Lesson Learned: "Guns Banned Nationwide Coming to America"

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    Foreign Troops to Confiscate American Guns Under UN Treaty


    Aaron Dykes
    Infowars.com
    July 27, 2012


    “Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order … tomorrow they will be grateful.” -Attributed to Henry Kissinger during the 1991 Bilderberg meeting

    For those who’ve been wondering how the domestic gun grabbers or the United Nations think they’re going to get away with gun control here at home, one need look no further than Article 15 of the UN’s Arms Trade Treaty.

    Many American troops are patriots who understand their oaths to uphold the Constitution, so they can’t be counted upon to confiscate guns. But foreign troops are another story.

    Article 15 of the UN Arms Trade Treaty, if ratified, provides for foreign “assistance to implement the Treaty,” and mandates that nations who can provide requested support must do so if requested by member nations. That includes legal, financial, technical as well as “material” assistance to enforce a treaty that declares “recreational, cultural, historical and sporting activities” to be the “exclusively” recognized reasons for lawful private ownership, and which further recognizes the “inherent rights” of the State (i.e. nations under the treaty) to self-defense, but makes no mention of the rights of the individual.

    Read the language of Article 15 for yourself:


    Article 15
    International Assistance

    In fulfilling the obligation of this Treaty, States Parties may seek, inter alia, legal assistance, legislative assistance, technical assistance, institutional capacity building, material assistance or financial assistance. States, in a position to do so, shall provide such assistance. States Parties may contribute resources to a voluntary trust fund to assist requesting States Parties requiring such assistance to implement the Treaty.

    States Parties shall afford one another the widest measure of assistance, consistent with their respective legal and administrative systems, in investigations, prosecutions and judicial proceedings in relation to the violations of the national measures implemented to comply with obligations under of the provisions of this Treaty.

    Each State Party may offer or receive assistance, inter alia, through the United Nations international, regional, subregional or national organizations, non-governmental organizations or on a bi-lateral basis. Such assistance may include technical, financial, material and other forms of assistance as needed, upon request.


    Will foreign troops be going door-to-door to ensure compliance with new gun registry policies, imposed limits on ammunition and magazines, or in enforcing outright confiscation? Joint training exercises conducted between U.S. armed forces and various foreign armies have trained to do just that.

    In 2010, the Infowars crew covered Operation Vigilant Guard, a joint training exercise in Chicago, in which U.S. troops drilled with Eastern bloc troops to partner in stopping terrorism, dealing with meth dealers and WMDs, as well as in gun confiscation. Countless other exercises have taken place on U.S. soil involving similar joint operations for a martial law occupation with the participation of foreign troops:
    A d v e r t i s e m e n t
    Foreign Troops Training To Confiscate Guns of Americans

    American troops were ordered to conduct door-to-door gun confiscation sweeps after Hurricane Katrina, and while it has emerged that at least one unit stood down and refused the order, many more carried out the unconstitutional mission. That precedent has been followed by other exercises training American soldiers for gun seizures, along with other martial law measures.

    Infowars Nightly News co-host Rob Dew underscored the history of training to take American guns in his recent viral report:

    Troops Ordered To Kill All Americans Who Do Not Turn In Guns

    Meanwhile, the United Nations itself has forcibly disarmed numerous African nations using foreign troops, and the vacuum of power has led in several cases to genocidal atrocities as a direct result of taking away arms. The genocide in Rwanda was enabled by forcible disarmament. As Republic Magazine writes, the mass murder was “carried out by government-aligned Hutu tribal militias against a targeted ethnic population – the Tutsis – who had been disarmed with the help of UN “peacekeeping” forces under the supervision of future UN Secretary General Kofi Annan.” The Darfur crisis in Sudan also has its roots in UN-led population disarmament, as does the Burma (Myanmar) massacre, again the result of disarmament. Armed troops representing international interests including the World Bank burned down homes and killed children in effort to forcibly evict some 40,000 Ugandans on the basis of conserving lands to combat climate change.

    Indeed, genocide and disarmed populations go hand-in-hand through history– just look at the history of Democide (death by government). R.J. Rummel at the University of Hawaii is the leading academic on the subject, and has estimated that more than 262 million unnatural deaths in the 20th Century alone were caused by government, and most were at the hands of despots preying upon their helpless peoples. From Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia, to Turkey, Armenia and beyond, gun bans have created a shift in the balance of power towards the state, creating an atmosphere of victim disarmament.

    Blue helmets or foreign uniforms have no place on foreign soil, yet the UN Arms Trade Treaty text reveals a mechanism to impose just that type of control– even in America.

    Read the treaty text for yourself and see our report from yesterday: Bombshell: Leaked UN Treaty Does Ban Guns

    http://www.infowars.com/foreign-troops-to-confiscate-american-guns-under-un-treaty/

    Click the link to read U.N. Treaty
     
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    Maybe that'd make the US think twice before they continue to meddle in the affairs of other nations ;)

    But seriously, nothing happens in the UN without the approval of the United States. So chill.
     
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    well, I don't really know where to start. You told me in a previous post to not take our Rights so seriously. To chill out, relax, don't be so stringent. You actually didn't say that last thing, but that was your implication.
    These Rights weren't given to us by our government and our Constitution bans government intrusion into those basic Rights, not that the effort to remove those Rights is not there. The 2nd Amendment is their biggest brick wall. I truly believe that without the 2nd Amendment in place, we would be more like China vs. the students in Tienimen Square, using bricks and sticks against tanks and armed soldiers. that was a pitiful sight.
    That is a fine example of how a government treats its citizens when they are unarmed. Mexico is another fine example. Ownership of firearms is banned by government to all private citizens, but yet our government will freely hand out guns to Mexican criminals and still leave the private citizen unarmed against all this free firepower given to the drug dealers.
    We, the citizen, do not appoint traitors to the UN. We don't vote on who represents us to the UN. We actually have no say in how the US works with the UN or the treaties they work out together. In other words, we do not control our own government. This may largely be due to the fact that our government has isolated itself from the very people they are sworn to protect. They stick a gun in our backs and demand we pay for anything they want, because we cannot tell Washington how to spend our money. The American citizen has absolutely no impact on the UN, but take note, we have been trying to encourage the US government to get rid of the UN or at the very least get us out of the UN. The way it is set up now, the UN tells the US what to do, not the people. Hence the need for our Rights to remain entrenched or else it is very possible for the US to become a new country called the UN States. Should that happen, other countries would be at great risk from the UN States because I don't trust for one minute that any of our leaders are benevolent.
    The end result of the UN is to place citizens in a position such that they cannot resist any edict that UN issues, regardless. The UN will remain armed and in the face of unarmed citizens, there's not much to be done except bow down or be killed. An armed UN against unarmed citizens....resistance is futile. Our elected government will not only enable UN activity, but aid it as well. It is the nature of government to destroy.
    I don't believe that we should "meddle" in the affairs of other countries, but I don't run the show and I am only one man, but my Rights cannot be taken away from an outside source, legally or lawfully. Maybe through force, but not compliance. That is why I own firearms, not because of some drunken dolt that can't find his house next door, but just in case. It'll happen.
    One day America will wake up and find UN troops knocking at their door for their guns. Then we'll be more like Mexico than some are comfortable with.
     
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    No one is taking your guns. You need to relax.
     
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    Uh...No...the global fascist u.n. basically controls the entire world, including the U.S. The u.n. uses the U.S. for their global fascist agenda and propaganda.

    Sure, we influence the u.n. in some matters, however, ultimately, they're in charge.

    Example 01., "Geneva Convention."

    How does one explain the u.n.'s global fascist small arms treaty / arms trade treaty?!
     
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    Anyone taking Alex Jones seriously needs to have there head examined.
     
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    /agree

    and I am as about as pro second amendment as one can get
     
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    I'm all for gun ownership but AJ is a nut bag.
     
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    Or an actor.....
     
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    Obama mentioned during the debates that he wants a another "Assault" weapons ban and mentioned one for handguns.
     
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    He mentioned a "Ban on handguns"? I missed that one
     
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    I hope this isn't what you are referring to..
    "What I'm trying to do is to get a broader conversation about how do we reduce the violence generally. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But part of it is also looking at other sources of the violence. Because frankly, in my hometown of Chicago, there's an awful lot of violence and they're not using AK-47s. They're using cheap handguns."

    Nowhere does he say anything about banning handguns. He does mention that cheap handguns are used in Chicago but doesnt get to your bar without putting those words into his mouth.
     
  15. Really People?

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    Alex Jones is a loon, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but, I was unaware that we could start a thread in CE linking only to a Youtube video...
     
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    Then explain why Obama and Hillary are fully on board with the United Nations
    SMALL ARMS TREATY which when passed and ratified by
    our senate { 2/3 rds vote } only then needs to be signed into law by the President and
    Obama already acknowledged he'll comply.Eventually leading to defintions as to
    weapon { Guns,pistols,rifles,shotguns etc.}
     
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    FFS, Resolution 61/89 pertains to international arms trade...

    It has nothing to do with individuals...
     
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    ^^^^^This guy is falling for all the scare tactics.
     
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    Sounds like a plan. I approve-nobody needs guns. The rest of the civilized world seems to think so; I expect America will catch up one day.
     
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    I think it is a desire of Democrats and Ultra-libs, sure. I think that some of the crap they've done lately is to get the gun ban going so we can be like the "enlightened" of Europe. I think Alex Jones blows (*)(*)(*)(*) up sometimes to get people to wake up--Jesus, most people are so complacent the only way to get them to do anything is to tell them the sky is falling.

    Will they take the guns? 270 million guns in the hands of hunters and former military with a current military filled with men who love their wives and mothers....yeh, not going to happen.
     
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    I was reading up until I read "InfoWars".

    Then I was like, bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    No one is taking our guns now, but it all begins with one step. Probably will not happen in my life time, but its getting closer. I pity the people charged with going door to door to take citizens guns.
     
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    Step away from the koolaid man.
     
  24. Really People?

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    Flavor Aid...
     
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    No he didn't.
    Stop telling lies.
     

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