New Details Emerge About Coronavirus Research at Chinese Lab

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  1. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your are over-analyzing. My comment was borne of someone else, blaming Biden, of all people (and the country's Democrats, of course, for electing him), w/ the assumption that Biden will be a force against investigation of, what the poster has already assumed has been, Dr. Fauci's criminal conduct.
    Here's his post:

    AmericanNationalist said:
    Unfortunately, Dem voters in 2020 put their party in charge, which has no interest in finding out the truth of the coronavirus and more
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    So I merely pointed out that, if he was looking to lay some blame on a chief executive, there is, especially at this juncture, a much more appropriate President to take to task, for not having well attended to his task.

    DEFinning said:
    You realize that this funding took place when Trump was president, right? It has been speculated that it happened then, because it was a safe bet that the incompetents that Trump put in, to run things out of the White House, would be too clueless to realize it had occurred.

    It was the previous, Obama Administration which had put a pause on this type of research (gain of function); and it stayed paused, as long as he was in office. By the time Biden came in, of course, Covid-19 was already a reality.

    So which is more important, researching how a totally f'd up thing happened, or not letting it happen, in the first place?

    Assuming your answer passes the minimum intelligence quiz, above, you should now see that your own post should have read, "Unfortunately, Republican voters in 2016 put their party in charge, including of an Executive Branch that had no interest in professionally running the government or even being organized enough to be aware of what was going on, within their agencies."

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    So this has nothing to do with holding a President accountable, in a legal sense, as you suggest. This was simply answering a completely uncalled-for, partisan attack, which was without any basis, with what the facts say about who is more culpable, in this situation, if that's where he wants to go with this.

    The other member actually did not realize that his smartest move, at that point, was just to stop casting partisan aspersions, so he retorted:

    AmericanNationalist said:
    Wait, so we're blaming Trump for Fauci breaking the law? That's not how this works,
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    And I then explained to him how the chain of command/responsibility works, the post which you mistakenly took for me, appropriate of nothing but the OP, trying to make this all about Trump. You are misreading it's context, which is as a response to someone trying to make this about Biden & Democrats. Now that you have the full context, I hope you will see the wisdom of dropping this angle.
     
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  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that one is easy, change the government's dietary recommendations, high carb\low fat diets are causing the obesity crisis

    all those carbs raise insulin, insulin is the fat storage hormone, common sense folks
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    Because Biden was the one who shut down the Trump investigation that believed the Virus originated in Wuhan labs and the next day announced his new investigation of the same matter that couldnt make a determination.
     
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    I didn't hear any of this. Can you provide a link, please?
     
  5. Polydectes

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    The worst crime of all is he is incompetent. He has been proven to be incompetent for the last 20 years at least.
     
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    Aren't dietary standards were created by people who go to medical school particularly nutritionists. It has been this way for at least 70 years probably longer. The problem is these people who went to medical school 70 years ago were part of a religious group called Seventh-Day Adventists. You can still see the connection between seventh day Adventists and medical schools to this day.

    As part of the seventh-day Adventist teaching there is a religious idea that people should be vegetarians. Our species is not vegetarian it is carnivore.

    This is a good indication of how the science can be polluted by the people who produce it. They want everybody eating grain all the time because eating meat is against the religion.

    If you want to see how deep this rabbit hole goes you'll look into this connection between nutrition and Seventh-Day Adventists. For a good laugh and a good thing to remind you you live in better times looking to the namesake for Kellogg and graham crackers.

    These fruit loops are considered scientists.
     
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    yep, they thought meat increased sex drive and pushed more grains as that killed sex drive

    some well known vegans talk about getting their sex drive back after going keto, cause their hormones go back to normal - so may be some truth to that
     
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    So you see how a belief system can impact so called science.
     
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    the gov did not wait for the science was the problem, they let religious nuts rule the day

    but yes, bias can play a role in science or should I say how it's interpreted

    there was a debate, sugar or fat.... but our government did not wait for the truth, they wanted to push grains as it was better in their eyes for corporations
     
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    you don't understand this wasn't some religious group that was trying to control science this was the medical profession

    It was the science at the time. And it's not different now just because the government injects their interest into it if anything that makes it less reliable
     
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    it was religious nuts as well, agree some people like Ancel Keys manipulated the evidence to get the results he wanted
     
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    No, it isn't. Japan is a modern country with an obesity rate around 4%. The US has an obesity rate around ten times that. It's because many Americans eat too much garbage and exercise too little. That is not a "complex" problem. What's more, the solution (eating better and exercising more) doesn't carry with it the massive risk of engineering viruses.
     
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    If you really think a poorly fitted, thin piece of cloth on your face is going to stop a virus from infecting you, then you will believe anything.
     
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    https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/85/2/346/4649515

    Not easy.
     
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    I'm not "medicating" with anything because I'm not sick. I don't get sick because I take care of my health. I have no fear of this overblown cold virus. If you want to hide and shiver under your blanket while you suck your thumb, then go right ahead. I am just going to behave normally like I always have. If you don't like it, please know that I do not give two sh*ts what you like.
     
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    I see you like making things up.

    If you really think I said that you need comprehension training.

    Don't bother addressing what I actually wrote, seeing how you think masks are mind control devices. Apparently, they are. Know what ahm sain?
     
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    Losing weight is not easy, but it is simple. If you work hard enough, you will lose weight. I've seen this happen with my own eyes both as an athlete and a member of the military. Put any obese person into marine corps boot camp and three months later they will not be obese anymore.
     
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    You're a mask Nazi. That's all anyone needs to know.
     
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    It's so easy that the COVID police have placed virtually zero emphasis on it since this all began. Instead, they just want everyone to wear stupid masks and inject themselves like cattle.
     
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    Lol. I always wanted to be a mask Nazi. I'll bet you're an internet ninja. Ninjas are pantywaists.
     
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    I'll take that bet if I can pick the obese person.
     
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    corporations do not what you to eat healthy, Obama tried to push this, then backed down, neither dems or repubs gonna tell you the truth

    eat less, move more, is all you will get from the government as that is what the corps want them to say
     
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    If we made that bet millions of times, you'd lose 99% of the time.
     
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    https://www.wihealthatlas.org/obesity/age

    Look at those demographics. The obese aren't all 18 year old Marines. If you think a training routine appropriate for a teenager will work on a 55 year old, you're not qualified to be a trainer. It would more likely kill them, than heal them.
     

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