Majority of Americans now say they approve of Trump's handling of coronavirus: poll

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  1. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    What did I lie about?

    FYI that bailout was passed by a dem congress and voted on by Obama. Obama also was the one that managed that bailout.

    Even if you take 2009 out he still added roughly another 9 trillion
     
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  2. Distraff

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    Well, he certainly doesn't deserve it. His tax cut and spending increases created a trillion dollar deficit. With revenue sure to plunge during this crisis, we are on track for record deficits, and the trillion dollar stimulus is sure to do this. Trump's trillion dollar deficit is going to make the debt crisis a lot worse and give us less room to spend to get us out of this crisis. After this crisis is over interest spending on the debt is sure to rise from 450 billion today to 1 trillion in the near future.

    He also actively pushed the FED to reduce interest rates, and engaged in a trade war with China, that resulted in the FED slashing interest rates that in retrospect has gotten us nowhere. But he refuses to eliminate the tariffs that are hurting the global economy. With interest rates already low, the FED slashing them to zero had little effect.

    And in 2018, Trump cut funding to programs that fight epidemics. He shut down the entire global health security unit of the National Security council. He eliminated the 30 million complex crises funding. The CDC had to cut 80% of its efforts to prevent global disease outbreaks because it was running out of money. It cut its efforts from 49 countries to 10.

    And lets talk about Trump's early response to the epidemic. He spent the early weeks of the epidemic calling it no big deal and not very dangerous. He said that the panic over the virus was a democratic conspiracy to hurt the economy and get Trump unelected. He was more concerned with getting re-elected and keeping the stock market up, than dealing with a real crisis. Even in press conferences, many of his officials engaged in face touching.

    The US has been especially slow in testing people for the Coronavirus, and barely tested anyone, even people who asked for it. So its likely that a lot more are infected than are officially recorded. It also failed to shut down air travel, and the border. Even today, many businesses are still open, and people are still gathering like there is no crisis. The US isn't doing nearly enough to stop the spread.

    And lets talk about his stimulus bill. The stimulus bill is a waste if we don't focus enough on actually containing the virus. Trump's plan to give people $1,000 checks is a waste of money. Many workers can earn full incomes working from home and don't need this money. Its better to extend unemployment benefits, and give full benefits to people who have lost the ability to earn money. A couple thousand dollars isn't going to help them if they don't work for half a year. We need to focus our money on the people who need it most.

    Also a payroll tax cut doesn't actually help those who aren't working and aren't earning anything. Trump also needs to focus more on helping our healthcare system cope with the virus and help make getting medical care for the virus more affordable. We also need to talk about how Republicans are ok with a big stimulus in this crisis but opposed a stimulus in 2008.
     
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  3. Rugglestx

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    Honestly you make is sound so easy when in reality it’s not.

    Who needs the money? How would you determine that? How much? For how long? How will it be paid for?
    And yet you want to close down even more of the economy?

    And you are really going to critic people for face touching during a new conference? That is such a typical human behavior. You’ve done it at least 20 times today rather you know you did or not.

    This entire thing is over reaction, full panic and group think in effect. Moves made to save lives will cause such great damage and kill so many more than were saved.

    Cats out of the bag now, too late to save the world from the coming economic devastation in the works.
    Starvation in 3rd countries when their weak economies become even weaker will kill way more than C19 would have.
     
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    Its is simple. We give out unemployment benefits, and give money for extended vacation and sick leave. This will help target people who are really hurting. I have a tech job and am working from home with full benefits and plenty of vacation and sick leave. This money will only help people afford to live. So no payroll tax cut for people who are already working or checks to people who are still working and don't need them nearly as much. We do this as long as the crisis lasts.

    I'm on the fence about what we should be about the economy or how far we should go in quarantining everything. But we should have shut down the border and airports on day 1. For people who did need to return, we should have tested every single one of them for covid. We should be investing in our healthcare system because its going to be overloaded by these covid cases. We should make sure that people can afford to be treated.

    As for the news conference, I can expect public officials discussing the crisis to stop touching their faces for a few minutes. And Trump kept shaking people's hands weeks into the crisis. This is all around a bad example.

    Once the crisis is over and the economy is recovering, its time to fix our broken healthcare system and address the deficit.
     
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    It’s not that I think your points are invalid, I just do not think we can accurately execute a pay system as you describe.

    Lots of people are / were going to die regardless of what we did / did not do. I’m of the opinion more will die because of the economic shut down as opposed to the number that would have died from C19 had we not. I also think the suffering will be greater long term than would have been short term.

    It was a really tough call either way so I won’t critic them for doing it. Just think it was a mistake.

    We certainly can learn some lesson from this and adjust the medical system from them. We will.
     
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  7. AmericanNationalist

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    I actually liked the President's response to the reporter. We know the stats, we see them every day. For the reporter to then regurgitate those stats and then ask that leading question, is what's called goading At this time, sensationalism isn't needed. Just fact-driven reports. And sometimes while some facts are true, they don't need to be peddled in that fashion.

    It isn't about it being "tough", it's about being responsible. That question is the kind of 'reporting' we got over the last 3 years.
     
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    It was a crappy pointless repetitive question IMO.
    Trump could have handled it differently, but I can’t blame him for reacting to that the way he did.
     
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    This impacts the entire country. What's Trump doing to protect people?

    How serious are we? Toronto in Canada ... what is the maximum penalty for an individual violating the curfew? One year in jail and a $100,000 fine. Per day.
     
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    Why did it take the NY governor two weeks, what he should've done in 24 hours? You have some of the busiest hubs in one of the most 'diverse' cities in North America(speaking to Cali/Washington) and you just SAT THERE.

    Meanwhile, you've got people praising these idiots for doing things they should've done WEEKS AGO. Before it became a pandemic in the US, not after the fact.
     
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    My, how things change. Der Leader has gone from calling COVID-19 a Democratic "hoax" to getting Trumpers to write stuff like you did.

    The hypocrisy--and slobbering response by his followers--is breathtaking.
     
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    No nation or leader at any level has reacted perfectly, your attempts to politicize this at this point are what is breathtaking to me.
     
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    Well, we'll have to wait until the Congressional investigations into the response are held until we can gain a better understanding of the timeline in Trump's response.

    And yes, if we can have three years of Republican investigations into the timeline of Benghazi (an event in which 4 people died and had ZERO impact on the nation's economy) then there will be investigations into how Trump handled intelligence reports on this event which will prove far more deadly and expensive.
     
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    Of course the Biden Administration will be in power by the time these Investigations yield hard info.
     
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    I did not write that but can you explain why it's hypocritical since he said these things from day one. Try and explaining it maturely and without group insults, thanks.
     
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    Whatever you do don't point out that TARP was repaid in full with interest while obozos "stimulus" essentially disappeared into the :democrat: wormhole. If you do, they go ignore.gif .
     
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    And Americans remember how our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class reacted to Trump's calls for rational reform.

    "The majority of Americans now approve of President Trump's handling of the coronavirus pandemic, a reversal from just one week prior, according to a new Ipsos/ABC News poll.

    Of those surveyed, 55 percent said that they approved of the president's handling of the situation, while 43 percent said they disapproved. The numbers were basically reversed from one week ago when 54 percent said they disapproved and 43 percent approved."
    THE HILL, Majority of Americans now say they approve of Trump's handling of coronavirus: poll, BY MARTY JOHNSON - 03/20/20.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...pprove-of-trumps-handling-of-coronavirus-poll.
     
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    I'm truly trying to understand what your saying based on what you quoted? You know it's a lie that Trump said COVID-19 was a hoax so what's the point of repeating a lie? I think most wish right now that our American companies made our drugs and medical equipment, I know most wish the guy coming from Wuhan would've never shown up in Washington, I think most understand right now we need to focus on America and our citizens not how it's effecting immigration or illegal immigration. Basically most wish all the things that were in the post you quoted?
     
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    But you did "have faith" in a President who circumvented Congress with a "Pen and a Phone" :rolleyes:

    So apparently marker writing on a weather map is more important to you than Congress and the three branches of government designed to balance power? Got it.
     
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    I have no idea what you are talking about other than it is some “Obama did it” deflection and yes i have no faith in someone who openly and blatantly lies day after day
     
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    And trump has been quick off the bat?
     
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    Quicker than these outbreak spots, as he limited travel from China(while being called racist for doing so.) That's the laughable irony of this. He did take it seriously sooner than they did. The only thing Trump miscommunicated, was his extremely misplaced optimism.

    But to me, that pails in comparison to the neglect of having the JFK airport, and not thinking you'd be an outbreak spot. Then when you got evidence of being an outbreak spot to then WAIT until the very last possible freaking moment when it's too late.

    It's the same thing with Washington/California with its unique makeup of a heavy population of Asian-Americans.(Who shouldn't be blamed or attacked for this in anyway. But well, who else is traveling to and from China?). Had those 3 states, with ANY appreciation of the circumstances in real time did what they needed to do, the rest of the country would have had let's say limited(or limited as possible) cases.

    But because they all STOOD THERE, waiting for Trump to hold their hands the crisis unfolded.
     
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    Governors need to govern, not wait for feds. States have not only that right but that obligation. I'll look to Greg Abbot as much as I look to Donald Trump during these times.
     
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    The Obama stimulous was a payoff to this union buddies.
     
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    And now China has the same travel restrictions they criticized Trump for.
     

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