NRA torches Biden admin for plan to change rules for gun buyers, sellers

We've never had one here... except for an Indian raid back in the 1830's.

Yes... there is a method to add an amendment.

 

So there is a constitutional mechanism where we the people can change a law in the Constitution.

We agree.

Which invalidates the argument that guns are good for society because there's the 2A.

 

We the People have no say, unless our state gives us one.

 

Don't you worry, you will under your beloved government control in no time.
If you love being under government control so much, why don't you just go to one of the countries out there that have confiscated everyones guns. What are you waiting for? I think Venezuela is looking for a few good men.

Oh, I get it. You're like those other leftist in California, that run from the state because of the policies you don't like, just to go to another state to vote for the same polices you left California for thinking this time it will be different.
Now I get it.

 

I live in a typical midsize city that does have a crime problem. The fact that I can (and do) own a gun for protection against criminal attacks does make me safer than if I was defenseless or only had kitchen knives.

If that common sense justification isn’t proof enough…. ban guns at your will so only criminals have guns and tell me how safe Americans are.

 

Has there been a change> When? Where? The 2A is still alive and strong. Your imaginary amendment hasn't happened yet. Until it does, its meaningless and irrelevant.

 

But you haven't changed the second amendment which means your post fails under it own weight. lol

 

How do you explain the astronomical homicide rate among gangs members when they're all armed?

 

Hey now. I escaped from California because it was just too miserable a place to live. Now I reside in...

TEXAS!!! WHERE FREEDOM LIVES!!!

 

Slave owners and those who didn't want women to have the vote said exactly the same thing.

 

I would like for people in other countries to be allowed to arm themselves as well. But I can only vote in this country.

 

How do you join this "gans" thing? Can men and women both join?

 

I truly don't understand how this is an attack on the Second Amendment. On it's own, it doesn't seem to infringe on "The right of the people to keep and bear arms".
It seems to be a way of closing a loophole in the sale of firearms.
I think the NRA doesn't like it because that's the business they are in.

 

No they didn't. There were no amendments ending slavery or giving women the right to vote back then as there are now. Do you know what year this is?

 

Sure, but thats not what this is. This is just changing the bureaucratic application of the law without a vote.

Thats how the war on drugs started, by applying a tax stamp to marijuana crops where you needed to provide the crop to get the stamp, but needed the stamp to grow the crop- which meant there was technically no legal way to get the stamp or grow the crop (though the few with friends in the govt still could, of course). There was no voting until way later.

Many suspect this is what politicans will do to guns, if we let them. And this (OP) is one step in that direction. And in fact this catch-22 tax stamp scheme was the first step in banning machine guns as well, and it was done around the same time as weed. It appears one was a test case to see if we'd let em get away with it, we did, and so they did it again to something else.

We need to stop the war on drugs, not replace it with a war on guns.

 

“Live by the sword, die by the sword”
It’s an old saying that fits as answer to your question.

 

So long as the liberal DA's keep lowering the bar and increasing the levels of criminals crime, the need for self defense will grow, and even now....

The liberals are buying guns. Women are increasingly buying guns. And because- the mindset of the left is destroying the stability and safety of a morally responsible community, and people are seeing that they will have to depend on themselves.

If you want to make the country safe- stop tolerating violent people and violent, criminal behavior. Enforce real law on real criminals.

 

The NRA is a corrupt organization. Why would anyone care about corrupt organizations?

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'Misfire' takes a hard look at nepotism, fraud and corruption in the NRA
The National Rifle Association is in a bit of trouble. The New York state attorney general sued to dissolve the organization that's at the center of the gun lobby. The NRA is a nonprofit accused of diverting money from its charitable mission. Our colleague, Tim Mak, has been investigating where some of the money went.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/02/1051...k-at-nepotism-fraud-and-corruption-in-the-nra

 

Does that mean more guns won't solve gun crimes?

 

To "infringe" is to encroach, impede, obstruct, interfere, limit.
Any law that does any of that is unconstitutional.

And it's not the sale of firearms that is the problem. It's the use of firearms by criminals that the law cannot have any effect on- and the injustice of imposing unconstitutional limits on all the people who are law-abiding, non-threatening people in the first place.

 

It means gangsters should not go out of their own element lest they face equally armed upright citizens defending their selves.

 

Just to be clear, you would oppose any type of gun restrictions, such as felons, people of any age, violent offenders, and support possessing a gun in any venue anywhere in the US, such as concerts, banks, political gatherings, schools?
Edit: Forgot about this: And anyone should be able to own any firearm in those areas, like fully automatic guns, large caliber, grenade launchers? Does "arms" mean anything you can carry?

 

So you agree, more guns does not equal less crimes.

Yes would have been sufficient.

 

Like many pro-2A , you don't know the Constitution.

The 19th Amendment giving women the right to vote was ratified by Congress in 1920.

The amendment ending slavery (13th) was passed in 1865.

 

So the argument that gun ownership increases safety is false.