Obama Birth Certificate: breaking-plan-to-expose-obama-birth-certificate forgery...

the discovery timeline doesn't always lend itself to the particulars of a given case, ask woodward and bernstein...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_the_President's_Men

 

sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...

 

because that's a mod decision j, all you guys want is to have any mention swiftly swept off the visible board. why don't you take a whack at explaining why that is. we'll listen to everything you say with great respect, when it comes to you, I have always perceived you as a gentleman and a class act, and have treated you accordingly, I hope you feel the same way.

 

OK, what about the data that totally destroys your argument?
How did the Obama birth announcement get into the Hawaiian newspapers?
Do you have time travel theory to explain why a birth in Kenya was announced in Honolulu newspapers as a birth in Honolulu?
Or does your conspiracy theory stipulate a plan hatched long before Obama's birth?

Why does the state of Hawaii claim that Obama was born there?
If the COLB is a forgery, why does the State of Hawaii vouch for it?

 

that's just nasty race baiting and you know it.

 

how much do you know about the case ? have you read dr. corsi's book ?? this is still an investigation in progress. mike zullo has told me he has enough to bring a case, but he could not tell me details. I didn't ask, and I respect that, but I have full faith in his ability and character and integrity, which is more than I can say about the man in the oval office.

this is a big controversy in the largest arena on earth, so too is the Benghazi affair, there are tremendous similarities.

the antis haven't been able to put this fire out in the past six years, that in itself is both notable and pending (pattern behavior).

the use of intimidation as a damage control mechanism is pervasive, I believe. also I was born in and raised in chicago.

answer my question(s) and I will respond to your concerns. I would also encourage you to review the birther archives at this forum. start here: http://www.politicalforum.com/search.php?searchid=755036

 

yes this again, ostensibly so goes the benghazi affair. America is awakening, and i'm glad.

 

That's not an argument, you don't even address the issue.
I don't need to read Corsi's book to know that Corsi wrote the book to make money, targeted at a particular market, it succeeds because people buy the book, but just like the books about vampires, it can be successful without being true.

So enlighten me and all the unwashed laboring in darkness.
How did those birth announcements get into the Honolulu papers?
The papers themselves claim that they would only publish birth announcements that received from local hospitals, so how did Barack Obama get his name on a list from a Honolulu hospital, way back then?
This is one of those key pieces of information, because if you can't explain it, your whole theory fails.
How does Corsi explain it?
How does Zullo explain it?
Because if you have more faith in the character and integrity of a guy who is lying to you in order to get your money, than you do in the president of the United States, what does that say about you?

Why do officials from the state of Hawaii vouch for the authenticity of the Obama COLB?
Because the way the system works, officials in the Hawaii Vital Statistics Registry are the last word on the subject.
This is another one of those things that if it's true your whole theory fails.
How does Corsi explain that?


And I do agree with you on one thing, this birth certificate controversy has a lot in common with the Benghazi controversy.

In both cases the right has zero actual evidence, just a lot of speculation and conjecture, and no good explanation of the actual facts of either case.

 

this is where congress will begin at the hearing next wednesday..

with all due respect, it's this very predisposition and attitude of bias that makes me leery, would you extend the same sentiment if the proverbial shoe was on the other foot ? this is where intellectual honesty comes into play. get familiar with the entire issue, then we'll talk. you are relatively new here, but I am willing to engage, however, my time is valuable too.

 

And the fact that you won't answer the question speaks volumes....

Clearly you have the time to put all these posts about Obama's BC on the forum.
But when it comes a two particular data points, that destroy your argument, you don't have time.
But you do have time, what you don't have is answers....

 

If moderators have even looked at it- I haven't reported the thread- but I do think it deserves to be with the rest of the Conspiracy theory threads.

Because Birtherism deserves all of the visibility as 9/11 Truther theories, and 'we never landed on the Moon' theories.

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Not really- though I think it is unfair to paint the Republican Party as being the Part of Birthers- while most Birthers are indeed Republicans, most Republicans treat Birthers like political lepers.

 

Obama looks just like his mother Anne Dunham... and there was no Kenya in 1961.. nor was there an international airport in Nairobi or Mombassa in 1961..

Idiots are so easily fooled.... It would have taken Obama's mother 5 days to fly from East Africa to Hawaii in 1961.

 

Scott- seriously- for a Birther you are an okay guy- I dont' consider you slimey like I do Apuzzo or Taitz- but I have never been able to get you to actually engage in a rational discussion.

You bounce from this to that- and you never actually provide a thoughtful response to any of the myriad inconsistancies and lies from Birthers.

I haven't seen any intellectual honesty from you.

If you want to have a serious discussion- we can discuss any single point you want to- but it has to be give and take. I will not participate if you just respond to questions with another Birther tangental question.

 

the reply was to someone saying Obama was a mongrol not black

 

well that's what i'm trying to tell you. you are brand new here, I have addressed all of the questions. if you are not willing to read the basic primers, why should I feel compelled to discuss what's already been heavily discussed by me.

look around and you will find all of the said birther antibirther intercourse.

I don't believe you are sincere, and if you are just another of bill's socks, I really don't care what you think. put another way, in this arena... you ain't nobody. sorry, that's just the way it is here, nothing personal. if you are too lazy to do the work, find some other birther to dog,... dog. other than that, welcome, you have all the time in the world to "catch up". at least all of your posts aren't birther related, so you have that going for you... which is nice.

 

No one still dumb enough to buy this crap right? Right?

Surely Trump will expose the truth... surely...

 

and that's somehow better ?

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that's cool j. been there done that. what a lovely backhanded antibirther compliment. I don't think you are slimy like some of the others too.

 

Question #1
Then why hasn't Mike Zullo 'brought a case'(not that he can himself- since he is not a law enforcement officer- why does he have press conferences rather than getting a DA or Grand Jury to file charges?

Question #2
Why on earth would you have 'full faith' in Mike Zullo'? Seriously- what integrity has he shown- by signing a book deal prior to his supposed 'investigation'?

Question #3
ok jeff. there is no controversy ?? fine, but your loyalty to obamavich is increasingly bizarre.

Assuming you are speaking of President Obama, show me how my 'loyalty' is anything more than pointing out the facts?

 

You just took more time to tell me you are too busy to answer the question than it would have taken you to answer the question.

And that answers my question.

 

it's all subjective amigo. I look at motive. I have good instincts about character. I've said many times, it started with a gut reaction on 4/27/11 the day of the second release of the "original" birth certificate, which we still haven't seen. I don't know anymore than you do (maybe a few things). but as with Benghazi, the situation gets rekindled.

I think all are you are presumptuous to declare it all over. congress has a hearing next Wednesday with the advent of new discovery. this isn't me and wishful thinking, this is the United States congress, and six months later we don't know what happened that night. the families of the dead don't know. what if they were your kids ?? wouldn't you want to know ?? Benghazi was a long time ago ?? is he kidding?? are you satisfied with that ?

Benghazi is all over the news again, i'm not supposing here at all. remember "question authority" from the sixties... those were liberals and democrats... what the hell happened to those people.

don't take this forum too seriously... remember it's conspiracy theory. i'm just a concerned citizen like you.

I had a long talk with mike zullo, and I got a good vibe from him... I do with you too. and if all of this is so stupid and silly why would frank spend so much time excoriating zullo in a report, he is so smart and talented, why would he bother? and a lot of stuff in his paper is just plain crap, and now I know now he fails sometimes, he gets things wrong. why would kevin davidson and fogbow spend six years hassling the birthers? that doesn't square with me, it's not logical. I hope this makes sense to you, for you are one of the most rational in my opinion. antibirther do not operate from a defense posture, they are always on the attack, there must be a reason why. let's see what happens with Benghazi and birtherquest, there is plenty of time for both, let's let the chips fall where they may.

 

Everyone? That's news to me.

That's the first I've heard that one. He certainly doesn't look like a full-blooded African. Looks to me like he could have had a white mama.

True.

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He sounds like another con artist fleecing the gullible.

 

That's what every variety of CT and trufer says. They're all out to "educate the public," whether they're 9/11 kooks, Sandy Hook kooks or moon landing kooks..