Lesson Learned: "Guns Banned Nationwide Coming to America"

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    So, let's see if I've got this straight; you claim Hitler (who was a self-professed anti-Semite and anti-Socialist and anti- Communist), was also a socialist? Really? You wouldn't be getting a little confused in your dotage, would you?
     
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    Now you're just being a troll for attention.
     
  3. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    That pesky word 'socialist' confuses them every time.
     
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    Hitler was against any organized group that was competing with him for power.

    Much like Obama and Hillary competing for the Democrat nomination.

    It doesn't mean that they cannot share the same ideas because they certainly do think alike most of the time.
     
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    You're the one who is begging for my attention.
     
  6. Casper

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    You are very confused when it comes to those that would vote for President Obama over Romney, that is what happens when one drinks to much right-wing koolaide. Romney is not the answer to any question other than who did President Obama beat in 2012. Clue; the country will survive no matter who wins this week, so do not plan on spending the next four years hiding under your bed we will be fine.
     
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    How is it clear, do you have any facts other than your own personal Opinion?
     
  8. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    The difference is that Obama and Romney are competing for power in a Democratic process. Hitler dissolved parliament and simply murdered anyone who even dared voice dissent against his totalitarian dictatorship. Now, you explain again the similarity between democracy and the Nazi regime. I'm all ears...
     
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    True.

    The most squalid country on the face of earth "survives" in spite of its problems and so will we.

    America will continue to decline under Obama but it won't disappear completely.
     
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    So were Hitler and the other political parties in Germany.

    I know you know that but I'm not sure you know that I knew it too.

    Hitler won political office under the democratic process and was legally appointed to be Chancellor by Hindenburg.
     
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    Yeah, because his Brownshirts under Ernst Rohm did away with anyone dumb enough to stand against him. Hindenburg was, by that time, a senile and confused geriatric.
     
  12. Really People?

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    Except he only mentioned a ban on assault weapons...

    Not handguns...
     
  13. Wake_Up

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    Just like we've been "fine" for the last 4 years, right?

    BS.

    Clue: liberals are dismantling this country with their stupid PC, redistribution obamaphone freebie crap on the backs of the working class.
     
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    Do we really need to go down this route again and again?

    It's no secret that the likes of HCI and various other anti-gun nutcase groups openly declare they fully intend to start with assault rifles and eventually take it to all guns.

    The mere fact that organizations exist with the express intent of doing away with a right altogether, and knowing the influence these groups have is enough to be very cautious any time a politician starts talking a ban on firearms...of any kind.

    Not only that but the complete and utter false witness that is played to "assault rifles" when they account for less than 4% of all gun related crime. The outright dismissal of the definition of "assault rifle" and instead the sweeping emotional outcry because a gun is a semi-auto copy of an "assault rifle". These idiots want to ban something they don't even know the definition of or what a real even is.

    It's that sort of institutionalized ignorance that automatically and immediately puts me on the defensive when it concerns my rights. The "assault rifles" that are being touted by the anti-gunners are not assault rifles at all, they are semi-auto rifles, of which there are many, many brands, makes and models that are considered "hunting rifles" by the uninitiated. Semi-auto is semi-auto whether the gun looks like an ak-47 or a Winchester model 100. Yet, that Winchester 100 would be fine according to the ignorant anti-gunners in their hysteria to rid us of "assault rifles".

    Then again, we already know that their true aim is ALL guns, not just "assault rifles", but they choose those first because they are perceived as "evil", thanks in large part to the fantasy world in hollyweird.

    No, we have enough restrictions on our 2nd Amendment right as it is, we don't need a bunch of sniveling, fearful nanny staters dictating policy out of pure ignorance.
     
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    You actually believe the mess over the last four years was Obama's fault, there goes your credibility.
     
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    No, I believe he hasn't done much, if anything to help the mess.

    And I don't recall you ever being nominated, or elected as the "credibility police".
     
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    Maybe you should ask those connected to the auto industry or those drawing extended unemployment benefits about him doing nothing to help, both of which the right would have not done about. I would also remind you that it was your Party of No Compromise that are partly to blame for the lack of action when it comes to resolving the issues and budget. The Republicans have nothing new to offer, their plans are simply the same old same that has already proven to not work, why would anyone want to repeat a past failed experiment.
     
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    Obama wasted two years on ObamaCare and little else.

    His economy sucks but that only matters to Americans who want to provide for themselves.

    Libs vote for Obama because they expect government to take care of them no matter how crummy the economy is.
     
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    Funny, if he did nothing then why does the right whine like little girls about what he did not do.

    Really, the government does not take care of me nor does it take care of any of my Liberal friends, so I would say your statement is nothing more than rhetoric with little basis in fact, but what else should I expect from someone that actually believes 47% do not pay their way.
     
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    If you dont pay income tax, then you dont pay your fair share. Those in the bottom 47% dont pay yet receive the benefits both in terms of being paid by the govt (tax credits) as well as using the infrastructure that the tax paying people paid for.

    And don't claim that payroll taxes count as their fair share. You pay social security taxes and medicare taxes for social security and medicare benefits, not to run the country and provide the infrastructure.

    And don't claim the upper 53% are all rich people, either.
     
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    your bs doesn't count as history
     
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    Your diatribe doesn't change the fact that Obama has not attempted, or even mentioned, a handgun ban...
     
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    [video=youtube;-wu9jE1MnAE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wu9jE1MnAE[/video]

    http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/barack_obama_gun_control.htm
    FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban
    Obama was being misleading when he denied that his handwriting had been on a document endorsing a state ban on the sale and possession of handguns in Illinois. Obama responded, “No, my writing wasn’t on that particular questionnaire. As I said, I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns.”
    Actually, Obama’s writing was on the 1996 document, which was filed when Obama was running for the Illinois state Senate. A Chicago nonprofit, Independent Voters of Illinois, had this question, and Obama took hard line:

    35. Do you support state legislation to:
    a. ban the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns? Yes.
    b. ban assault weapons? Yes.
    c. mandatory waiting periods and background checks? Yes.​

    Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, March 13, 2003. http://www.nrapvf.org/Media/pdf/sb1195_obama.pdf
    Voted to ban ban and confiscate assault weapons including semi-auto firearms and most shotguns


    All you have to do is google "obama gun ban" and related wording and you find all kinds of examples.

    obama is a gun ban nut, he always has been. Because he hasnt mentioned it directly in the past 3 years means nothing.
     
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    A rattlesnake does not have to strike at me before I know it is dangerous.
     
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