Nature says global warming is real

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by mdrobster, Mar 11, 2013.

  1. _Inquisitor_

    _Inquisitor_ Well-Known Member

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    You forgot irrigation of desert, putting down world fires, stopping erosion etc etc etc. Seems quite minuscule things you are talking about. Really so much ado about nothing. I wonder who in your mind is burning forests for agriculture?
     
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    Slash and burn agriculture has been around for quite some time. Many square miles (or kilometers if you prefer) are burned in the Amazon basin every day. They burn the forest to make grazing land for cattle. They also log a lot of it. In 2003 they burnt an area the size of the State of New Jersey....5.9 million acres or 2.38 million hectacres.

    Thats a lot of greenhouse gasses.
     
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    I may be interested in links, what would be thier economic reason, also I wonder how much of CO2 would be released by wild fires and brush fires without interference of the evil man. have you even seen infared photograph of the globe with wild fires? Look.
     
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    My computer is slow and does not post links very well... and why should I bother? You can get the information from google if you were interested and I know you are not....you would just come up with some cockamainy story on how satelight images are wrong and you are right.

    I bet you search the internet trying to find any opinion that agrees with yours and bypass any that disagree....even if it makes common sense.
     
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    Oh! Dear! Someone who did not think outside America when they posted a reply!

    Global warming is a global problem caused by global actions - so burning of forests might be a small issue in North America but is it such a small issue in Brazil?

    And yes I think most would consider 83 million barrels of oil per day every day to be a significant contribution
     
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    I GUESS, YOU HAVE BEEN KEEPING THE NUMBERS IN YOUR HEAD… OR ON A PIECE OF PAPER WHICH WAS AT HAND right at the moment.. BY A MIRACLE… LOL



    No links, but a usual petty personal attack. Lol.
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    I was just trying to have a conversation. Warmists are not interested in having a conversation. I thought we had a common ground and a common agenda to push, and you and I agreed that the safest and the least expensive and even a profitable action should be growing trees, global warming or cooling.


    You have lost you bet. Pay with your computer.
     
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    Sweetheart, why don’t you try to read posts you quote… unless you were intending to post the above as a reply to somebody else.

    If it is not the case:

    I never was pointing to burning of forests. I've been maintaining that the fact is that there is no links to burning of forests in my attempt to have a conversation with another poster. There is no such thing as burning of forests in my post you quoted. That’s why I have to think that you were intending to reply to somebody else or to your own misperception of the reality.

    I specifically pointed to wild fires and brush fired photographed globally by satellites. I asked to compare these documents to photographs of burning 83 million barrels of oil per day every day.

    I never argued that “most” would not consider 83 million barrels of oil per day every day to be a significant contribution. It is the opposite, I know they do. “Most” calling themselves overwhelming majority of the scientific community are atheists. They have no moral, no reference point. That’s why overwhelming majorities of the scientific use scales of 0.1C on Y axis and 1,000 years on X axis. They are appealing to animal instincts atheists are driven by.

    Even according the fair tale atheists believe in, trees, algae and other greens absorbed CO2 from the atmosphere, grew, died and turned into coal and oil. All the evil man is doing is releasing to the atmosphere in an intelligent way what was taken from it, while reducing wild, unintelligent fires.

    83 million barrels of oil per day every day is a minuscule
    amount in the scale of the Earthh and its atmosphere. Please understand, sweetheart, you have to put numbers into a perspective, in a scale, you have to have a point of reference, point away from your animal instincts. That’s why here in America we still say “In God we trust”, we have this reference point, we claim that we are not animals, but we have intelligence and the spirit of a man, the special creation of God. America was never designed as a capitalist society. The FFs were not capitalists and there is nothing about capitalism in the founding documents. And of course, America was never designed as a socialist society. It is not capitalism vs. socialism. The both are from devil and an invention of devil. America is all about continuous fight for liberty, freedom of the human spirit which is from God continuously overcoming animal instincts which are from devil.
     
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    You are missing the point. Nobody "knows" exactly what causes the climate to change. Scientist still can't figure out why some mega volcano events in the past tipped us into an ice age while others warmed us.
     
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    I'd always be careful when dealing with volcanoes they are the warmmonger catch all for events that they cannot explain. For instance their models blame massive cooling during the little ice age on volcanoes but when you apply those models to the eruptions of the 20th century those models say that we should have had a cooling similar to the little ice age.

    Volcanoes have been so abused by both sides that it is hard to know exactly which way is up, what is real and what is made up to serve a narrative.
     

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