Largest Vax Study Ever Confirms “Conspiracy Theorists” Were Right All Along!

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Scientists have found MASSIVE increased risks of developing several serious health conditions post-jab.

    But headlines suggest the increased risk factors post-shot are “small” and “extremely rare.”

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    This study conducted by the Global Vaccine Data Network (GVDN) looked at a cohort of 99 million vaccinated individuals.

    The risks of developing 13 adverse events of special interest (AESI) were compared to what was expected based on pre-COVID-19 vaccination healthcare data, or in simpler terms, if you did not receive the jab.

    Despite claims that the increased risks of developing such conditions are “small” and “extremely rare,” it’s best to take a look for yourself (image via Daily Mail).

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    hurry get your clot shots before they are sold out!
     
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    The difference between "conspiracy theory" and "fact" is about 6 months.....
     
  3. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    In this case it took about 4 years.
     
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    True, but the deaths from the clot shot started way before 2024.
     
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    that is showing side effects like that are very very rare, and the virus itself is much worse than the jab - weigh your risks
     
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  6. Kokomojojo

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    I did!

    If the guv wants it I run like hell!

    You will nbeed to argue with insurance analyst Josh Sterling about that since he is responsible for figuring out how much money they are going to have to pay out due to vax injuries and higher mortality of those who were jabbed!

    Unvaxd wins!


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    I posted the raw data for this long time ago, and everyone hand waved it away.

    The raw data showed massively high vaxd mortality rate compared to unvaxd!
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and the data is the same as before, the side effects are rare, but exist, like most medications and vaccines
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Hmm lets see.....

    .8 percent mortality for unvaxd
    145 percent mortality for vax

    Yes very rare!

    Up to 600% IIRC for a couple issues, yes rare if you dont count death (and everything else) as a side effect! LOL
     
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    sure

    2 out of a 100 million is 200% if in the control group it was 1 out of 100 million
     
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    define rare
     
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    the amount of serious side effects in 100 million people
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Thats not a definition, how many?
     
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    it's what we are dealing with in this case and the numbers are small
     
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    You mean to tell me you cant give me a number? So rare is a fantasy word! Oh small? Give me some numbers how many are small and at what numerical point is it not small?
     
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    Gotta love a good foot-shooting thread. I suggest everyone actually goes to that link and reads it.

    It proves quite emphatically that "conspiracy theorists" are painfully wrong in every single way possible!

    Small is what you provided in that study!
    Amazing, the headline is super large letters but the actual crux of the matter is tiny letters:

    But headlines suggest the increased risk factors post-shot are “small” and “extremely rare.”

    I'm sure all the conspiracy theorists will agree with this junk thread, but let's examine what you left out of your link, shall we?


    1. Covid vaccines are estimated to have averted more than 19 million deaths worldwide, including three million in the US alone.

    2. Among their discoveries was a twofold increase in the risk of a neurological condition known as Guillain-Barre syndrome,an autoimmune disorder in which the immune system attacks the body's peripheral nervous system, leading to damage to the protective casing around nerve cells.

    3. The report said that of the 23 million AstraZeneca shots administered worldwide, they would have expected 76 cases of GBS - but 190 events were observed, accounting for a 2.9-fold increased risk.

    4. While it cannot be proven that the vaccine caused these events, there is some evidence the vaccine triggers the immune system to attack its own nerves.

    5. Meanwhile, the study also confirmed a threefold higher risk for a type of heart inflammation called myocarditis, though researchers did not give the number of expected cases versus actual cases.

    6. Myocarditis was seen most commonly in young men. It's believed to be related to immune response triggered my the mRNA vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna, which work by instructing cells to produce the same protein that sits atop the coronavirus.

    7. This prompts the immune system to produce antibodies against the spike protein, providing protection against Covid. In rare cases, this immune response may lead to inflammation in the heart muscle.

    8. Typically, the myocarditis instances have been relatively mild, leading to just 28 deaths.

    9. Additionally, both the first and fourth doses of the Moderna vaccine had between 1.7 and 2.6 times greater number of instances of pericarditis, an inflammation affecting the protective sac encasing the heart.

    10. They looked at more than 39 million Moderna vaccine doses administered.

    11. Like the link between mycarditis and the vaccines, links to pericarditis are still under investigation. It is believed to be caused by the same mechanism, an overactive immune response that attacks the thin sac-like membrane.

    12. There was a greater than 3.7 times risk of a condition called Acute Disseminated Encephalomyelitis (ADEM), which causes swelling in the brain and spinal cord that damages the protective covering of nerve fibers in the brain and spinal cord, after the first dose of the Moderna vaccine.

    13. Seven instances of ADEM occurred following vaccination with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, surpassing the anticipated count of two cases.

    14. There were nearly 190 million shots considered in the study.

    15. The study also found that after getting the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, there were 1.9 and 3.9 times increased risks of transverse myelitis and ADEM, respectively.

    16. Bell’s palsy, which causes temporary weakness or paralysis of the muscles on one side of the face, had an increased odds of 1.05 after a first dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

    17. There was also a 1.3 to 1.4 times greater risk of having a seizure following the first and second doses of the Moderna vaccine, as well as the fourth dose of the Pfizer vaccine.

    18. Also after the first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, there was a 1.07 times higher risk of thrombocytopenia, a condition characterized by a lower-than-normal number of platelets in the blood.

    19. After a first dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine, there was a 3.2-times-greater than expected risk of Cerebral Venous Sinus Thrombosis (CVST).

    20. The risks after the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine and after the second dose were 1.49 and 1.25 times higher.

    21. In total, 21 events were expected, while 69 events were observed.

    22. After a third dose of ChAdOx1, the risk notably rose to 1.95.

    23. Researchers in Israel spotted 2.7 extra cases of myocarditis per 100,000 people who were injected with the Pfizer vaccine, but this shot up to 11 additional cases for every 100,000 individuals who caught the virus

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    The graph shows the number of extra cases of each adverse effect per 100,000 people after a Pfizer injection (grey bars) and a Covid infection (orange bars)

    Landmark study finds sudden cardiac deaths in sport fell over time
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    UK cardiologists say the findings from the 'landmark' Swiss and US study should reassure people about the safety of the mRNA Covid vaccines and the risk of myocarditis.


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    The researchers added a major caveat to this finding: ‘Chances of having a neurological event following acute SARS-CoV-2 infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, suggesting that the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks.’
     
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    a hand full per your information up above, think you would know that after posting it
     
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    Yeh lets!

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    Looks pretty conclusive to me and you dont have to read through miles of text.

    All you did is post everything in the pic! LMAO

    So they get the jab and then catch covid and have worse problems than if they were unvaxd and the mortality data proves it! LOL

    Talk about shooting feet! LOL

    Good thing they fell over time as less people got jabbed! Admission of sudden cardiac death!
    More foot shooting! LOL

    Yeh but there are problems with the US studies, its call fraud!

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    Seems some of the data went AWOL in later publications! LMAO
     
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    Then there are the other problems!

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    Only for the most credulous, and there are still plenty who don't yet realize they were fooled. On the up side, I think today those are the minority.
     
  20. Betamax101

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    Conclusive proof it's 100s of times less than Covid19.

    All I did was elaborate on the pic showing the failed context you deliberately omitted.

    False "lol" Why is it only the "conspiracy theorists" consistently wrong are the only ones who say this. "Lol".

    Yeah, and you did.

    As they began to work "lol".

    There we go folks. THE salient parts of the cited report showing the consistent blundering failures of conspiracy theorists and suddenly they're a fraud. "Lol".

    The researchers added a major caveat to this finding: ‘Chances of having a neurological event following acute SARS-CoV-2 infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, suggesting that the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks.’

    Perspective. The picture showing a 2x 3x increase compared to the virus 617x higher. "Lol"

    Another failure of a thread. Post #18 doesn't do what he thinks it does "LMAO"
     
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    wow! the above post hand waves away and denies the proof, death is an adverse effect.

    post 6 graphic done by 30 year veteran insurance statistical analyst hand waved away. IGNORED

    to understand post 18, we must first understand the higher a line is on the chart, the more people died. we must also understand that the red line for unvaccinated is significantly lower then the other lines showing the vaccinated.

    If dying was the intended effect outcome then the vax is a huge success.


    Below is the chart stretched to easily see the separation between lines where we can see the vax was murdering healthy people without comorbidities.

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    Now lets look at the failures and omissions of the above disingenuous bad faith displayed in post 20, from the same link:


    Some important facts about this study:

    A. ARBITRARY SIGNIFICANCE LEVEL
    Without justification, the authors adopted a lower bound confidence interval of LBCI > 1.5+0.95CI as a significance level cut-off for prioritized safety signals. LCBI is a conservative estimate of the potential risk associated with a treatment or intervention; this assumes the risk ratio distribution of all adverse events are identical and can conflate statistical significance with clinical significance. Other risk signals lower than LBCI > 1.5+0.95CI no doubt have clinical significance.

    B. OBSERVED:EXPECTED RATIOS OF ADVERSE EVENTS WERE RELATIVE TO OTHER VACCINES, NOT RELATIVE TO UNVACCINATED

    “Expected rates (of adverse events) were obtained by participating sites using pre-COVID-19 vaccination healthcare data stratified by age and sex.

    Observed rates were reported from the same healthcare datasets since COVID-19 vaccination program rollout.

    AESI occurring up to 42 days following vaccination with mRNA (BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273) and adenovirus-vector (ChAdOx1) vaccines were included in the primary analysis.”


    C. ON “RATES OF NEUROLOGICAL CONDITIONS MUCH HIGHER FROM INFECTION THAN FROM VACCINATION”
    The authors wrote: “Frontera et al. [46] concluded that chances of having a neurological event following acute SARS-CoV-2 infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, suggesting that the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks.”

    First, we should emphasize SEVERE. So no one should conclude “increased risks of neurological events following COVID-19 relative to vaccination”. But they will.

    Second, here is that study - “Neurological Events Reported after COVID-19 Vaccines: An Analysis of Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting Systemwhich actually reported “the rates of adverse neurological events reported after COVID vaccination were 132 to 617-fold lower”.

    These rates are based on EXPECTED CASES. So how did they determined EXPECTED CASES following severe COVID-19?

    “The expected number of events was calculated as (person-years x background rate)/100,000, where background rates were measured per 100,000 person years.”

    So the expected rates of these outcomes for COVID-19 SEVERE INFECTION are based on population-level rate estimates in UNINFECTED and INFECTED PERSONS prior to COVID-19, which, of course, is also a variously vaccinated population (for any number of other vaccines).

    Meanwhile the estimates for the VACCINE-RELATED EVENTS are based on … GSVD network report-based estimated SAEs for other vaccines prior the EUA of COVID-19 vaccines.

    One of the main challenges is ensuring that the pre-vaccine data is truly comparable to the post-vaccine period data. Changes over time in population health, healthcare practices, or the introduction of other medical interventions can affect the comparability of the two datasets.

    “Observed-to-expected ratios (O:E) were then calculated as the number of observed neurological cases divided by the number of expected cases.”

    These were then compared to studies that reported a composite incidence of all neurological events acutely after SARS-CoV-2 infection”,

    “…the rates of adverse neurological events reported after COVID vaccination were 132 to 617-fold lower (O:E 0.002–0.008 with 105,214 observed cases compared to 13,908,927-64,941,552 expected cases.”

    This actually demonstrates that increase detected due to infection relative to severe COVID-19 infection is due to low VAERS reporting.

    D. Notice the study provides NO DATA ON UNVACCINATED RATES.


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    Post 20 omits the proofs given by the author proving fraud, and actually advertises the fraud as truth! SSDD!
     
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    More bloviating noise and hyperbole that nobody but conspiracy theorists care about. Useless supposition, useless conjecture, useless interpreting of data and cherry picking. What a surprise.

    Meanwhile the OP continues to ignore the concluding statement and tiptoes around it:
    The researchers added a major caveat to this finding: ‘Chances of having a neurological event following acute SARS-CoV-2 infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, suggesting that the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks.’

    Vaccine - assessed elevated risk +2 to +3 and UNDETERMINED whether it was the vaccine.
    SARS2 - Up to +617 elevated risk.

    Hilarious.

    False! What we must do is read the full report and obtain context! Notice that that stupid picture had no link, no text or context. What a surprise! Expect more out of context cherry picking from the full link.

    It's from here:

    Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics
    "Comparing mortality across coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccination status is challenging because the size and age structure of vaccinated and unvaccinated populations changes over time, because of vaccinations being offered according to priority groups set out by the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI). To account for these differences, we calculated age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs). However, the vaccination roll-out was also prioritised by health status of individuals, with the extremely clinically vulnerable and those with underlying health conditions being vaccinated earlier than other people in their age group. In addition, frontline health and social care workers, who could have a higher occupational risk, were also prioritised for vaccination. These factors influence the ASMRs and are particularly apparent for the non-COVID-19 mortality rates. The ASMRs are also affected by changes over time such as in infection levels, different dominant variants, differing level of immunity from prior infection and seasonal mortality.

    ASMRs are therefore not equivalent to measures of vaccine effectiveness, which are reported on the COVID-19 insights tool. The ASMRs give the age-adjusted risk of death for the people in the different vaccination status groups. Estimating vaccine effectiveness is challenging when vaccination status is not allocated at random, as factors that vary between the vaccination status groups and over time need to be accounted for to determine the causal impact of vaccines on mortality. "


    FINALLY!

    "The analysis of the non-COVID-19 ASMRs show that the changing composition of the groups of people in the different vaccination statuses can have a large effect on mortality, thereby limiting the insights that can be gained from these comparisons. However, the monthly ASMRs for deaths involving COVID-19 are consistently lower for those who had the second dose at least 21 days ago compared to those who are unvaccinated, demonstrating the effect that the vaccine is having on reducing COVID-19 mortality. We will continue to publish updates and analysis on deaths by vaccination status."


    /thread
     
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    More blathering drivel from denialist believers!

    The data speaks for itself, no explanation required for those who know how to read a simple chart!

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    The yellow line is consistently lower? NOT!

    It went lower for less than 1/3 of the chart, then we have the dark blue 3rd dose almost completely and consistently above the unvaxd, which is more dead people!

    Yes more people DIED that took the vax compared to people that were smart enough to refuse the clot shot.

    The text is fake and a manipulation of the data to disinform and murder more people.

    The unvaxd and this is in the young people group with more resiliance than the elderly the vaxd were dropping gead like flies while the unvaxd did several magnitudes better.

    /BEGIN INCONVENIENT TRUTHS

    Corporate genocide for profit!
     
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    I am still convinced that my girlfriend would not have been fighting three different types of cancer for the last 3 years if she hadn't got the stupid shot.

    I haven't got it and you will have to forgive me if I don't drop everything and run out and get it today
     

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