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  1. OKgrannie

    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hogwash, you were dreaming.



    They provide safe and affordable medical services to women who need them.
     
  2. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I shouldn't have to pay for PP....defund.

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    You're right, and I shouldn't have to pay for them either.
     
  3. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    People who have no children should not be forced to support schools with their taxes...defund.


    People who never use a freeway should not be forced to support them....defund.


    People who don't support war should not be forced to support them....defund.
     
  4. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    You don't, or are you under some illusion that once that tax money has been collected it is still yours?

    Perhaps we should remove funding for everything people don't agree with, or is this merely based on your own arbitrary bias.
     
  5. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Everyone needs an education. Communities benefit from good schools.

    Everyone benefits from freeways, whether or not they use them.

    The military is there for national security. Everyone benefits.

    Who benefits from dead babies?

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    I earned it. Yes, it is mine.
     
  6. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    So you think YOU should decide , above everyone else in the country, just how taxes should be spent......:roflol:


    It would be ignorant to think dead babies have anything to do with the issue , and I know you aren't ignorant so I won't address that sentence.
     
  7. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Great, then why don't you go and get it back from the government or even better refuse to pay it, after all you earned it and it is yours.
     
  8. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just admit that Planned Parenthood is a farce.

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    Well, we elect officials to wisely make decisions on our behalf, and that includes spending OUR hard-earned money. Are they acting wisely? Mostly not.
     
  9. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Why would I "admit" PP is a farce when it isn't and you have NEVER presented evidence it is???
     
  10. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    That doesn't answer the question .. you asserted that the state are only entrusted with "your" money there foreyou have every right, according to you, to have that money returned to you or you have the right to refuse to pay it .. can you do that either or them, if not then the money is not yours.

    the fact is only your net income is yours, that is the income you have left after the legal obligations you have to pay taxes. This means that the fact is that you actually do not ever have an unimpeded right to that part of your income that you owe in tax.
     
  11. Bowerbird

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    Why should we when it is not?
     
  12. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The evidence is common sense.

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    I can choose not to work, and suck off the system. Then I would be getting your money.

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    They are mostly in the business of abortions and contraception. Nothing to do with planning parenthood.
     
  13. FoxHastings

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  14. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    No you would be getting the states money .. I see you evaded answering the question. Here it is again in case you missed it.

    you asserted that the state are only entrusted with "your" money there foreyou have every right, according to you, to have that money returned to you or you have the right to refuse to pay it .. can you do that either or them? if not then the money is not yours.
     
  15. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    That is the problem with some peoples common sense, it isn't that common and usual doesn't make any sense.

    1. only 3% of PP services are abortion related
    2. Contraception IS planning parenthood.
     
  16. Bowerbird

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    Let us take the emotive hyperbole out of this and talk instead of prevented and terminated pregnancies

    So how does society benefit?

    Let me see - in the seventies in Victoria abortion was illegal and the backyard abortions left thousands of women maimed for life. Each and everyone of those women ended in hospital for extended periods

    The backyard abortion market was lucrative though and so it became part of organised crime - the corruption from this led all the way up to the top echelons

    So - we have a criminal impact and an impact on the health of the society

    I would say that meant that more than just the people involved benefitted
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is ALL my money. I earned it. Yes, the State claims some of it through force (law). They are not using it well.

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  18. FoxHastings

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    :roflol: Sorry, but claiming PP is a farce with not one word to back that up is not common sense.....

    What PP mostly does is provide BC to women and cancer and STD screenings....you call that a "farce".....
     
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    Liberals generally do not have common sense.

    Here's the real spending breakdown: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/13/jon-kyl-planned-parenthood_n_848656.html

    In all seriousness, the percentage is closer to 30% than 3%. Monetarily, they spend a lot on abortions. Sex education/STD prevention is their biggest thing. Helping people to become responsible parents is not even on the radar.
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, that was a real problem. However, Planned Parenthood is walking on thin ice with these baby part videos surfacing. They do not plan parenthood.
     
  21. OKgrannie

    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is not the goal of PP to "plan parenthood." The goal is to give women and men and couples the tools and education they need to plan their own parenthood. PP does that.
     
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    You are wrong. It is not all your money. A certain percent goes to the state. It will always be that way.
     
  23. FoxHastings

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    PP is under no obligation to help people become responsible parents.....
     
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    These videos didn't just "surface." For about three years a radical pro-life organization has been misrepresenting itself as a medical research company, secretly filming meetings, then cutting up the video tapes and rearranging them to make them appear to say things they don't. The unedited videos show that Planned Parenthood did nothing illegal. So why should Planned Parenthood be "walking on thin ice"?
     
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    I shouldn't have to pay for women to give birth and raise their child(ren) on welfare ..... defund.
     

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