Lisa Montgomery's execution now set for Jan. 12, giving time for clemency application

Should it go forward?

Should the fact that this would be the first federal execution of a woman in almost 6 decades matter?

Should the fact she is a woman matter at all?

There is no doubt she plotted this horrendous crime then carefully carried it out going to the victims home under the false pretenses strangling the young expectant mother then taking a knife to cut out the baby and then careful to hide it as she left. NO DOUBT.

So should clemency by a President stop the execution? The anti-death penalty crowd is petitioning Trump probably to deaf ears. If her lawyers can delay long enough until Biden is sworn in should he commute the death penalty since he says he is against capital punishment which is constitutionally legal?

If this case is not rife for the death penalty........

"....Nodaway County Sheriff Randy Strong was one of the first investigators on the scene.

“The report was that a mother had found her daughter who was pregnant on the floor and it looked like her abdomen had exploded," he says in a documentary, "A Mother's Justice: The Trials of Lisa Montgomery" that aired Monday on WTIU, an Indiana public television station.

“Probably one of the worst things I’d seen done to a human,” he adds.

Strong also says forensic evidence led him and the other investigators to Montgomery who had exchanged emails with Stinnett about buying dogs using the name Darlene Fisher and what he said was “the rather ominous” email address Fisher4kids@hotmail.com

The sheriff says that when they went to Montgomery’s house, they found her on the couch with a baby.....

.....“Lisa is one of the most mentally ill, traumatized clients I’ve ever dealt with,” Henry [one of her attorneys] tells WTIU.

But the government prosecutor at the trial, Roseann Kechmark, who is now a federal judge, defends the prosecution.

“Just because someone is wicked or depraved that doesn’t equate to insanity, legal insanity,” she says. "
https://www.foxnews.com/us/lisa-montgomerys-execution-jan-12-killing-mother-womb.amp

She is pure evil and we should rid ourselves of her as quickly as possible.

And this is NOT about the Flynn pardon so please do not try to divert this thread with something which has nothing to do with this.

 

Kill that bitch ASAP.

 

So no comments from the anti-death penalty, pro-Biden crowd? This could fall on his desk soon after he takes office.

 

Off with her head

 

lwop is real punishment, the dp is a get out of jail free card

 

The point of a "Justice" system is to get justice. Not punishment. I say fry her. Closure on all sides.

 

If life without parole is the REAL punishment then why don't murders plead to be executed instead of getting LWOP?

If you were convicted of a capital murder would you face the judge at sentencing and plead

NO NO NO NOT LIFE IN PRISON KILL ME KILL ME!!!!!!

 

if you want to be killed you would get lwop.... never tell

the dp is a get out of jail free card

 

Which option for 'the state shouldn't execute people ...but put her in general population while the guards all go on break'?

 

Try without the dodge
If life without parole is the REAL punishment then why don't murders plead to be executed instead of getting LWOP? Why do they spend decades in prison trying to get their death sentences repealed?

 

Not sure her femaleness is relevant, here.

I say good riddance.

 

Why with the alt-lefties is the criminal is always the victim?
I love this bullshit from a leftie rag,
The Tortured Life And Tragic Crime Of The Only Woman On Death Row
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lisa...ump-administration_n_5fa586a3c5b623bfac4f101d
And then this,
Trump Races to Kill Lisa Montgomery in First Federal Execution of a Woman in Almost 70 Years
https://www.democracynow.org/2020/11/30/lisa_montgomery_federal_execution
And finally,
Lisa Montgomery: A Victim of Incest, Child Prostitution and Rape Faces Execution
https://www.commondreams.org/views/...t-child-prostitution-and-rape-faces-execution

 

Yeah the poor, poor killer...skaa-roo the innocent victims! Some crimes are so heinous that execution is the only response a society should contemplate. And no more than 5 years from conviction to sentence carried out, 20+ years on death row is a joke.

 

Would sure save the taxpayer but at least the rest of us try to be civil. I think lynching would be appropriate.

 

Trump has nothing to do with the execution, the COURTS order executions and have the prison system carry it out on THEIR authority. Geezzz

 

why don't we offer lifers assisted suicide if the DP is a worse punishment

in fact suicide is prevented in prison to stop people from ending their punishment

 

Executions aren't worth it, I don't want the state to say they can kill people, especially their own citizens. I hope Biden stays her execution.

 

I find it ironic that while some women don't want a baby so bad, they are willing to kill it, there are other women out there (like this one) who want a baby so bad they are willing to cut it out of a pregnant woman to steal it.

Presumably it is about jealousy, they are jealous another woman has gotten pregnant with a baby, but they can't.

This type of story is as old as the Bible, see 1 Kings 3:16-23.
There were two women, each with a baby, in the same house, and one of the babies died. Then the mother of the dead baby switched the babies around while the other woman was asleep, claiming the live baby was hers.

 

Live by disembowlment, die by disembowlment.

There is such a thing as 'too civil.'

Also I don't like delegating execution to the govt. Dangerous precedent and all. But a few ppl definitely need to go...

 

They are if they get on with them as they should have in this case long ago. Biden is not President so he can't stay anything. Once he does get sworn in he can commute but why do you believe he should? There is no doubt this woman planned and committed this heinous crime and do so while committing a kidnapped which means it is a capital offense, 18 U.S.C. § 1201 Murder during a kidnapping.

 

Because I don't think the death penalty doesn't work and it's immoral.

 

What do you mean it doesn't work? It kills the person as ordered by the court, it works. What's immoral about it? Convince enough citizens to your view it is immoral then and get them to vote for members of Congress who say they will eliminate capital sentences for federal crimes. It remains constitutional and legal. This woman deserves no morality judgements on our ourselves. She is the one who acted immorally and forfeited the remainder of her life by taking this one.

 

It doesn't work, meaning it doesn't stop crime. It's revenge, but not a deterrent. I've gone back and forth on it, personally.

 

It is 100% a deterrent. She will never hurt or kill anyone again once executed - meaning also posing no murder and assault threat against people incarcerated and working in prisons.

Explain to me how executing a person is not a deterrent to that person every committing murder again? People in prison do commit murder, rape and assaults - and if no parole possible they have no reason not to.

 

If you know the punishment for stealing is losing your hand, 100% of the time, you'd think twice about it.

Committing murder doesn't create less murderers.


You are asking me to defend a position I don't hold. Some of you hate grey areas. That's a you issue. I feel no need to explain what nuance means.