Mass shootings are a price we pay for freedom and there is nothing we can do about them.

Sure, we can make that a rule.

 

I don't see harsher punishments being a deterrent.

We executed people for some types of murder. It doesn't stop that type of murder. And the punishment comes after the fact.
This problem needs to be done from out in front.

 

Can we have two guns? One for the good guys loaded with say .44 mag. And one for the bad guys loaded in.........oops, forgot to load the bad guys gun. My bad.

 

I am sure that criminals would already have their weapons of choice. The purpose of taking the lockbox weapon would be so vigilantes have access once the commotion begins. Remember, the rules only work if someone chooses to follow them.

 

Mass Shootings
The Price We Pay For "Gun Control"

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But, Dairy, that raises the unwelcome methodology of 'race-profiling', and even more sinister things, doesn't it...?

If we see a clot of 'gangstery-looking' young guys on the street and just round them up on a kind of 'preventive' basis, surely that's wrong!
Truly, outside of the realm of science-fiction, I don't know how we could determine who is going to commit criminal acts BEFORE they actually DO something.

No, as it stands, society should not apprehend or punish people based on what they MIGHT do, and I'm sure you would agree.

Still in all, I would argue that capital punishment -- if carried out swiftly after a fair trial -- is a deterrent to the most violent crimes of all.

 

None of the unnecessary and ineffective restrictions you want to place on the right to keep and bear arms have any "sense" to them at all, and none of them will do anything to reduce mass shootings.

 

Mass shootings are the price we pay for freedom??? Yes, yes, yes. A dozen times yes. I currently think that mass shootings and suicides by gun are a necessary evil that must be tolerated. I don't personally own a gun, nor do I want to die in a mass shooting, but I can understand the mentality of those who do own them.

 

I disagree. I believe we need to do more to keep guns out of the wrong people's hands.
Isn't part of freedom to be free from fear? The fear of random shootings by nuts?

 

Well, not even close to what I had in mind.
Just rounding people up randomly won't fix anything. Likely will have the opposite result.

Mental illness is a recurring theme in a lot of mass shooters. Get out in front of mental illness.

How did you think arresting people for no reason would be a solution?

Killed quickly after a swift trial?
Do you know how many people have been wrongly convicted. And you want to kill them quickly.
No, I don't think that works either. It hasn't in the past, why would it in the future.
There was a period where people would act quickly and swiftly to execute those they deemed did wrong. Many of the executioners wore white hoods.

 

But how do you do anything on a presumption of the possibility of mental illness? That's what they did in the Soviet Union.

 

We would need guns desperately just to shoot all the buzzards eating the dead bodies.

We all drive. We all do that under the most involved and rigorously enforced system of laws most of us regularly come into contact with. Tell me how many times each day you find yourself dealing with someone who is quite obviously willing to literally kill you in a very gruesome fashion just because you are in their way

Get rid of the guns and you get rid of most of the death, not all of it but most of the more easily committed cases. Sure you can kill people with other things but a small child can't easily kill several people with a kitchen knife over dinner

And you can't shoot people with guns that aren't there

 

I hate to keep mentioning this again and again and AGAIN, but some people refuse to comprehend the fact that --

 

Get rid of (x) and you get rid of the deaths from (x)
That, alone, does not create a sound argument for getting rid of (x).

 

So gun ownership should be mandatory in stores? Otherwise I don't think you'll find a store anywhere in US with 50 armed people in it (unless it's a Dunkin' Donuts).

 

Unlike a lot of people here I don't think my gun "freedom" is worth someone else's life.

What we ought to do is to only sell a restricted amount of ammo to only people with a registered firearm for that firearm and they are legally responsible for where that ammo ends up.

 

Last time I checked the vast majority of mass shootings (defined by the FBI iirc as 3 or more deaths in the same crime) are gang related committed in jurisdictions w/ draconian gun control laws. Now, if it would make any difference to u we could look this up (again for me) and verify but my guess is that what we find wouldn't make any difference to you.

 

And how do we persuade the criminals among us to abide by that constraint?

Why must it always be the law-abiding citizens who have their constitutional right to self-defense diminished and threatened while violent criminals laugh at us, the courts, and the police...?

 

A reasonable amount of ammo would be available to law abiding citizens, as it is now anyone can get all the ammo they can afford over the internet.

 

I’m afraid of fat people, should I be free of fear?

 

Demonstrably false.

 

Is there a specific reason you are being combative? You have no idea what would or would not make a difference to me.

 

You sound like you never shoot a gun.
Just imagine what will happen to an excited crowd of armed people who hear the shoots but are not sure who is shooting - more people will die.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney_hunting_accident
https://www.politifact.com/factchec...e-7-10-police-bullets-miss-their-mark-gun-co/

 

Please forgive, this text mode doesn't lend itself well to nuance but I need to tell you that I would LOVE to be disabused of my impression of your post & find out that you're intellectually honest and very much open to new info.

So. Are u interested in joining up w/ me in checking out the nature of mass killings in the U.S.?

 

I don't live in the six states that have restrictions and I "promise" I'm not a felon or under 21....really....click, click.