Kyiv:UAF begin offensive ops in specific areas.

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  1. The Scotsman

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    :D...here's a thought then....since many NATO countries are actively assisting Israel in the defence of it's airspace but not prepared to do the same for Ukraine would it be appropriate for Israel to send elements of it's air force to Ukraine and assist them defending their airspace....?....I wonder.......
     
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    The Euros are actually stepping up pretty well for Ukraine.
    The Israelis for long had a complex relationship with Russia rooted in understandings about rules of engagement over Syria.
     
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    Now is the time for the US finally to act.
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, April 15, 2024
    Apr 15, 2024 - ISW Press
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    Ukrainian officials continue to warn that US security assistance is vital to Ukrainian forces’ ability to defend against current and future Russian offensive operations forecasted to begin in late spring and summer. Ukrainian Main Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) Head Lieutenant General Kyrylo Budanov stated that Ukrainian forces are preparing to repel a future Russian major offensive expected in late May or the beginning of June but noted that this will be “catastrophically difficult” without Western military assistance. Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov stated on April 14 that the current situation in eastern Ukraine is “tense” and that Russian forces are focusing their efforts west of Bakhmut in the Chasiv Yar direction. Umerov stated that Ukrainian forces are successfully using modern technology against Russia’s larger quantities of personnel.
     
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    I hear that the Biden Administration is even trying to get Ukraine to stop attacking Z oil refining facilities because they're afraid of oil prices going up. How idiotic is that? We fail to supply Ukraine with what they need to drive the horde out, fail to give them sufficient defenses to prevent horde advances, then yell at them for using domestically developed weapons to make the war more costly for the horde?

    I imagine they're only worried about what it could mean for their chances in November, too. Got to keep gas prices down so they have a prayer. Pathetic.
     
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    indeed that was your man Lloyd Austin.......Ukes are fighting a losing battle bless em.....maybe Ukraine should sign a security agreement with Israel.....Putin really has done a job on the US here...played right to the weak point...he's played a bloody good game this time
     
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    JRB's foreign policy "A-Team" have impressive academic credentials, but they are unable to perform in the real world.

    “On October 2, 2023, Foreign Affairs closed a print issue that included a 7,000-word article by Sullivan intended to offer a comprehensive overview of the global situation on Biden’s watch. In it, Sullivan boasted that the Middle East “is quieter than it has been for decades” and that “we’ve de-escalated crises in Gaza.” Five days after those lines went to press, and 17 days before their publication, Hamas launched a sneak attack on southern Israel that resulted in some 1,200 Israeli casualties and the capture of more than 200 hostages.”
    THE NATION, The Great Humbling, How Did Joe Biden’s Foreign Policy Go So Off Course?, BOOKS & THE ARTS / DAVID KLION, APRIL 9, 2024.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-foreign-policy-internationalists/n

    Biden needs to hire someone with some commons sense to focus his team on practical policies and solutions.
     
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    With Russia getting so chummy with Iran and Hamas, that might be a good move for Israel and Ukraine alike.

    And yeah, Putin exploited the openness of the internet to poison the minds of American conservatives starting from the fringes and the grass roots. Then they boosted Trump and brought the crazy into the mainstream. They've thereby succeeded in turning a portion of the Republican Party into friends and allies. The other blonde dingleberry, MTG, famous for her talk of Jewish space lasers, now talks about "Ukrainian Nazis" and doesn't want Ukraine to get aid, and somehow she is able to hold her office. It's because her constituency relies on actual Russian propaganda and disinformation online over truthful information from honest sources.
     
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    Common sense eventually kicks in.

    “In a statement, the country’s defence minister Kajsa Ollongren said: “Air defence and munitions are vital, as we are now seeing in Ukraine and the Middle East. That is why the Cabinet has made extra money available for these NATO top priorities. This also sends a clear signal to the industry.”

    As well as investing in new technology, the Netherlands will also spend money on bolstering its own forces to better secure its own territory as fears about the outbreak of World War 3 rise.

    DefenseNews reported that Secretary of State for Defence Christophe van der Maat said: “Given the current situation, the urgency is great to further replenish our ammunition stocks on an accelerated basis.”

    Huge war boost for Ukraine as small European country hands over £3bn to stop Putin
    The Netherlands is donating over £3billion in aid to Ukraine and planning to invest heavily in internal air defence systems.
    By CHRISTOPHER SHARP, News Reporter

    10:56, Tue, Apr 16, 2024 | UPDATED: 11:00, Tue, Apr 16, 2024
    Huge war boost for Ukraine as small European country hands over £3bn to stop Putin
    Daily Express

    |5 hours ago [April 16, 2024]
    The Netherlands is donating over £3billion in aid to Ukraine and planning to invest heavily in internal air defence systems.
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1888846/ukraine-war-netherlands-stop-putin
     
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    They do seem to live in their own little world, blissfully unaware of how things really are outside of their elite bubble.
     
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    yeah....and Bannon and Owens and Carlson......they've recently all been repeating pretty much the same message....almost verbatim.....that if Americans support Ukraine they're supporting the murder of Christians... the imprisonment of Christians….the destruction of Christian values (and as we all know this is just a CIA run and controlled War anyway....:rolleyes:).... it's monumental ignorance....disinformation sure but an incredibly powerful confidence trick.....and it's having a very powerful effect in America but what's more interesting about it is that the Russian media has likewise changed it's message over the last months - its now bringing in more religious narratives and religious optics provided by the Russian Orthodox Church (which we all know its just another FSB shop) they've started over the last couple of weeks to refer to this as a holy war in line with the GOP Alt-right narratives......I think you're spot on, more and more of the American people hear these absurdities coming from these demagogues and they believe it! It's the profound belief in mere headlines and soundbites because of the preeminence of social media which is driving this - they think they are listening to American voices whereas in reality they're simply listening to Russian voices
     
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    Biden's initial reliance on these "experts" is understandable. Now it is obvious that the President's own less informed instincts combined with his decades of experience would probably have served him and the nation better.

    The Internationalists, the new book by the Politico national security reporter Alexander Ward, suffers from similarly awkward timing. An account of the first two years of Biden’s foreign-policy team, The Internationalists closes with a speech that Sullivan gave in April 2023, some 10 months before the book’s publication, meaning that it does not cover the October 7 Hamas attack or its ongoing, cataclysmic aftermath. Ward, as he explains in the book’s acknowledgments, set out “to write a story of a team that came in with immense confidence, lost it during the withdrawal of Afghanistan, and found their mojo again with the defense of Ukraine.” He delivers that exact arc, and also delivers on his expressed intention to produce “a helpful second draft of history for those seeking to go deeper,” but the book’s resilient-comeback narrative has already been undermined by global events.” (emphasis mine)
    THE NATION, The Great Humbling, How Did Joe Biden’s Foreign Policy Go So Off Course?, BOOKS & THE ARTS / DAVID KLION, APRIL 9, 2024.
    https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/biden-foreign-policy-internationalists/
     
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    Carlson is done, but he is right on top of all the Flying Saucer/Cattle Mutilation stories.

    Pro-Israel Conservatives Are Done With Tucker Carlson
    [​IMG]YAHOO!News|4 days ago
    Photo Illustration by Elizabeth Brockway/The Daily Beast/Getty"Tucker Carlson, please come back soon." That was the message Newsweek senior editor-at-large Josh Hammer delivered shortly after Carlson's shocking ouster from Fox News,

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    Conservatives Turn on Tucker Carlson
    [​IMG]Newsweek on MSN.com|6 days ago
    Former Fox News host Carlson has sparked ire after discussing how the Israel-Hamas war has affected Christians.


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    Dan Crenshaw calls Tucker Carlson 'cowardly' and 'elitist' in X response
    [​IMG]Chron on MSN.com|4 days ago
    Tucker Carlson, the former Fox News host who's among the nation's most popular and influential conservatives, spent about 40 minutes this week interviewing a Palestinian Evangelical Lutheran pastor from Bethlehem on his new "Tucker Carlson Uncensored Show.

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    Right Fumes at Tucker Carlson Over Interview Blasting How Israel Treats Christians: 'This Is Embarrassing'
    [​IMG]Mediaite on MSN.com|6 days ago
    Ousted Fox News host Tucker Carlson sparked a firestorm of criticism on the right this week when he dropped the latest episode of his online show The post Right Fumes at Tucker Carlson Over Interview Blasting How Israel Treats Christians: 'This Is Embarrassing' first appeared on Mediaite.
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    The real TC on "real" UFOs:

    Tucker Carlson Debuts Twitter Show Saying The News Media Lies, Cites As An Example 'UFOs Are Actually Real'
    [​IMG]Forbes|314 days ago
    Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own. I cover political media--and media politics. Tucker Carlson released the first episode of "Tucker on Twitter" Tuesday night, opening ..
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/markjo...ample-ufos-are-actually-real/?sh=47f1ac585614
     
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    It's called weak leadership.
     
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    TC was done yet when FOX tossed him out ...when he cost FOX news gazillion of $$$.
     
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    It's funny and tragic. Putin knows all too well what a powerful tool of manipulation religion can be, and he, the former KGB officer, uses it to influence highly religious America. He continues to set himself up as the champion of Christianity and Christian values by going on about social issues in particular that resonate with the American Right, and of course he is careful to agree with Trump on basically everything.

    At least Americans have the opportunity to break free of such thinking. Unlike the poor Russians, they are at least free to think and discuss such matters and change their minds. Because of this, I am confident that Putin's efforts will have limited effect for a limited time.
     
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    That's the difference Durandal....Americans CAN break free of such thinking....whereas vatniks have had 300 yrs of brainwashing ,and servile obedience....they have a searing ignorance of economics, and are rather incapable of self reflection. They are slaves.
     
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    Too many, but not all Russians.

    1. [​IMG]https://www.reuters.com › world › europe › who-are-armed-fighters-russias-belgorod-region-2023-05-23
      Who are the Freedom of Russia Legion and other armed fighters in ...
      May 23, 2023The Freedom of Russia Legion says it was formed in spring 2022 "out of the wish of Russians to fight in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine against Putin's armed gang". It says it cooperates ...
      https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/who-are-armed-fighters-russias-belgorod-region-2023-05-23/

    2. [​IMG]https://www.rferl.org › a › ukraine-war-free-russian-legion-fighters-against-kremlin › 32260682.html
      'I Couldn't Just Stand By': Russian Fighters Explain Why They Took Up ...
      Feb 7, 2023The exact number of fighters in the organization is held secret, but media reports mention figures up to 4,000. Tsezar, a 50-year-old from St. Petersburg who describes himself as a "Russian ...
      https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-war-free-russian-legion-fighters-against-kremlin/32260682.html
     
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    Yes...numbers are small so far...but it's a start. They've got a few vids on YT.
     
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    Ukraine has been very effective using very limited military assets to inflict massive damage to Putin's war machine.

    Ukraine says it used 7 exploding drones to take out a $100 million Russian radar system

    Business Insider on MSN.com

    |3 hours ago 4/17/24
    Ukrainian media reported on Tuesday that Kyiv destroyed a Nebo-U in the Russian region of Bryansk that was worth $100 million.
    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/worl...-100-million-russian-radar-system/ar-BB1lKFxl
     
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    Jets, Drones & Refineries: Europe Remembers Geopolitics || Peter Zeihan


    :)
     
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    Blasts tear through Russian base as Ukraine's 'US missiles' blow apart Putin's Crimea base


    ATACMS hard at work
     
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    These terrorist attacks are nothing to get excited about friend ? They do nothing to help Ukraine's war effort but, the retaliation from Russia is 10 or 100 fold on the citizens of Ukraine .. that still remain. All these Azov Nazi SS terrorist attacks do is make life harder for Ukrainian citizens .. It is Ukraine who are the ones Punished --- nothing on the scale of Genocide Joe and Bibi in Gaza concentration camp.. but punished never -the less.

    These terrorist attacks are so outrageous that even Genocide Joe has asked Zelensky to stop.
     
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    Lotsa dead orcs I'm hearing!

    Zircon missiles destroyed.
     
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    You sound worried gifty?....yes Crimea will return to Ukraine.....Kerch will either come crashing down....or the orcs can leave back on it ...and if some wish to return, a toll charge will be initiated....all proceeds towards reconstruction.

    Crimea will then become an international resort (like Disneyworld), open to tourists worldwide...not some terrorist training camp for Wagners, or Rosgvardia, or some other horse$hit.
     
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    Confusion of some kind Zoom .. Crimea will not return to Ukraine anytime soon :) a funny joke though Zoomie from that Comedy Guy no doubt :)
     
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