Liz Cheney was removed because of her failure to lead the GOP into the future

The 2020 election results is not and should not be the concern of the GOP leader in May of 2021. For conservatives, they needed a leader who could articulate the views of the caucus. A job that Cheney was no longer interested in. Apparently, this true political sabotage is aimed with the idea of trying to 'stop' Trump from running in 2024.

The problem with this, is that it does not enhance the GOP's vision(among democrats perhaps, but you are supposedly an alternative party.). All it does is exhume the energy on one potential candidate, who will be 3 years older at the time and we have no idea what if anything would happen with regards to Trump(3 years is an eternity for adults.)

During those 3 years, it will be important for the GOP to shape its policy. Its challenge will be to appeal to middle class voters and other voters who while having voted for Trump would have a reason to stay with the GOP, post-Trump.

Cheney clearly showed herself to be out of depth, and instead of trailblazing for the GOP trail blazed for the truth that is acknowledged, and is acknowledged every day by Biden sitting there no matter how many recounts happened.

So while democrats crow that her ouster 'has to deal with Trump'(the Democrats need this as election cycle material more than anything). The REAL truth, is that her ouster deals with her lack of leadership in unifying the caucus, as McCarthy says. Trump is/was done, 2024 is 3 years away. Now is the time to be presenting that image to the nation, not so much to rekindle the lost causes. That's Trump's own personal business, not that of a political party.

 

Cheney was removed as she would not support Trump's big lie... the one you just said should not even be a issue in May 2021 - Cheney was the one accepting the truth and trying to move on

 

I'm a little stoned but I'm pretty sure that's the most ironic thing I've read today.

Claiming Cheney isn't looking to the future because she's not supporting an ex-president is logically inconsistent. Trump is the past. Indeed, Cheney is trying to put him in the past. That can't be done until the Republicans tell their constituents the truth.

Sometimes, I don't blame Trumpers for believing the lies. Their leaders are still lying to them.

 

Her 15 minutes are most definitely up. Good riddance....

 

She has a year and a half left on her term. She's not going quietly, and 18 months is a long time before an election.

She was the #3 R in the House. She doesn't need 15 minutes of anything. And she's not backing down.

My prediction is anyone Trump endorses loses in the general. In contested races, of course. Solid Republican districts vote R anyway, so Trump is irrelevant there.

 

Whether Republicans 'tell their constituents' the truth or not is irrelevant. The truth is self-evident: Is Trump sitting there? No? Then that means he's not President. Were this to have faded in the background, eventually more and more people would come to accept it. Obviously Trump himself doesn't let it, but that I repeat: Does NOT mean we have to go down there with him.

Liz Cheney chose to go there of her own volition and her caucus said: Enough, we're trying to build post Trump here.

 

I can't remember who said it, and I can't find the report, but the drive to oust Cheney began right after impeachment.

Regardless of the veracity of that statement, it's not Liz Cheney publically praising Donald Trump. It's the GOP. Lindsey Graham, Kevin McCarthy, crazy lady from Georgia and Beach Blanket Bingo Gaetz. Golden calf at CPAC, fake award trophies from Florida alum.

Cheney disagrees with Lindsey Graham, simple as that. I agree with her. Trump will destroy the GOP. Look around.

And the other simple fact is that Trump cannot be put behind us until the GOP tells everyone the truth. Trump is still spouting lies. Yet, he's not being shunned. We both see the same thing, but I see it firmly in the hands of the GOP, not Cheney.

 

Cheney was ousted solely for saying aloud what many of her party is thinking - Trump represents death for the party. It doesn't help that she's female either.

With that said, I find it a bit odd that you would say she couldn't articulate a future for the party. It appears that nobody can so why was she singled out?

 

This can be boiled down to one thing; Republicans and conservatives seem to not understand basic math. A party, especially one that is significantly less popular than the other one, cannot continue to believe they have a real shot at the WH or the House, as a divided party....but go on, figure it out on your own. The ones left who understand the value of numbers will be out of your party soon enough, then you can go about your Cancel Party hysterics again.

 

Because she's a strong female. Seems kinda mean, too.

She sheds light on the Big Lie.

The GOP under Trump reminds me of those people who are brazenly abusive, yet walk around like nothing ever happened. I've had bosses like that. A total d**k on Monday and my best friend on Tuesday. My brother's like that, too.

Cheney isn't buying it. She and Kinzinger are telling the GOP, "You can't walk around like nothing ever happened, and we're not going to pretend Trump is good for the country, democracy or the party."

It's a shame there are only two well known sane Republicans. Three. Romney.

 

The exodus of one individual might not mean anything, but if there's an exodus of a political view then they really will never win altogether period. What do you think those 20-25% of voters are going to do, vote Republican? They're not a staunch voting bloc. Their next decision will be likely to sit out altogether.

They might get, 5-10% of those votes without articulating a new vision, but that doesn't mean crap for a party that like you said, isn't as popular as the other one(because the other one promises a lot of things, and doesn't follow through on them)

 

Liz Cheney was removed because of her failure to lead the GOP into the future

Hahahahahahahahahahaha, now THAT is *******n funny.

 

I say Liz Cheney Sold Out.She saw and heard firsthand like most of us
pundits how Dick Cheney was treated in the Bush Adm. He was inarguably
considered Public Enemy # 1. It was even more raw and daily than
the constant streams of vitriol applied to Ronnie Reagan.
I was a big Bush 43 supporter.And Dickie Cheney was inarguably
Bush 43's right-hand man.There is no disputing that.
President Trump obviously toppling both men { Reagan & Cheney }
on the natural circuit of Who you need to loathe.
So with Liz Cheney being a " Bushie " through & through,she almost
felt it her duty to do the same to Donald Trump.But she waited.Till just
the right moment to show her true colors.Like when there was a national
consensus to Make Trump out as if a Political Skunk.
In fact,she wasted no time in siding with the True skunks { just look
around to how Biden and Gang have had such a negative affect on
Americana.} We have Mouting Inflation,a True border Crisis, gas prices
an availability are now in Imminent Jeopardy.Public Schools are mandating
teaching of The 1619 Project,Critical Race Theory and the spread of
White Supremacy.City's are recording record increase in crime.
American workers are being corrupted by Extension of Unemployment
benefits.Our National Debt is now almost unfixable.Our Children will have
to pay for this somehow in the not too distant future.
That is ... If there Is a Future.
The good thingy is ... On account of this latter Day Cheney and her
decision to Lambaste the head of the GOP { Trump } at least her
future is guaranteed.SHE HAS NONE.Unless she feels desperate to join
anew as a Democrat.But from where.Wyoming.
Good luck Toots.

 

Liz Cheney is free to think whatever she wants about Trump. However, it is not her job as chairwoman to pick the next presidential candidate.

 

she did not, but now that she is not chairwoman, you can bet she will do what ever she can to prevent Trump from ever holding office again

the rights cancel culture is gonna bite them in the ass

 

The Vision becomes more demonstrable { Obvious beyond belief } as each
week starts anew.We need { desperately } to return to the Trump years.
Americans can now easily see and feel that.Instead of huge Hornets nests
in the Garage with this Biden,americans can enjoy Instead,a life more relaxed
and beneficial and less buzzing.Like Mark Levin proves ... Trump was
very conservative.Even more so than his former boss { President Reagan }.
Levin was Chief-of-Staff to Attorney General Ed Meese.

 

Trump's age might just do that for them. The point is, a party with no leadership needed to rectify this problem. And this is a nice step in the right direction.

 

I do not think embracing the cult of Trump is the answer, embracing the big lie is a mistake for the GOP

 

Haaaa!!! That's funny. I like this general.

 

No one's 'embracing' the big lie except for people who talk about it(like Trump). This would be like if the Democrats held onto the belief that Hillary Clinton was cheated out of the 2016 elections(actually, they did believe that but at least Schiff/Nadler didn't act on it.) As brainless as they were during those years, they had enough sense not to do that.

In fact, Pelosi lied portraying herself as a 'moderate' that would work with Trump and that got Democrats the seats(well, that and Michael Bloomberg confessed his big fat pockets had a lot to do with it.).

95% of Republican voters don't give a crap about what Trump has to say(that's not a poll, but that's like the elephant in the room.) Trump is like a squeaking parrot, and while most people would ignore the parrot, some others like to squeak WITH the parrot. I don't know why.

 

Doesn't your party have a recount of election results going on right now?

 

that was why the GOP said they got rid of Cheney, she would not support Trump's big lie

Pelosi tried to work with Trump, even offered him money for his wall in exchange for DACA, trump's fragile ego blew all deals he could of made

 

Again, that seems 180 degrees off. McCarthy is a Trump toady. First, he holds Trump accountable for Jan. 6th, then he acts like nothing ever happened. That's not leadership.

Standing on principle and not backing down are leadership qualities. That's Cheney, not McCarthy.

 

Actually, it was Trump who made that offer and Pelosi who shut it down, CNBC lambasted it at the time as failing to take advantage of the divisions that would cause within the GOP.

 

nope, Trump shot it down, same with the infrastructure deal

oh I see what your talking about, where he offered 3 years for DACA folks for wall money, no, that would never be a deal

he was offered money for his wall for a full daca deal, but refused