Lockdowns had little or no impact on COVID-19 deaths, new study shows

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  1. sec

    sec Well-Known Member

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    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/31/lockdowns-had-little-or-no-impact-covid-19-deaths-/

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    Lockdowns in the U.S. and Europe had little or no impact in reducing deaths from COVID-19, according to a new analysis by researchers at Johns Hopkins University.


    The lockdowns during the early phase of the pandemic in 2020 reduced COVID-19 mortality by about 0.2%, said the broad review of multiple scientific studies.


    “We find no evidence that lockdowns, school closures, border closures, and limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on COVID-19 mortality,” the researchers wrote.


    But the research paper said lockdowns did have “devastating effects” on the economy and contributed to numerous social ills.


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    To those who were so quick to urinate away your liberty to incompetent politicians, how does this make you feel?

    I wonder if the Aussies will even permit this study to be seen in their nation? They were locked down more than not locked down
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Ask yourself this question;

    In 2020, why do you think the NBA, NHL, MLB and the NFL paused/postponed/suspended canceled their seasons?

    AND THEN, started playing without fans?

    And yes, it’s an IQ question.
     
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    dharbert Well-Known Member

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    Yep. The various countries of the world locked down and crippled their economies for 2 years over a "deadly pandemic" that has a 98%+ survival rate and has only killed 0.07% of the world's population....
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    What’s your 98% + survival rate formula?
     
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    There have been 374,686,907 confirmed cases worldwide, with 5,664,114 deaths. That is actually a 98.5% survival rate...
     
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    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Gotcha!

    According to the below average intelligent people, PCR tests are obsolete, and totally inaccurate, thus, according to them, your survival rate formula which includes PCR Confirmed Cases is totally inaccurate.

    And thank you for responding to my question.
     
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    What was the survival rate of the over 60s in the first 6 months of the pandemic?
     
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    Doesn't matter how they come up with the figures. The single figure that you can't contest is that 99.93% of the world has NOT died from COVID. COVID hasn't even killed a half of a half of a single percent of the world population...
     
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    What about Trump cancelling flights from all over world? In other words, was grounding international airlines a smart lockdown?
     
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    Couldn't tell you. I just follow the total number of deaths and percentages of total population. I'm sure it has affected older people much worse than younger people, like any other virus or disease does...
     
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    I just wanted to know if you weren’t talking out of both sides of your mouth, meaning;

    Yesterday; PCR test are obsolete, totally inaccurate

    Today; There have been 374,686,997 confirmed cases

    ????????
     
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    Well I mean, those places never really did lockdowns. They did something like lockdowns, but they didn't restrict movement outside of a couple of Southern European cities - and even there they did it wrong. They made people stay INDOORS - literally. That's obviously going to be a disaster.

    A lockdown which works is MOVEMENT restriction, not a restriction on being outdoors. If people are festering indoors with their germs, then travelling to another location .. how the heck is a 'lockdown' supposed to work?

    Ours (and New Zealand's, etc) worked because we weren't forced indoors, we stayed out of public buildings, and we did not travel more than 5kms from home.
     
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    Again, I couldn't tell you if that test is accurate or not. I don't know. All I have to go by are the numbers that CDC, WHO, and various other entities put out there.
     
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    In other words, you trust the CDC and WHO numbers, right?

    If not, then why are you posting their numbers?
     
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    Where I live in Oklahoma, COVID has killed 0.27% of the population. Barely more than half of a half of a percent. Not exactly what I'd call a world-ending pandemic worthy of crippling the economy over...
     
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    I don't know about trust, but like I said, I don't have any other numbers to go by. One day the CDC says one thing, the WHO says another, and Fauci says something different entirely.
     
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    What about Trump cancelling flights from all over world? In other words, was grounding international airlines a smart lockdown?
     
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    Recently, many Republican PF members have reiterated the fact there are only two important numbers;

    Hospitalizations and deaths

    Agree or disagree?
     
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    Those aren't the only two relevant numbers. You have the number of hospitalizations of those who are currently sick, the number of those who have recovered, and the number of those who have died. And those numbers change greatly from day to day from what I've seen. The only solid reliable number you get are the deaths.
     
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    What number is relevant, dying with” or “from” Covid?

    Also, does your State reports the “with” or “from”?
     
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    From. With has no bearing on anything. If you die in a car crash while sick with COVID, you died from a car crash, not COVID....
     
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    I don't know how America did things at that level of detail, sorry.

    We closed all our borders - international, state, and city. We actually went down to locality limits, so you could say we closed borders at the neighbourhood level.

    Lockdowns are primarily about movement, backed up by keeping people out of public indoor places. IOW shopping centres, cinemas, cafes, gyms, etc. Beyond those two primary restrictions, people can do whatever they want. We all still went out and did what we normally do - exercising, walking, hiking, fishing, surfing, picnicing, boating, cycling, etc.
     
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    Quote; “With” has no bearing on anything

    Really, then why the words (hospitalized/dying with Covid) recently outraged many Republican PF members?
     
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    ALSO......

    Lockdown

    Definition; If there’s a lockdown in a building or the building is on a lockdown, nobody is allowed to enter or leave because of a dangerous situation.

    Source; Collins English Dictionary

    Question; Were arenas and stadiums in a lockdown, and why?

    Limiting/restricting gatherings?????
     
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    Note;

    “We found no evidence that lockdowns, school closures, border closures, and limiting gatherings have had a noticeable effect on Covid19 mortality” the researchers wrote

    FALSE!

    Arenas and stadiums’ lockdowns, thus, NO and limited GATHERINGS have in fact reduced the spread of Covid19, thus, reduced hospitalizatons and deaths.
     
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