obama birth certificate. the media is catching on

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  1. rahl

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    Meanwhile, Obama remains the only president in US history to ever prove he was actually eligible to hold the office, he was elected twice and sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court twice, his birth certificate was verified by the only authority with the power to make the determination, and you birthers have lost over 200 straight times in court. You maintain a perfect record of fail.

    So yea, it continues to suck to be a birther. Lol
     
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    Lol, birthers
     
  3. Birtherlicious

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    Limited intellect must be your specialty since you copy and paste non-stop repetitive irrelevant responses that doesn't pertain to the 100% forged birth document Obama presented to the American public.

    Gosh it sucks to be a anti-American such as yourself.
     
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    Meanwhile, Obama remains the only president in US history to ever prove he was actually eligible to hold the office, he was elected twice and sworn in by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court twice, his birth certificate was verified by the only authority with the power to make the determination, and you birthers have lost over 200 straight times in court. You maintain a perfect record of fail.

    So yea, it continues to suck to be a birther. Lol
     
  5. Suranis

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    Dude, he said he has a sensitive investigation going on, and he said he is looking at "a fraudulent document". As you birthers like to say, he was choosing his words VERY carefully. That's Arpiao's MO all over. That's giving himself just enough cover so that when it comes to the crunch, he can deny he ever said the BC was a fraud. After all, he never said that "_A_ fraudulent document" is the BC. ;) Arpiao is playing you like a violin.

    As for Reed Hayes, I just said he was a Graphologist, thanks for repeating what I said. All you said there was what I said, that his job is analyzing signatures. Big deal. He still is not a super certified Document examiner with any idea about the effects of Raster compression has on an image, like you would like to paint him. I just linked you to the site of Neal Kerwitz, who IS a FORENSIC DIGITAL DOCUMENT EXAMINER, and who said flat out there was nothing suspicious in the PDF of your Presidents BC.

    But then you don't have a clue what Reed Hayes really said, as Zullo has refused to release his report. Probably becasue he knows people would laugh their heads off at it. Thats also why he insisted on a "one butten step" to producing a document like your Presidents BC pdf. We now know it requires pressing 2 buttons. Strange, isn't it.

    He who laughs last laughs longest, and so far we have been laughing for 6 years, and birthers haven't managed a chuckle in all that time.
     
  6. Birtherlicious

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    What document was Rusty Humphries asking Arpaio about? What was Arpaio referring to of Obama's that was in his words a forged fraudulent government document? Getting back to Reed Hayes, he is also a Forensic Digital Document Examiner. That's why he is able to specialize in computer-generated handwriting and documents. I also don't see a site you linked me to of this Neal Kerwitz person. Where is it?
     
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    A "graphologist"???? Hahaha.. does he also read palms and tea leaves?
     
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    Instead of facts- Birthers use youtube- the perfect source for the gullible fooled by Birther liars.

    Arpaio has never said that the Birth Certificate is a forgery- he has carefully strung Birthers along while committing to nothing.
     
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    I really don't dismiss his expertise- I point out that there is no evidence that Reed Hayes has every said anything about the Birth Certificate.

    Supposedly he wrote a report over a year ago. A report no one has been shown.

    Feel free to show us any proof that Reed Hayes has ever claimed that birth certificate was a forgery.

    You can't- because Zullo has been stringing Birthers along for over a year now.

    Before we even bother with talking about whether Reed Hayes as the appropriate expertise- I would like to see some evidence Reed Hayes has said anything about the birth certificate.
     
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    Seriously how do any Birthers take Zullo seriously?

    They complain that Obama is not transparent while Zullo strings them along month after month.

    If Zullo or Arpaio really had any evidence that Obama had done as much as jay walked, they would be having press conferences today. Instead they have press conferences to say that they aren't releasing anything because it is 'super sekrit'.

    Actual investigators take evidence to grand juries or prosecutors. Perhaps since this has to do with a sitting President it would makes sense to go to the Speaker of the House.

    Instead Zullo supposedly has copyrighted the supposed report.

    Birthers will believe anything but the truth. Birthers will believe anyone as long as that person is telling them that Obama can't possibly be President.
     
  12. Birtherlicious

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    Read Reed Hayes statement he put out after he first examined the pdf document. The MCSO_CCP has only delayed because more evidence has poured in which in turn caused Arpaio to start a second criminal investigation utilizing two new full time detectives not affiliated with the CCP. This is why the CCP has no need to ask for donations anymore.
     
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    That youtube video was factually featuring Arpaio and his statement about the birth certificate, a forged fraudulent government document as he was referring to when asked by Rusty Humphries. None of it was fake and your spin as a typical sycophant obot to dispute he was not referring to the birth certificate fails.
     
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    Reed Hayes has not put out any statement.

    Zullo has.

    Zullo hasn't done anything because he has been stringing Birthers along.

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    Arpaio never claimed that Obama's BC was fraudulant. He very carefully did not do so.

    And of course we know that Arpaio's office has no evidence regarding a Hawaiian fraud.

    If they had they would have done what police departments do when they have evidence- go to grand juries and prosecutors. If the fraud happened in Hawaii they would be going to Hawaii state police.

    Instead they have press conferences always with 'more to come'- and never with any facts.

    Looking forward to you showing us something with Reed Hayes own words.
     
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    LOL. You are so gullible. Sure, that was what Humphries was asking, but all Arpiao would say is that "Look, we have a forged document, and we are now looking into who is responsible for it." Did Arpiao mention the word Birth certificate? Hell no, Arpiao is too slippery a snake to say those words. That's been his MO for 30 years, doing stuff through friends and surrogates then leaving them with the can when it blows up, and challenging anyone to say he approved of the subordinates violation. He said just enough to keep the money flowing and not a thing more.

    And they have been "closing in on the person behind it" for nigh on 3 years now :D

    And its Dr. Neal Krawetz. I posted you the link above with the 4 youtube videos that you never looked at either. Too painful.

    http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/428-After-Birth.html

    Finally there's not a thing on Reed Hayes own website that claims he is a "forensic digital document examiner" like Dr. Krawetz. He claims "Reed Hayes is a certified handwriting analyst and forensic document examiner" and in the servicesvhe writes

    Document Examination

    Signature Verification
    Anonymous Letter Evaluation
    Detection of Document Alterations
    Computerized Document Evaluation
    Forgery Investigation
    Restoration of Erasures and Obliterations
    Indented Writing Investigation
    Typewriting Examination

    And then goes on a long discussion on how to evaluate signatures.

    In short he is a handwriting analyst and that's his focus. Good luck to him, but inflating his credentials to examining the effects of Raster compression is ludicrous. Zullo also once let it slip out that he was the fourth guy they hired to look at the BC, presumably because everyone else saw nothing wrong with it. Reed probably correctly thought he would get more money out of Zullo with a negative result, knowing there was no way it would go anywhere because a prosecutor would take one look at his credentials and laugh at Zullo.

    Reed Hayes also provides "Behavioral Profiling & Character Analysis" based on signatures. Like I said, hes a graphologist. Even the guys website name suggests its about writing.

    http://reedwrite.com/

    So yeah. He would be only qualified to give an opinion on the signatures. Thats why Zullo hasn't published the report and never will
     
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    Your post is bogus, completely. The CCP will release their evidence when given the authorization is given by Arpaio, once the 2nd criminal investigation is over. That fact has been established. As for you, you have absolutely no idea what evidence Arpaio has. As for the press conferences, they have had only two and they both established that fraud had been committed on the selective service as well as the pdf birth certificate.
     
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    He didn't have to since we know the subject was the birth certificate my foreign accent un-American friend.
     
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    Where is Dr. Neal Krawetz CV dealing with forged documents compared to Reed Hayes impeccable CV?
     
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    Oh you have a crystal ball and can predict the future? Even the fanatical king anti-birther Dr. Conspiracy has elaborated in one of his articles what the Hayes report might contain and that is Reed Hayes has detected anomalies in the signatures that the average person can't detect that concludes forgery has been committed. Have faith in Arpaio, he will prevail in the end.


    Gosh it sucks to be a Obot sycophant/anti-birther lol.
     
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    And that is a good thing!
     
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    You could try looking at his blog. Which is VERY good, especially if you are interested in the field of digital analysis. As opposed to looking at a signiture
    On his published works
    Phuck, the man can barely turn a computer on.
     
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    All irrelevant. What is his professional credentials pertaining to detecting computer-generated forged signatures and forensic document attestations? Please specify in detail.
     
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    There is not a single truth in your entire post.

    Meanwhile- still waiting for you to show us anything from Reed Hayes.
     
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    We have all speculated on what the mythical Hayes report might contain. We have all speculated that the Hayes report is an imaginary product of Zullo's attempt to defraud Birthers too.

    Of course all we can do is speculate- since there is no evidence that any such report even exists.

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    And they will still be closing in on that person for as long as Zullo can make money off of it.
     
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    Oh yes there is!
     

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