NM Militia Detains 300 Illegals at Border

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  1. altmiddle

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    well regulated militia... as in regulated by the state I would think.

    Not operating anonymously, and independent of the state and any regulatory body.

    Not a bunch of people in masks pretending to be cops either.
     
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    So you are guaranteeing that each and every one of these people had legitimate asylum claims and would.never commit a crime?
     
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    Democrats and Republicans need to fix the immigration crisis at the border.

    What we don't need is a group of people taking the law into their own hands and pretending to be the border patrol.
     
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    They aren't authorized to kill.

    They are authorized to defend themselves.

    Lots of criminals/cartels operating down there with big weapons.
     
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    So if one the illegals refuses to be detained, can they shoot then?
     
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    Wrong.
     
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    Only if their lives are in danger.

    Those guns are there for protection from coyotes (human smugglers) and the cartels.
     
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    So if the illegals told them to go screw themselves, could they then proceed with their invasion?
     
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    elaborate please

    What does well regulated mean if not regulated by law or a governing body?

    Is Batman a militia? or is he a vigilante?
     
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    Good question, one that has been asked and answered long ago-but its an important question.

    “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,”

    Things to look at:

    1. well regulated. This one trips up anti-gun types. This does NOT mean government regulations, it simply means that it works as expected. Disciplined, and well armed are basically what “well regulated” means. It was a common term at the time of the writing, and as such, is easy to interpret.
    2. Militia. A militia is NOT the national guard. A militia is a group of non-professional soldiers. Militias are comprised of the people.
    3. being necessary to the security of a free state. This is why the Militia must be able to exist. The security of a free state is vulnerable to threats both foreign and domestic. A militia, specifically a well regulated one, is needed to keep that state free.
     
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    In immigration law, aggravated felony is defined far more broadly than in most state's criminal laws. Section 101(a)(43) of the Immigration and Nationality Act:

    (A) murder, rape, or sexual abuse of a minor
    (B) illicit trafficking in a controlled substance
    (C) illicit trafficking in firearms or destructive devices or in explosive materials
    (D) money laundering or engaging in monetary transactions in property derived from specific unlawful activity if the amount of the funds exceeded $10,000
    (E) certain explosive materials or firearms offenses
    (F) a crime of violence (not including a purely political offense) for which the term of imprisonment at least one year
    (G) theft (including receipt of stolen property) or burglary if the term of imprisonment was at least one year
    (H) kidnapping or making a demand for or receipt of ransom
    (I) child pornography
    (J) racketeering, or gambling if a sentence of one year imprisonment or more could have been imposed
    (K) owning, controlling, managing, or supervising a prostitution business; transportation for the purpose of prostitution if committed for commercial advantage; or peonage, slavery,
    involuntary servitude, or trafficking in persons
    (L) gathering or transmitting national defense information, disclosure of classified information, sabotage, treason, or compromising the identity of undercover intelligence agents
    (M) fraud or deceit in which the loss to the victim or victims exceeds $10,000; or tax evasion in which the revenue loss to the Government exceeds $10,000
    (N) alien smuggling, except a first offense for which the alien has affirmatively shown the purpose of assisting, abetting, or aiding only the alien's spouse, child, or parent (and no other person)
    (O) illegal U.S. entry by an alien who was previously deported on the basis of an aggravated felony conviction
    (P) falsely making, forging, counterfeiting, mutilating, or altering a passport or instrument (document fraud) for which the term of imprisonment is at least 12 months; except in the case of a first offense for which the alien has affirmatively shown that the offense was committed for the purpose of assisting, abetting, or aiding the alien's spouse, child, or parent (and no other person)
    (Q) failure to appear for service of sentence if the underlying offense is punishable by imprisonment for 5 years or more
    (R) commercial bribery, counterfeiting, forgery, or trafficking in vehicles the identification numbers of which have been altered, if the term of imprisonment is at least one year;
    (S) obstruction of justice, perjury or subornation of perjury, or bribery of a witness, for which the term of imprisonment is at least one year
    (T) failure to appear before a court pursuant to a court order to answer to or dispose of a charge of a felony for which a sentence of 2 years' imprisonment or more may be imposed
    (U) an attempt or conspiracy to commit an aggravated felony.
     
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    Why would the government need to have an amendment guaranteeing it's right to have a military?
     
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    Pretty much. It kind of also functions as an instant IQ test.
     
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    Or maybe, they only ask for asylum when caught??? I bet that is more likely the case!
     
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    we have a federal form of government.
     
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    What kidnapping they were arrested by citizens as they called the authorities to take over, build the Wall then they wouldn't be able to cross into our nation unlawfully.
     
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    entry into the Union is a sovereign federal power since 1808.
     
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    The CBP statement continued: “Border Patrol welcomes assistance from the community and encourages anyone who witnesses or suspects illegal activity to call 911.”

    [​IMG]
    United Constitutional Patriots
    Doing the job that liberal activist judges
    will not allow the Border Patrol to do.
     
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    The democrat governor is to blame as well, she's pulled the National guard there.

    Like Newsome in CA.
     
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    There is no express immigration clause; we do have an express establishment clause for an uniform rule of naturalization; enforce the law, don't be Illegals.
     
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    My wife is Cherokee so her family was here before the Europeans invaded, and I'm British by birth but now a proud naturalized US citizen. I came to the US the hard way, the legal way, I didn't slip through the border or overstay my visa.
     
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    It was stated in the OP they came through a breach in the existing fence.
     

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