My immune system SWAT team response to the 2nd Pfizer vaccine dose

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The following is ANECDOTAL however I am sharing it since it is similar to what others have experienced.

    If you were never exposed to the Covid virus prior to your original vaccination the effects are mild. After my 1st jab I felt a slight wooziness that didn't last long and the most significant of my reactions was a short period of diarrhea which is one of the more common ones if you do experience any reaction at all.

    Many people have reported more severe symptoms following the 2nd shot and this is what I experienced personally.

    The jab and the immediate waiting period afterwards were essentially nothing. Since I was at the local mall I did some shopping and then went home. I chatted with my neighbor who had accepted a parcel for me in my absence (both of us wearing masks) and then returned home. At that point I started feeling woozy again so I made some lunch and went to sit down and relax.

    I started to feel as though I was coming down with something and eventually it became bad enough for me to go and lie down. At this stage my body was feeling aches and I needed to sleep. About 3 hours later I woke up thirsty. I drank some water and realized that I was back to almost normal again. I was healthy enough to get up and go about my usual evening routine. I did go to bed later than normal because of the sleep earlier but I woke up at my usual time.

    My body is in recovery mode and probably rebuilding the immune resources that were depleted yesterday.

    In essence the best way to describe this experience is in the title. The initial vaccination had alerted my immune system to the threat of the Covid virus and my body had built up sufficient resources to recognize it as a threat. When the 2nd jab triggered the alarm my immune system went into full SWAT team response and threw everything it had at it and shut it down in less than 10 hours elapsed time.

    So the vaccinations work and the short term effects are no worse than some discomfort. Given that I am 69 I am glad that I have been vaccinated and know that I now have an immune system that is in working order gives me some peace of mind that has been missing ever since this Pandemic began. I now have that additional layer of protection should masks and social distancing and sanitation fail. I am still vulnerable to the Delta and other mutations but I am self assured now that my body will be able to deal with those mutations.

    I am not magnetic, I do not have a microchip inside of me and I don't believe in any of the conspiracy drivel.

    Instead I have trusted the SCIENCE and I am NOW in a significantly BETTER position to handle the balance of the pandemic and I am able to move forward with my life.

    It is good feeling to know that I now have my own personal anti-Covid SWAT team in my immune system.

    If you haven't been vaccinated yet I highly recommend that you do so ASAP.

    If you would like to share your own personal experiences with the vaccinations please feel free to use this thread.

    Take care and stay safe.
    DT
     
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    I had a slight reaction to both of my shots as well. They didn't last long, and the good side of that is it means the body is reacting as it should.

    And I did spend some time trying to stick metal objects on myself. Nothing. So then I tried a mind-meld with my computer. I put a wifi card in my armpit and laid down on the couch to see if I could connect. There may be something to that because I did go into sleep mode for a little while. Then I asked my son to see if he could track me. Couldn't find the signal. Later, my son got stopped at the airport by the TSA. They're claiming it was a belt buckle, but we think it might also have had something to do with the nano-Gaters from the shots. Of course, it could be that we're just a software update away from going full zombie. Or it could be that Gates was just selling snake oil technology.

    Ok, so maybe I had a slightly longer reaction period because I'm still talking about it.

    Stay safe and don't spread this stuff around.
     
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    Thank you for sharing.
     
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    I'm glad you've got your SWAT team immune system and are recovering. I'm happy for you to now have some peace of mind about the virus.

    Stay safe. Stay well!
     
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    Yes, those nano robots can create some serious havoc. Hopefully, they aren't too controlling!
     
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    Slightly sore arm for a day - maybe a little tired, no other reaction - other than a glowing third eye in the back of my head.
    All good.
     
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    Guess you haven't heard. While the vaccines greatly decrease your risk of hospitalization and death, the Pfizer vaccine is only 42% effective against the Delta variant, which is the main one spreading right now. So, you have a 58% chance of still getting sick from Delta and many of those actually get very sick. Maybe not enough to be hospitalized or die from it, but still sick. So, if you think you are out of the woods because of the vaccine, think again. The science shows that Pfizer is only 42% effective against Delta and you will still get sick. Your SWAT team is nothing more than your average 300 pound security guard.
     
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    The first jab of the Moderna vaccine had no effect on me. The second one caused me to feel a bit achy and tired the following day, but that was it.

    But last month I caught Covid. I'm 66, and I was sick for only 2 days: fever and chills on the first day, some sinus congestion and achiness the second day. By the third day, the sinuses were starting to clear, and by the 5th day I couldn't tell that I had been sick. During those first few days I took a couple doses of Tylenol, a couple doses of a sinus cold decongestant, and a couple squirts of Afrin. That's it. No prescription meds, no hospitalization, no lung infection. Other than going to the doctor to get tested, I received no medical care.

    Was the vaccination worth it? I'd say so.

    Oh, and my wife is also fully vaccinated, and she didn't even get it. She tested negative. Nobody who was around me before I knew I was sick became infected. It would seem that, not only was the illness short-lived, I wasn't much of a spreader either.
     
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    I also got Pfizer, slightly sore are, nothing big, got first dose in March, second in April

    I will say to the slight wooziness, few years ago I went in to get stitches removed and had slight wooziness right as she was pulling the first stitch out, embarrassing, felt like was gonna pass out, she had me lay down while finished, weird what the body can do to us when stressed, I was fine getting stitches, having them, but one being removed had that effect... ;)
     
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    says 88% in this study

    "Study: Pfizer vaccine 88 percent effective against delta variant"

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...nt-effective-against-delta-variant/ar-AAMro79
     
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    maybe this is what you meant

    "Pfizer's vaccine may be less effective against the Delta variant, study suggests, even though vaccines help prevent serious illness or death"

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...illness-remained-strong-study-says/ar-AANeON9

    I consider it effective if it helps prevents serious illness and death
     
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    Did they tell you which virus you had? I tested positive in November so the variants hadn't got in the door yet. I'm wondering about this because I don't understand how they will know how effective one's natural immunity would stand up (compared to being vaccinated and receiving a booster at some point). I saw recently that some people have become infected again but now your post makes me wonder if they had the SAME virus both times.

    I'm glad you got through it without too much trouble and everyone in your environment has remained well.
     
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    Has anyone figured out they're terrorizing people with the common cold which there's no cure for yet?
     
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    they both protect you from hospitalization and death, that is what counts

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...illness-remained-strong-study-says/ar-AANeON9

    "Among patients older than 60, the odds of a positive test were almost three times higher when at least 146 days had passed since the second dose."

    that is just luck of the draw, as anyone vaccinated with any vaccine can have a positive test, no vaccine stops you from getting the virus, all vaccines do is help train your immune system to fight it off

    the thing that counts is how sick you get and how fast your able to fight it off
     
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    No. I asked, and what they told me is that the lab that tests for positive/negative is not the same lab that tests for variants. My test sample is sent off to the second lab for that typing, but the result is not reported back to my medical provider. I’m sure it was delta though based upon how fast it raced through the group I was working with, getting over 25% of us sick all at the same time.
     
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    Hold on a minute here. That's only about 4.5 months. I thought the efficacy was a little longer than that. Wasn't it 7-8 months just a few weeks ago?
     
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    I'm glad you're okay.
     
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    not for catching it, that is all this report showed, you could get fully vaccinated and then the next month test positive, the vaccine only helps train your immune system to fight it off once you do get it, it does not prevent you from catching the virus
     
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    I understand its function. Trump told George Stephanopoulos "it will go away WITHOUT the vaccine.". We know he's not a doctor, scientist or immunologist so, thankfully, the manufacturers continued their productions. ;-)

    I will have to go back and look at those earlier posts on the subject but IIRC I thought it was said the vaccine was a one-time deal, then it became they didn't know the actual range for how long it would remain effective, and, now, because of the variants, some people will need the boosters. I was just startled reading about the 146 days because that seems considerably shorter than the "average" expectation of what we were told.
     
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    yes, they say we might need a booster like with other vaccines

    they are thinking the variants will still be covered due to it attacking the spikes, but no guarantees

    now they could learn to replicate faster, and such and in that case be harder to fight, but the vaccine would still be effective

    nurses and such that are overworked, sleep deprived, stressed, and constantly exposed, literally are having their bodies fight the covid battle over and over and over and over every time they are exposed, at some point, they could lose a battle
     
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    My entire family have had Pfizer, and none of us experienced any reaction (beyond a sore arm - which happens with many vaccines) at all ... and we range in ages from 19 to 56 - all very fit and well.

    I've spent a lot of time talking to medical colleagues and coalface experts about this. A reaction isn't an indication that your immune system is 'better'. Some elderly people have a stronger reaction than 20 year olds. Having said that, people who have a reaction to the vax are probably those who would have had a more severe case of COVID (because their bodies 'overreact'), so it's a plus in that sense.
     
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    The left said that if 100% of people were vaccinated, Covid would go away due to herd immunity. Now we know that was not true because if 100% were vaccinated the disease would still be spreading. Therefore, having vaccine passports and having places who only admit in the vaccinated are not necessary because the vaccinated spread the virus just as much as the unvaccinated.
     
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    if 100% were vaccinated, it would not be an issue except for a handful like other virus's that are under control

    there will always be people with a compromised immune system.... that lose the battle

    if 100% were vaccinated, the spread would slow and eventually die out for the most part, but we will never see 100% vaccination, so we will never know
     
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