Nature says global warming is real

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  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

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    And your post demonstrates the reasoning of a 5 year-old. "It's still snowing so how can it be getting warmer", is about the limit of your argument.
     
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    It appears that Mörner is about the only who agrees with his views, including his own institution.

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/Nils-Axel-Morner-wrong-about-sea-level-rise.html


    To sum things up, this "expert" is a known denier and conspiracy theorist who refuses to see the facts right in front of him. The ultimate irony being that he accused others of falsifying data while being caught doctoring photographs himself.

    But something tells me that no matter how much evidence to the contrary, you will still believe him instead of the facts.
     
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    Yes, more extraordinary insight. It's cold, therefore there's no global warming. It's actually snowing down here in the usually mild South West, therefore I conclude global warming is a hoax.

    (Edited for sarcasm)
     
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    I've said this before and I'll say it again now; there's a certain segment of the conservative electorate who are convinced that anything the opposition says or does, is designed with the sole intention of seperating them from their cash. Few will admit it, but it's evident from their laughably inept counter-arguments that they really are not at all interested in the science behind AGW, and that the fear of their money being taken is their only motivator.
     
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    Wow, so the deniers are really going to go with "global warming is good" now? Apparently they think that the only effect of climate change is warmer temperatures that will keep them pleasantly warmer in the winter months.

    Since so many of you have spent an extraordinary amount of time and effort pretending climate change isn't real, perhaps it's time to play catch up.

    http://www.education.noaa.gov/Climate/Climate_Change_Impacts.html
    http://climate.nasa.gov/effects
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-positives-negatives-advanced.htm

    Unless you think that large scale droughts, decreased biodiversity, exhausted fisheries, and oceans of acid are a good thing?
     
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    BroncoBilly Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Better get used to it, because it is a fact that humans won't be able to do a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing thing about it.

    BTW robby, no one I know denies that it is happening, nature is funny that way, don't you think?
     
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    That is certainly in no way a fact. Drastically reducing CO2 emissions, ocean pollution, over-fishing, deforestation, ect could reduce the rate of increase of climate change.

    There is potential reduce the effects over time, if we put serious efforts into reforesting and cleaning up the oceans.

    Saying there is nothing we could do about it is just an excuse to keep steamrolling on the way we are without changing a thing. It's also a huge (*)(*)(*)(*)ing lie.
     
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    Be careful what you wish for and its not nice to tease mother nature.

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    Go tell the trees growing in the land once known as the tundra that the earth isn't warming.
     
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    I guess those trees are mistaken, there are growing where they shouldn't, maybe some liberals planted them there.

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    I guess those trees are mistaken, there are growing where they shouldn't, maybe some liberals planted them there.
     
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    Did humans do anything about the man-made hole in the ozone layer? Why yes, in fact we did... http://www.epa.gov/ozone/intpol/
    http://www.theozonehole.com/ozoneholehistory.htm
     
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    Bill, go ahead and do nothing, but making a smaller ecological footprint is sound business, sets lower operating costs. No matter how hard you try to deny it, that is the future. A few decades ago, recycling was considered an obtuse plan, now it is a job creator.
     
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    Nope, no lie, you're guessing
     
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    If i'm guessing, so are you. Which still has your statement as in no way a fact.

    The difference is that my "guess" is backed by massive amounts of scientific data.
     
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    Human caused CO2 emissions account for about .00002322 atmospheric CO2, at a HIGH END estimate.

    A mere .06 (6%) of the current claimed TOTAL atmospheric CO2 concentration of 387 ppm , or .000387.

    Removing .00002322 of the total CO2 level will accomplish...what, exactly?
     
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    You have ignored every attempt anyone has made to tell you how CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere work. If you would like to go back in this thread there are probably several explanations that would answer your inquiries.
     
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    Stop with your denial bull(*)(*)(*)(*). What is it with all you liberals, I am not denying anything, only you will not be able to stop it. We need to be good stewards of the planet, but stopping any climate change is absolute bull(*)(*)(*)(*). You climate-istas use global warming as a political excuse to fund third world countries who are run by despots just taking the funds given to them, we have been doing that goofy (*)(*)(*)(*) for decades. You would think you liberals would have learned by now.
     
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    But my guessing isn't going to fund despots killing their own people and trying to destroy us, your guess is.

    You have no scientific data that says we can reverse or change our climate.
     
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    You can read, can't you?
     
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    Yes I can.

    Researchers from Cambridge University reported in April that ozone depletion had not started to improve despite international action. Their comments were based on studies carried out since May last year. Hodgson said he would be cautious about making such a forceful statement, based on one year’s observations, given the variability in the stratosphere’s weather. But his report does emphasise that “the protective ozone layer remains under threat”. It warns: “The ozone ‘holes’ that appear annually at the polar regions are still large and long-lived; the possibility that climate change may bring conditions likely to cause even greater ozone loss is a contemporary danger.”

    Read more at: http://phys.org/news4533.html#jCp
     
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    That's just a ridiculous accusation about reigning over other nations. Now for the reading on the term denial, was used to illustrate that the world is moving to making less of an ecological footprint, that you seem to deny it will happen when you claim nothing will be done.
     
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    No I haven't. I just realize that complete speculaiton, ignoring the fact that there is not enough total CO2 ANYWHERE in the atmosphere (or above) to cause any kind pf signifcant effect, is just more unprovable Warmist bullcrap.\

    If you have the minutes of the verifiable chemical test, done in a lab, with a control, PROVING the thermal effects of less than 400 ppm CO2 ..let's see them.

    Otherwise, spare me your bullcrap, please.
     
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    Please explain why you can't read "It [NASA] concludes that about half the recent trend is due to CFC reductions".
     

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