You make the word victim sound like a dirty word. When women were raped and when women were sexually abused and had very little recourse we were indeed victims. I have yet to meet a woman who has not had some unwanted sexual harassment. My daughter was raped at 15 and I was sexually assaulted in my 20s. Women didn’t report their assaults because we were powerless. The me too move,Met has empowered us and we don’t have to subject ourselves to not being believed....we learned we are not alone, What I am finding most interesting here is that you see yourself as the victim. You see yourself as a victim of women just lying about sexual harassment. But it happens to millions of women we know it’s true. You act as though it is a surprise. Just look at your president how he would grab ******* because he thought they let them. He walked into teenage girls locker rooms because it could and the girls were powerless.
No, you’re not auch a great feminist if you think women didn’t need help from laws. It just shows you have no idea about sexism before these laws. You sound exactly like trump. Yes you are less sexist than any feminist like trump is the least racist president in history....
That’s what happens when there’s white male privilege and they have opportunities. Things are changing if you take the time to Google you will see all the women scientists and doctors making advances as well as journalists and artists and writers. when a group is limited from opportunities it’s kind of hard to be equal..
I am not a Feminist. At least not in the conventional sense. However, the essentials of my life philosophy are self-ownership, equality of oppurtunity and liberty. There used to be laws prohibiting women from entering certain fields and that is of course appalling (although it is important to understand that from its own historical context) and not at all comperable to what contemporary Feminists are doing, which is advocating for legislation that force certain spheres to welcome women even though the woman herself - obviously - does not want that and the sphere in question - obviously - does not need nor want it. I'm actually very Liberal (in the classical sense), so comparing me to Trump makes little sense. Good for you.
Men do seem to have a unique quality that leads to invention. Most patents are held by men, and they still are today. I've made a living developing new technology. A good part of what I do for a living is invent things. And I have met many people like myself - creative, highly driven, with almost a inborn addiction to invention. Most true inventors really can't help themselves. They would go nuts if they couldn't do what they do. In all my years, I've never met a woman who has the invention bug; an idea here or there, sure, but not that inescapable drive that keeps you up for days with hardly any food or sleep. And this isn't something that is taught. You are born with it. There are surely exceptions to the rule, but one sure sign that an inventor is serious is that his wife left him long ago. Women just don't get it. Before he found a filament that worked and made possible the first electric light bulb, Edison tried over 10,000 different materials.
Do you think part of it was that women were discouraged? Do you think having engineering colleges exclusively for men had something to do with it? They could’ve said the same thing about women lawyers and they could’ve said the same thing about women doctors but now the engineering schools and architecture schools and medical school and law schools have as many women as men. I guess it was just a latent gene since you believe that women weren’t born with this ability I have to laugh that in your life you never met a woman who had the invention bug. You are indoctrinated well, the same way women were When women went to school they didn’t take electrical shop a woodshop or any shops that “could invent”. They took cooking and sewing but the chefs who were paid well we’re men . Let’s see the next generation. We’re seeing female CEOs that we didn’t see before. We are seeing females inroles they were discouraged from. Science and math were for boys....no more., I sure hope you don’t have daughters
You are not a feminist you say, that means you don’t believe in equal rights for women. That’s the definition of a feminist nothing more and nothing less. You seem to be upset that women are being “forced into certain spheres “ that women don’t want. Can you be specific? You’re as liberal as I am conservative
What do you mean by "equal rights"? Feminists believe that all that makes a woman is her gender. They see no room for merit, individual variation and other hierarchies. This leaves them in a position where they, for example, will argue Hillary should be President, not because of her policies, competence and leadership, but only because "It is time we see a woman in office!" They will argue a Black woman should get a job over a White man not because she has better competence, but because "she is Black and Female". Feminists are pushing all kinds of insane quotas because they are Radical Collectivists who believe Renee is a good poster not because she is calm, composed and argues in a civilised and intellectual manner, but only because she is a she. I personally find this inherently sexist and highly demeaning. I know. You are neither - You're a Marxist.
If you have to ask what equal rights mean, then it’s hopeless. Your sexism is so blatant how you stereotype women, Do you really think that we feel that women who are not Competent should get jobs? Your conclusion is so misogynistic. I guess you were OK with white male affirmative action for hundreds of years. Sounds to me like you have the reverse argument that a woman should not get a job strictly because she is a she
Being a victim is supposed to be a bad thing. It shouldn't be empowering or a career opportunity. Something bad happened to you and it has hurt you. Thats what its supposed to mean, not that something bad happened but it barely effected you negatively and instead gave you a windfall of public sympathy, social power and job opportunities. It should never be a good thing to be a victim, but in today's society the positives of being the victim of something minor (or fabricated) vastly outweigh the negatives. Are you trying to use your victimhood to win this argument? Im sure you're completely aware that anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. Your experience and your daughter's experience are not all women's experiences. Not even the most grim statistics suggest that every woman alive has been the victim of sexual assault. And in today's society, the way feminists slant things, the question of whether or not a woman has been subject to "unwanted sexual harassment" is virtually meaningless. In a time when feminists are telling men not to dare to have the gall to ask women out, and telling women that when a pass is made at them by a guy they don't like it counts as sexual harassment its no wonder you can get away with a question based on whether or not a woman has experienced "unwanted sexual harassment". Unless they live literally in total isolation, they cant avoid it the way feminism defines it. You didn't need the metoo movement to learn that you aren't alone. Thats not what the metoo movement is for. You already knew you weren't alone. The metoo movement is for character assassination and the propagation of feminist ideology. Every time a new accusation comes out, feminists are basically saying "see? we were right all along!". No heed is paid towards the veracity of the accusations because the truth isn't important. What is important is the promotion of feminism. No I see other men as the victim of women lying about sexual harassment. Specifically, the ones who have had their lives and careers trashed by accusations that nobody seems interested in proving true. I'm not nearly important or prominent enough to be a valid target for the metoo movement. I am not acting like its a surprise. You aren't even really talking to me anymore are you? You're just venting against some imaginary foe. Again, anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. Donald Trump is a reprehensible human being. If you base your view of sexual misconduct using him as an average its no wonder you see rapists in every shadow and are ready to believe that all women everywhere have been and continue to be victims of sexual misconduct on a regular basis. Just because Donald Trump, of all people, did something doesn't mean everyone else who also has a penis did what the metoo movement says they did. EVIDENCE. PROOF. I REQUIRE THEM BEFORE I CAN APPROVE OF THE DESTRUCTION OF SOMEONES LIFE. If you don't require them, then you out yourself as someone who doesn't give a **** about reality as long as it serves your agenda. That sounds dangerously close to the ideology of a Trump supporter.
It actually is a very important question for this debate to proceed. Roughly speaking, there are two types of rights negative rights and positive rights and my stance on "equal rights" is entirely dependent on which of the rwo we are talking about. Furthermore, the word "equal" is another ambigious one that needs clarification and finally, we also have to stort out if we are talking about outcome or oppurtunity. Yes. To me it is pretty damn obvious that Feminists only see women as women and not as the individuals they are. I see Feminism as not only anti-individualistic, but also as misogynistic for the reason that they think a woman is nothing but a woman. Feminists share many traits with Nazis. What the f-k are you talking about?
Look, being a victim of sexual abuse and Rape as I was at Age 9, does not make you something bad, I struggled with thinking I had deserved it somehow. My innocence was ripped away. Hence, why I became a Feminist, because Men do that to Women all the time. But I'll be Damned if some azzwipe is going to put me down because a criminal hurt me. Only a Rapist thinks that way.
First let’s start with a lesson.. victim is a real word and you’re ascribing your own definition . a (1) : one that is injured, destroyed, or sacrificed under any of various conditions a victim of cancer a victim of the autocrash a murder victim (2) : one that is subjected to oppression, hardship, or mistreatment a frequent victim of political attacks you are playing with semantics. ..you’re making the word victim mean weakness or something like that. If someone got shot s/he was up a victim of a shooter.You are making the word victim into something it isn’t. Someone who is murdered is a victim of murder. Someone who is lynched is a victim of prejudice. A kid Beaten up is a victim of bullies. A battered wife is a victim of an abuser etc. that’s reality. You are correct not every woman is a victim of sexual abuse but one in four is too many. And you are correct that I didn’t need the me too movement to show me I wasn’t alone, I didn’t need the woman’s movement to show me I was being discriminated against either. What you don’t seem to understand is the dynamics of power in numbers. Women felt isolated, not believed, blamed and now we have come to realize that it is epidemic and we are taken seriously. You may not think the movement was important, I know it was. Being at the woman’s rally Invigorated and empowered women. That is why there are more women running for office than ever in our history and it didn’t just happen in a vacuum. Who are all these men who have their careers destroyed because of all these lying women? Why don’t they get a movement going? You like to believe that women are liars, when in fact the number of Rape victims and sexual assault victims is astronomical. I am sure there are some who lie the same way there are some who set fire to their houses for insurance etc. tell me all these men that you are referring to And please stop being that extremist. No one is saying all men these things..If you think that’s what the #me too movement is saying then I think you have some Irrational fears. Just think a couple of years ago you would not have had the victims,, yes victims, of Weinstein or Bill Cosby and trump be believed. I just hope you don’t have daughters
I still remember the boy next to me who had lesser grades got into Stuyvesant. Brooklyn tech was also boys Where did you live in Brooklyn?
What do you mean the feminists only see women as women and not as individuals? That is as silly as saying Christianity only sees Christians as people but not individuals. That is the most ridiculous conclusion Feminism is about women. When the feminist movement fought for women’s right to an abortion, it was about individual women wanting it. When feminism fought for Married women to get Credit in their own names it was about individual women. What you are saying makes absolutely no sense and it is a very telling sentence when you say they think “a woman is nothing but a woman” what is wrong with being a woman. Once you said women have many trades with Nazis I know where you stand. You are threatened by women and it just reeks.
And I am sure when it happened to you you felt you would not be believed and your reaction of thinking you deserved it unfortunately is what so many victims of sexual assault think. Thank goodness that is changing. Hope you got some good counseling.I am so sorry that happened to you
Yes that !!!! Only a Woman understands such things ! Men can't. I wisely looked for council from Women I knew, even at that age, Men were too disgusting to look to for help.
A few Women I knew helped me. I was lucky for that. Rape survivors and councillors. Hence why I am a Feminist as I uphold all Women's Rights.
OMG ! Lenny's PIZZA ! With a huge picture of John Travolta, Saturday Night Fever, I was in High School during the filming. Bensonhurst and Bayridge ! Verazanno bridge ! Staten Island on the other side, I grew up within walking distance of the bridge, my run started at the mall off Bay parkway at the water's edge, past the bridge, to the 69th street pier and back, over 5 miles and run quickly.
It is not a ridiculous conclusion at all. From a philosophocal point of view, Feminism is a collectivist idea that rests on the Matrxist premise that society is based on a conflict between men and women. In this, it lumps all women into one and the same entity and draws the conclusion that "women" (as a group) is oppressed by "men" (as a group). They claim "women" have no agency because of evil strucures put up by the evil force of "Patriarchy" and proposed solutions are rigorous identity politics that should help "women" "fight the oppression". This indirectly means setting all individual variation aside in favour of the group. In short; Feminism is a collectivist thought. The whole concept of Feminism is rooted in the idea that groups with varying physical attributes are in constant conflict with one and other and that is an idea I detest. There is nothing wrong with being a woman and that is my point. Feminism, however, thinks there is and that is why it suggests a woman can.only become a CEO with the help of government. Where did I say that women share traits with Nazis?
