Ministers & Senators that vote for the carbon tax are not true Australians

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  1. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Yes thats right there not.

    The carbon tax will have a flow on effect just like the GST, it will affect the raw commodities it will then affect the process of those commodities and then the retail.

    All in all pushing up the price of domestic and export goods.

    How can Bob and Julia tax the very industry that has keep our heads above austerity measures and the looming recesion.

    Labor on its own is a very bad economic manager Labor and the Greens is disasterous, they will lower the standard of living for the middle class and the poor with this tax.

    Ju-Liar, Swan and Bob are all in bed with the IMF, now i dont know what reward they seek to gain by lowering the standard of living in Australia but it must be good for them to turn traitors on their own countrymen.

    I too want to clean up the environment just as much as any greenie BUT the carbon tax will do nothing in this area, except provide the very small percentage of people in this world a new game to play and make even more billions of dollars.

    Australia has been sold out by this minority government, if anything this minority government should have kept its head in and just run the country until the next election because they were not voted in with a mandate.

    Gillard and Brown will decimate the Labor & Green parties at the next election, i sure do hope both of those traitors lose their seats.

    Their are much better ways to clean up our act directly here in Australia, without sending billions of dollars out to the United nations, Wall Street and those creedy bankers that control the world and contanstly threaten us with recessions and depressions.

    Julia Gillard has joined the ranks of Golden Girls that please bankers.

    She is a puppet and a traitor in my opinion for selling us out.
     
  2. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    This handful of bastards have betrayed the vast majority of Australians. The fact they refuse to take it to an election is proof that they know the majority of Australians do not want the carbon tax.
    They gave Australians an absolute assurance befrore the last election that they would not introduce a carbon tax. We have been betrayed.
     
  3. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Here we go, the No True Scotsman fallacy.

    There is no such thing as a mandate.
     
  4. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    They said they wouldn't introduce it and they LOST seats, not gained.

    Mmmmmmmmmmmm, logic not your strong suit?
     
  5. Adultmale

    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    So please give us your logical path from what I said to that statement.
     
  6. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    no true bud...just face it..she lied and carbon taxation is fraud.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    We cannot pollute the environment and not expect to pay for it...
     
  8. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    Mak, do you REALLY understand what they are taxing and what effect it will have on the environment?
    Its the biggest fraud on the Australian people ever and the end result will be the utter decimation of labor and the greens at the next election.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    If it wasn't voted for, Abbott would have his tax in place, and his is just as bad.
     
  10. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    I would urge you to go to the libs page and fully read what their policy is before you say that.... The libs policy while reaching the same targets does so WITHOUT putting the WORLDS BIGGEST carbon tan in place. The libs plan WONT drive up the cost of your power, your food and just about everything you use everyday.
     
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    efjay Well-Known Member

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    The so called "carbon savings" that could be achieved in one year under this ridiculous scheme will be wiped out by china and india IN JUST ONE WEEK.
     
  12. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    It's not true that the ALP lost seats? What fantasy world are some of you living in?
     
  13. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    lol care to guess how many ALP MP's loose their jobs at the next election...or how many greens for that matter.
     
  14. Panzerkampfwagen

    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Oh look, it's a question dodge.
     
  15. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    her saying she wasnt going to have a carbon tax DID NOT loose her any seats.
     
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    Adultmale Active Member Past Donor

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    Your path of logical reasoning Tank. From my post to your reply.
     
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    Let's take a look at your broad statement in a broad perspective.

    Are you saying we need to be punished for doing damage to the environment?

    Are you saying that a fake tax on a fake problem is justified?

    Are you so naive that you think a government which is controlled by foriegn
    corporate and political interests has any interest at all in the environment,
    other than to make sure that NO people can exist in our world without their
    control over every aspect of our lives, food production and everything else
    to their benefit and profit?

    The very last wild people's on the planet are being brought into this system.
    Soon, every person on Earth will fall under the corporate umbrella.

    Make no mistake. Money is the root of all evil. Making you feel guilty while
    they destroy and conquer the Earth for themselves is a great big joke for
    them. Watching you make statements like you just did, and offer up money
    for your guilt has them in fits of laughter as they watch their electronic funds
    grow.

    There is only one reason Australia is not completely bankrupt and dysfunctional
    at this very moment, only one industry which is completely
    backed by the government without hesitation, resource export.

    Resources that are owned by them, not you. You will pay the tax on them while
    the companies get exemptions and double their profits and production.
    You are made to feel guilty while they get rich supplying other nations with
    cheap fuel, while we pay a premium because we have been brainwashed to
    either accept it through guilt, or accept our leaders as being benevolent.

    These people are not benevolent, they despise you for your ignorance and
    prey upon it. They pat your baby on the head like a newborn calf, knowing
    that all is well in the world, just the way they like it.

    Sealed with a kiss -
    Historic
    Poetic
    Signatory

    Addendum: Vote for one of them, vote for all of them, it makes no difference.
    Your squabble over which Party will save you is disturbing.
     
  18. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Get ready mak your going to be paying like all of us and pretty soon too.

    You know i heard taxi cabs in melbourne were already asking for a carbon tax cap on top of the normal fare.

    Can you think of a business that doesn't use energy in some way i cant, hell everyone is going to be asking for it.
     
  19. mister magoo

    mister magoo New Member

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    The stupid thing about it is this:

    If a Labor politician voted against the carbon tax, he/she would be regarded
    as a hero in his/her electorate, if that electorate is predominantly against
    a carbon tax...but...the politician would then be disendorsed...so to vote
    against the carbon tax may keep their job at the next election...but only if they ran as an independent, as they would be disendorsed...so....the simple
    way out is to vote for the carbon tax.....pretty gutless I think....just a bunch
    of sheep playing "follow the leader" but with no intentions of revealing
    how they really think.....but would they get re-elected at the next election....I dont think so....
     
  20. Adultmale

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    Gutless Labor politicians, bowing and scrapping to your party bosses, ignoring your electorates, lieing and deceiving, prentending to represent the people in your electorates when really you just represent your party bosses, I SPIT ON YOU!
     
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    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Well said Adultmale,

    80% of Australians are against the carbon tax, yet their representitives ignore them.

    I hope the Labor party is reduced to a minority party at the next election.

    And these traitors brought to justice for giving away Australian tax payers money in the bucket loads to foreigners.
     
  22. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    the good thing about the carbon tax..

    The great thing about the carbon tax is that the aussie voters have seen the true ( read RED ) colors over the greens and labor. The landslide victory coming to the libs at the next election will be huge and it will take greens and labor many years to fool the aussies again. Therefore its a good thing...cos it means that we will rid ourselves of the dumbass greens and labor for a long time to come.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    Then we can get back to the kissing of the US's arse while bringing in even more racism at the federal level. Must be a dream of yours.
     
  24. efjay

    efjay Well-Known Member

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    nope but getting the country ran the right way is...so is fiscal responsibility..
    Getting the greens and juLIAR out of our lives is a good one too. I can almost hear the leftist dumbass's on this board complaining already...
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    You're as insular as southern US Americans.

    You know nothing, about anything.

    Only 1 Western country weathered the GFC. Care to guess which one?
     

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