One Nation, what a bitches brew party....

Yeap,
many people drifting down that lane, more and more to the right.
Unfortunately we haven't got a charismatic Labor Party leader, which some people might deter (a little bit myself, I have to say).
The right wingers are getting stronger, despite our already smallish intake of refugees.
But it the easiest thing to blame everything on the refugees, or the Muslims, or the Greens and commus.
In realty it is the Liberal/National party, which is holding us back.....
Reg.

 

Thankyou for conceding your inability to in any way back up your claims. Have a nice day.

 

Of course he is, I simply stated he is misinformed.

 

Another massive load of bovine excrement!

Here is what you ORIGINALLY posted!

When it was pointed out that they are a FASCIST party your DENIED that their policies are fascist.

You were provided with a link clearly establishing that One Nation has FASCIST policies.

You were provided with the DEFINITION of Fascism which INCLUDED their scapegoating of Muslims.

You then resorted to puerile whataboutism which also FAILED.

And now you are PRETENDING that your stated support for a FASCIST party has not actually been proven even though all of the posts in this thread PROVE otherwise.

Kneejerk denialism on your part does not alter FACTUALLY DOCUMENTED reality.

 

Ironic given that you are sadly misinformed about the FASCIST POLICIES of the One Nation party that you support.

 

I debunked your link. It contains no serious allegation ot any fascist policy.

Not wanting immigration from Muslim countries is not fascist.

 

Wrong again on ALL counts!

 

Half the bloody world is fascist then.

 

No, it isn't!

White nationalists do not represent half the world.

They are a very small group of fascists who cling to hatred and bigotry because they are scared of EVERYONE who is different from them.

 

Okay... so what if we just had Japanese or South Korean immigration policy then? Can we do that without calls of fascism?

 

Whataboutism does not alter the FACT that One Nation is a fascist party.

 

No whataboutism, what is your standard here? It seems like you think a fair few modern developed nations, well integrated into the international system are fascist in nature.

I am pointing out that this is an absurd standard.

If your definition of fascism means everyone's a fascist then your definition is probably flawed.

Shinzo Abe, for instance, is not a fascist. Despite rejecting mass immigration wholesale.

 

Obviously you have not bothered to read and/or comprehend the 14 signs of fascism link that was provided to you.

Why is that?

Which part of it do you need to have explained?

 

Clearly all developed nations are communist because they vaguely fit a couple of Marx's planks put forth in the Communist Manifesto. Progressive income taxation and an inheritence tax to name a few.

You still haven't adequately put your finger on one aspect of fascism they support. When pushed to have a uniform rule that doesn't make half the world into fascists you cried whataboutism erroneously and avoided the discussion.

If opposition to mass immigration is all it takes to sum your views up as fascist legitimately over half of Australia are fascists:

Between 54% and 76%

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/09/community-support-for-mass-immigration-collapses/

Any standard which makes out that a considerable majority of developed parliamentary democracies are fascist is a flawed standard.

 

Flailing desperation duly noted and ignored given that it is a patently absurd attempt to DEFLECT from your own admission when it comes to voting for the One Nation fascist party.

 

...we should try to love our bitches whenever possible.

 

So... is it possible to be opposed to mass immigration without being a fascist, or not?

 

the fascist part is implying an immigration clause when our Constitution already has an express power that covers this issue.

 

The LNP has swung heavily left in recent years.

Who would have thought in the 70s that the Liberals would be the party to propose a plebiscite on homosexual marriage? This is a good thing.

Unfortunately they have gone over to the "domestic violence is just violence against women" side of the gender politics debate, something else entirely - and it is creating an opening for parties that are further to the right.

I would vote Libs if they were the party of Howard. I would vote for Labor if they were the party of Keating. Unfortunately for them they're the parties of Scomo and Billy Boy, respectively. And they will not get my vote as a result.

I woule vote Liberal Democrat or Shooters, Fishers and Farmers if they were in my electorate. Alas they are not, so I'll be voting One Nation.

 

This is a thread about Australia in the Australia and NZ forum.

Besides, there is such a thing as Article V. If done right, changing the constitution to eliminate birthright citizenship would be a good thing. Not extrajudicial in any way. They changed it to put the clause in, they can just as easily change it to take it out (though admittedly this is unlikely to happen as condition of defeat in war like it was)

 

Good for you. I agree with all you say, and wish I was as liberal and ideology-free as you are. Your attitude is the way of the future IMHO. And it's one a huge number of Gen Z are adopting. Instead of being bullied by media, schools, and indoctrination-minded parents, they strip away the cultism and look at core messages.

And NONE are fundamentally evil. To suggest that any are, or that only one is fundamentally righteous, is what cultists do.

 

False equivalence logical fallacy!

You can be opposed to drinking beer without being a fascist!

VOTING for a FASCIST political party is the ACTION that SUPPORTS FASCISM!

You posted that you would vote FOR the FASCIST One Nation party in the election.

 

I asked why you think they were fascist and you pointed to their immigration policy. When I gave a couple of counterexamples with similar policy that clearly are not fascistic you just bluntly state without evidence that I support a fascist party.

So I ask again, what about One Nation's policy platform fo you find fascistic? And be consistent.

 

Well,
their leader P.Hanson clearly and repeatedly spoke about stopping Asians and nowadays stopping all Muslim, I don't know what more proof you need.....
They are as much fascist/racist/evil that even the Nationals look like choir boys in comparison!
Reg.

 

Opposition to mass immigration is not fascism.

I agree she is a bigot, I agree her motivations are probably flawed - but I care about policy.