexico only 7.25 here.
     
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    Why can't he? He promised some sort of draft legislation to be passed after the election...why can't they write it? My taxes are lower, and jobs are coming back....including those manufacturing jobs that the Dems said would never come back.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/heres-why-manufacturing-jobs-growth-has-been-so-strong-2018-08-03



    Dems the party of giving up.
     
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    I have no problem, as does the President, with putting price controls on someone else....just not on Americans....

    Here's what they are making at Ford in the United States.....much more then $7.25/hr

    https://www.glassdoor.com/Hourly-Pay/Ford-Motor-Company-Hourly-Pay-E263.htm
     
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    This is nothing but election cycle rhetoric. Unfortunately our elected reps have realized that just saying something without follow thru garners votes. In politics words can indeed speak louder than actions...

    Jao
     
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    Good start. Now work your way down the supply chain.
    It's thinking like yours that has Trump in trouble.
     
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    ronv Well-Known Member

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    How do you think these people feel this morning?

    Gonzalo, now 40, lives with his wife and kids in Allen Park, Mich. He works full-time at an auto-parts supplier and is paid $11 an hour. His wife of 17 years works at Chili’s. The low wages Gonzalo and his wife earn leave them constantly behind on their bills, and the Saenz family depends on food stamps and Medicaid to get by.

    He and his family are not alone.

    According to a new report that I co-authored at UC Berkeley, more than a third of non-supervisorial manufacturing production workers in the U.S. receive some form of assistance from public-safety-net programs for themselves or a family member. This holds for full-time as well as part-time workers. Low wages in the manufacturing industry now cost taxpayers approximately $10.2 billion each year in public assistance, our study finds.

    http://time.com/4326073/manufacturing-jobs-middle-class/

    Real Wages Are Flat

    Aside from employment data, the Bureau of Labor Statistics also compiles the Consumer Price Index (CPI), our primary inflation gauge.

    In the same period in which average hourly earnings rose 2.8%, the CPI rose 2.7%. That’s how much the cost of living went up, on average.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/patric...wage-growth-is-actually-falling/#c0e53f47284f

    No pay wall for this one. :)
     
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    I would hope wages would go up when you inject 150 billion into the economy.
    But maybe it would have been easier to just give everyone $1,000. :)
     
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    I'm all for lowering people's taxes so they have that extra G....giving away money however is never a good solution...earning money and keeping more of it is better for the economy.
     
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    If I borrowed that money from your kids and gave it to you, did you really earn it?
     
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    Well yeah....my kids don't have a job...there money is the money I earned....why would I borrow it from you? It's my money.
     
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    Tax cuts go to tax payers.
     
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    Tax cuts aren't giving people money, it's just taking away less money.
     
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    The money you got in tax cuts was borrowed. Someone needs to pay it back. It will probably be your kids.
     
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    That's weird, just two years ago the left were calling America's working class deplorables.
     
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    How was it borrowed? I went out and worked, and earned a check. The Govt just decided to take a little less of my money. The Govt should take less, and spend less...I can support my kids and spend on them better then someone from some agency in Washington DC. Are you suggesting I earn my money, by the grace of Govt?
     
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    But it never works out that way-its a one way street.

    They get more and more, and whenever a politician tries to close the spigot they threaten to riot.

    Don't feed the beast.
     
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    Dems have spit on the working class for decades.

    They have been too busy pandering to identity politics factions.

    Trump has brought jobs and cut taxes which is benefiting the working class.
     
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    From his perspective he already has your money, even if you haven't made it yet.

    Very entitled.
     
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    tell that to the crafters of the legal change this would entail. Have it included in the legislation itself.
     
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    They will find a way around it.

    They will say it disproportionately impacts certain groups.

    The MSM will run non stop "human interest" stories to elicit empathy.

    And so on.
     

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