More Americans Say Boots Are Needed on the Ground to Fight ISIS

http://time.com/3509160/isis-americans-poll-combat-troops-iraq-syria/

These more Americans who want boots on the ground to fight ISIS are probably armchair warriors too?!!
If we do put boots on the ground, and this war drags on for more than a year, I want to see the draft
activated?!! So we are not sending our troops on multiple deployments, using stop lost, and sending
only sole surviving sons and daughters to war!


It's all about shared sacrifice?!!

 

Lol! This is adorable. Dude, the Army has been over-strengthed and will not need a draft. In fact, it's so full that voluntary withdraws are being allowed in many reserve units that are not budget related. lol

 

To add to my point: The military is 100% volunteer, that means those of us that volunteer, did so willingly to fight. So why would you propose we send people who DON'T want to fight? Your logic is off my friend.

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Exactly, well put. We volunteer to fight, as that's the job of a Soldier. If there's a war that needs fighting, that's literally why we have soldiers.

 

The pro war oligarchy MSM has been working very hard to get americans once again behind waging more war.

Like you, I want to see a draft as well. For too many americans are insulated from losing their kids in these wars. We are abusing our soldiers by sending them back time and time again, with a soldier committing suicide at the rate of one per day.

Amercans would not be so ready for war again if they knew their own kids would end up over in that civil war, defending a people who will not defend themselves.

 

No sir, the MSM owned by oligarchs have done a good job in their propaganda, convincing americans that isis is a threat to the US.

The US military has a job of protecting the US, sure, but the US is not located in Iraq. Since most americans cannot point out Iraq on a map, they probably don't know this.

 

I was with a lot of guys who were drafted to fight in Vietnam. I volunteered but most didn't. They fought as hard as I did, even if they were drafted.

The reason we stopped drafting was because of angry constituents of politicians, who were losing their kids who were drafted in that war. So we took the pressure off of those men who send our people to war, and since then we have been involved in one war after another. Because now the politicians could say, well, they volunteered.

All americans should have skin in this game of war. And if they did, you would see less war. For we would be more careful of getting into them. And there would have to be a very good reason, like someone was attacking us here at home. It isn't called the dept. of offense, but the dept. of defense.

When ISIS assaults our shores, then they are a danger that should be defended against.

 

I don't like an all volunteer military, except in peace time. For americans than do not have skin in the game, most of them. I served in a military that drafted. We had a cross section of people, well to do, and poor. The last time I saw a military unit, most looked to be Hispanic, people who were trying to get a leg up in life, and this was the only option they had. The people around here who volunteer have not hopes of incomes. How convenient.

I want to see the sons of rich people serve, of the middle class, and of the poor. And the only way you get that is by drafting them. All americans should have skin in this game of war and death.

During ww2, many people volunteered. Yet that was not enough. For some people will not go to war, if they can get out of it. Now, the only war we should ever be in is like ww2. For Vietnam showed us that wars such as that, that we got into due to a lie by LBJ, would have people burning their draftcards.

We tried hard not to keep sending the same men back to wage war during ww2. For doing this wrecks the brains of man. Yet with the all volunteer forces we have to keep sending the same guys back, and we don't really care as a nation what this does to many of those men. We used to care. If we are gonna wage these incessant wars, we need a military large enough so that like in Vietnam, if you survived it, you didn't have to go back. I had a friend who volunteered to go back for a 3rd time and the army said hell no. They were smarter than he was.

 

"when ISIS assaults our shores"? Your mentality of "wait to get shot before you can shoot back" is horrible. Don't worry though, Obama has that mentality too, that's why he changed the Rules of Engagement. It's also why 78% of the casualties in Afghanistan have happened under his watch. Because we can't shoot back until we've been shot.

 

No, but preemptive war is a very old ploy and you know it. If Russia is building up forces, their navy, to storm our shores, that is one thing. But ISIS is no russia. You can lower the bar to justify waging war, and that is what I see happening when it comes to isis or any other group like that.

A little logic and reason goes a long way here. Too bad we don't use it.

 

That is absurd, and it is also troubling. For if many people think like that, we will be forever in war with anyone who hates America.

We have not had a real threat since ww2. We have generated these threats that we then engaged in. A group of 30,000 is no threat to the US. They are a threat to Iraq, and if those people in Iraq won't fight them, we shouldn't care.

Now, if ISIS or any other group is a real threat, that is they develop a navy, a huge army, with nukes, and they threaten us, we draft again, and turn Iraq into black sand. That is how this should work. But the chicken hawks who like watching war on the tv set would not be entertained enough, and so we continue on in this lunacy.

The US is under no great threat today, and that is a fact. Now, Russia, or china might turn into one. But some group of *******s in sands of the middle east? I don't think you know what a real threat is. So you create them.

 

Provide me with your intelligence reports that say a group of 30,000 terrorists are not a threat to the US. Provide me a source. I can provide you a source that proves 19 terrorists can kill 3,000 in America in one day.

 

It is easier to wage war, for business interests when you have an all volunteer military. And that is why we have one. America is a war mongering nation, thanks to an all volunteer military. For if americans from all walks of life had skin in this deadly game, we would not wage so many of these wars. We found that out during Vietnam.

I don't like the fat cats children being safe as the fat cats make money from stocks owned in those corporations that make war goods. As the poor people die because they joined the military to get some income. The poor fighting for the fat cats. It didn't used to be like this. For I served with kids from well to do parents. Now I know lots of rich kids got out of the draft, but not all. And we had lots of upper middle class kids serving. I would like to see a breakdown of the economic positions of the people who serve today. I think I already know what that breakdown looks like. From just knowing who enlisted here in my own area.

 

Ya here is a real threat to humanity and it needs to be eliminated unlike saddam...as my government is sending in our military id like to know where are the armies of the countries that should be doing the heavy work, the countries most likely to be afffected by ISIL, jordan, saudi, iraq qatar, uae, kuwait and turkey...why the f*** are other people dying for their wars...

 

"Our enemy is terrorism now". This is an insane, Orwellian concept. Terrorism is a tactic of possible enemies, not an enemy unto itself. It's like saying, "we are at war with the phalanx". Since ANYONE could form a phalanx, we are therefore always at war with everyone (was that Eurasia, or Eastasia?). So we spy on the entire world and potentially will fight anywhere in the world, including in allied countries, if some people there learn this tactic. And ironically, it is a tactic that we ourselves will use when convenient. When a drone fires a missile into an open air market, and then fires another one when the medics arrive, that's terrorism. War is the terrorism of the rich and powerful, and terrorism is the war of the poor and powerless. So essentially we are engaging in a "war against war". Orwellian and hypocritical.

 

No more undeclared wars. I don't want to finance them or be otherwise responsible for them. I sure as hell don't want to go fight one.

I'm sick and tired of Empire USA and its global shenanigans.

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Aye. Americans are terrorising themselves now, whether that's government doing so or our fellow sh*tizens.

 

says it all.