Organic Food Poisoning

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  1. dnsmith

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    You are a liar! "Pink slime" (a dysphemism for lean finely textured beef or LFTB, finely textured beef, and boneless lean beef trimmings or BLBT,) is a meat-based product used as a food additive to ground beef and beef-based processed meats, as a filler or to reduce the overall fat content of ground beef. Great idea whose time has come except for idiots who don't give a cows excrement how it affects other people with their whining.

    A much-maligned beef product that was once frequently added to hamburger is making a comeback. Two years ago, beef processors cut back sharply on producing what they call "lean, finely textured beef" after the nasty nickname for it, "pink slime," caught on in the media. Now, higher beef prices are leading to increased demand for the product.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...aking-a-comeback-do-you-have-a-beef-with-that
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.......it is finely textured beef and has always been named that even before the liars and fools dubbed it 'pink slime.' FTB has been around for years and no one, NOT ONE, person has EVER been made sick from eating it.
     
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    Yes, it has to do with labeling and the fools who want it. Knowing full well that any attempt to label any food to not have GM will be virtually impossible as almost ALL food has been "exposed' to GMO "contamination" (your pipe dream), and the damage to the food industry raising prices for people who can't afford to pay YOUR ARTIFICIALLY RAISED PRICES. People have a right to the healthy foods GMO produce and at the lower prices before you FOOLS tried to destroy the market with your stupid, ignorant expectations. NO LABELING SHOULD EVER HAPPEN in a sane world. You have not got the right to create the turmoil for the majority.
     
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    Since the GMO food is safe and all you fools talk about are herbicides and pesticides YOU WILL NOT GET SICK FROM GMO FOOD.
     
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    Richer people don't mind paying a few extra dollars for their food. About the only thing that could go wrong, when buying organic, is you could lose a few dollars when some organic item is overpriced.

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    ^^^ The farm workers above must wear proper protective clothing, or else they get cancer
    from being exposed too often to carcinogenic pesticides.

    Now, what can go wrong with chemical intensive agriculture?
    1- farm workers could get cancer
    2 - the farm could spray too soon to harvest, resulting in too high of pesticide levels.
    3 - Groundwater could be contaminated, resulting in "cancer clusters" like occured in California's San Joaquin valley in the 1970s.
    4 - Depression and suicide among farmers using pesticides is increasing.
    5 - Brain damage for children - exposed to pesticides.

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    A story in Environmental Health News explores the impact that prolonged exposure to large amounts of pesticides might be having on the mental health of farmers, leading to depression and suicide.

    http://www.care2.com/causes/suicide-and-depression-among-farmers-linked-to-pesticides.html
     
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    then there is no issues with labeling it..... that way if we do ever get sick from it, we would know
     
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    if GMO corps are contaminating the food supply as you say, they should be sued

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    here's something to think about. How important is it to save a few dollars?

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    No you wouldn't. You could only guess and then probably got sick from Organic anyway, or some of the herbicides and insecticides you people always bring up when GMO safety is brought up, stuff that will be used anyway.
     
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    So again you lie, by repeating the lies propagated by less than intelligent trade publications.

    Myth #1: Organic Farms Don't Use Pesticides

    When the Soil Association, a major organic accreditation body in the UK, asked consumers why they buy organic food, 95% of them said their top reason was to avoid pesticides. They, like many people, believe that organic farming involves little to no pesticide use. I hate to burst the bubble, but that's simply not true. Organic farming, just like other forms of agriculture, still uses pesticides and fungicides to prevent critters from destroying their crops.

    http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...101-organic-farming-conventional-agriculture/

    But the headline–promoting a widespread myth about organic farming–is flat out not accurate. The truth is, organic farmers use both synthetic and natural kinds of pesticides —with approval under the USDA Organic Act.

    In fact, Consumer Reports backtracked from its misleading headline in its article, noting that natural pesticides — which are not necessarily safer than synthetic ones and often less targeted to protect beneficial insects — are common. It writes: “Federal law prohibits the use of almost all synthetic pesticides on organic farms.” It then stumbled again in its summary, writing, “There are currently no synthetic herbicides approved for use on organic food crops,” only to reverse itself, noting, “Only 10 synthetic insecticides are approved for use on organic farms.”
    https://www.geneticliteracyproject....demonization-organic-farmers-widely-use-them/
     
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    Pink slime is an additive. Labeling an additive is not an issue and most food products are required to do it right now. If indeed pink slime is nothing more than meat paste as the other person mentioned then it would be redundant to label anyways since that is literally what sausage is.......meat paste. That being said I have no problem with banning it or labeling it but that is not genetic modification. Read the back of anything you find in a grocery store and they list the additives. Labelling a crop GMO or non GMO is just nonsense as several people have pointed out most of the food you eat already is using GMO food and has been for decades. You have been eating GMO corn in your cereal, restaurant food and most of the stuff you bought at a grocery store that contained corn for over 20 years. It is nothing more than a move by the faux organic industry to try and scare people into buying their overpriced goods and cause even further harm to the environment.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/nature/fewer-pesticides-farming-with-gmos/

    Notice the bolded in the last quote. People have been scared so senseless by the lying idiots and morons in the anti-GMO movement that farmers........organic farmers that would like to use them in order to use fewer chemicals can't because their scared witless customers believe that GMOs are somehow evil.

    This type of nonsense has to be stopped and stopped immediately. It is completely fabricated and nothing but lies.
     
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    Organic farms look different usually.

    Some organic 'pesticides' allowed are:

    Insecticidal Soap
    Considered the safest of all organic pesticides, insecticidal soap is composed of either potassium or sodium salts mixed with fatty acids.

    Bacillus thuringiensis,
    more commonly referred to as Bt, is a biological pesticide, which means it is a living organism that is in some way lethal to garden or yard pests.

    the pesticides organic farms are allowed to use are different to the chemical pesticides.

    https://similkameenriverorganicfarm.wordpress.com/


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    Sprayers are bigger, costing $hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    Not good for us in the long term.
     
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    when I am researching issues, I like to have all the variables
     
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    You continue to over look that GMOs do not contain pesticides or herbicides. They are applied in ever other crop, even organic. Your continued use of complaints about GMOs are stupid and your links are to non credible sites.

    But the headline–promoting a widespread myth about organic farming–is flat out not accurate. The truth is, organic farmers use both synthetic and natural kinds of pesticides —with approval under the USDA Organic Act.

    In fact, Consumer Reports backtracked from its misleading headline in its article, noting that natural pesticides — which are not necessarily safer than synthetic ones and often less targeted to protect beneficial insects — are common. It writes: “Federal law prohibits the use of almost all synthetic pesticides on organic farms.” It then stumbled again in its summary, writing, “There are currently no synthetic herbicides approved for use on organic food crops,” only to reverse itself, noting, “Only 10 synthetic insecticides are approved for use on organic farms.”
     
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    Again with the non credible web sites run with agendas to market the stuff they grow, which is more dangerous than any all other types of crops put together. Your story is bull excrement again.
     
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    The do some real research instead of going to non credible sites to mis-learn the facts. You are too stupid to do valid research and others prove you wrong at every turn. You are just not smart enough to realize that and neither is your excremental buddy. You already have all the variables, the benefit of valid research which you discard.
     
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    MythThis site one of you idiots linked us too lies like a rug. No organic farmer, or any other farmer would ever put 2-4-D on strawberries. You are fools to believe that crap. It is BOGUS site. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VoO_zRUEQw4/T2t6Nb0rdLI/AAAAAAAAEg8/BaHZIVRgYIc/s1600/eatOrganic.jpg

    Myth: Myth #1: Organic Farms Don't Use Pesticides

    When the Soil Association, a major organic accreditation body in the UK, asked consumers why they buy organic food, 95% of them said their top reason was to avoid pesticides. They, like many people, believe that organic farming involves little to no pesticide use. I hate to burst the bubble, but that's simply not true. Organic farming, just like other forms of agriculture, still uses pesticides and fungicides to prevent critters from destroying their crops.
     
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    Rotenone was widely used in the US as an organic pesticide for decades 3. Because it is natural in origin, occurring in the roots and stems of a small number of subtropical plants, it was considered "safe" as well as "organic". However, research has shown that rotenone is highly dangerous because it kills by attacking mitochondria, the energy powerhouses of all living cells. Research found that exposure to rotenone caused Parkinson's Disease-like symptoms in rats 4, and had the potential to kill many species, including humans. Rotenone's use as a pesticide has already been discontinued in the US as of 2005 due to health concerns***, but shockingly, it's still poured into our waters every year by fisheries management officials as a piscicide to remove unwanted fish species.
     
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    all starts with the correct labeling so you can research it
     
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    Nope! You don't need labeling
    to properly research food. Go to the experts and shy away from charlatans pushing their own products and agenda. My knowledge is more intimate than that even, as I lived through the beginning of GMO and the green revolution where in my father, a Graduate Agronomist and Bacteriologist was involved in part of the beginning, and the end. He was instrumental in research in Mexico, then later in India. He tested GMOs, was one of the first to call for the end of DDT and 2-4-D. His experience in rice hybridization based on natural selection, led to early GMO testing of safety, nutrition, and quality and flavor. The Indians were sent millions of bushels of rice, which they did not like. So instead he recommended Basmati for taste and the Japanese method of planting. Experimenting with short stalk rice created a variety that required much less water for irrigation and actually could be inundated to stop some pest activity. Because the Indian Partition created millions of refugees from Pakistan, his goal was to feed the hungry. Within 5 years starvation became a past tense when there was enough food raised in India to feed itself.

    The fact that some were ignorant about the use of chemical fertilizer, herbicides, mostly small farmers in the millions of acres of jungle cleared for farming he taught the Indian agriculture agents how to sterilize natural fertilizer to reduce the use of chemical fertilizer. He also taught him how to use seeds of plants which warded off pests planted with their crops.

    So no, your feeble approach to research is to look the other way when facts are discussed. I continued my involvement over the years by reading articles, good and bad, and learned NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING RESEARCHED BY PEOPLE SELLING THE PRODUCT. The lie a lot, like all of the agenda filled false propaganda Superbut is trying to pass of as fact. Factual research is available at the USDA, Agriculture extension offices and myriad other real valid material.
     
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    The way Monsanto does things is absolutely disgusting. I would never trust a word
    they or any scientist say about their GMOs. I don't eat soy. I try eat only organic corn. And I don't
    eat cotton. So GMOs don't scare me too much, but I would not trust crooked
    Monsatan.


    ...how Monsanto and other biotech companies are working even more diffusely to shape public opinion behind the scenes—this time by buying scientists.

    The most egregious case concerns Dr. Kevin Folta, chair of the horticultural sciences department at the University of Florida. The New York Times describes Dr. Folta as “among the most aggressive and prolific biotech proponents,” yet he apparently only publicly acknowledged his ties to Monsanto after the emails were released.


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    http://www.anh-usa.org/whom-do-you-trust-mom-bloggers-scientists/
     
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    Most people will never in their lifetime understand what happens
    on a farm. Research scientists, who are paid to do research for
    chemical companies will never understand what happens on a farm.
    But anyway, here's a documentary that explains a little bit about GMO corn,
    and how it is affecting our health. Soon, 40% of us will be obese.

    India - is the #1 country for diabetes. whenever big business takes over farming
    and squeezes out the little guy, the people's health suffers. We don NOT need to feed
    ourselves with GMO corn, and the last thing India needs is GMOs.

    [video=youtube;UiCRwMMh9k8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiCRwMMh9k8[/video]
    ^ too bad the documentary is not free. :frown:
     
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    We don't need GMOs to feed the world. We don't need GMO corn, fed to cows,
    so we can consume fast food, until we explode.

    We need food from small local farmers bought at farmers markets.

    And we need to stop the epidemic of obesity and diabetes.
     

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