Perhaps the women on this board

would care to comment. Perhaps they might even have suggestions for Mr. DeMint. There are LOTS of other sites on the web carrying the same story.

Jim DeMint: Women want to be forced to have ultrasounds

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/30/jim-demint-women-want-to-be-forced-to-have-ultrasounds/

http://syndicatednewsservices.com/2013/07/01/demint-women-want-forced-ultrasounds/

Just curious about the female reaction.

 

Why do you oppose informed consent before an abortion?

Are you afraid women might change their mind if they see the result of an ultrasound?

Aren't you for "choice"?

Doesn't an ultrasound give the woman more information so she can make a better choice?

 

Why perform an unnecessary procedure for an abortion? If a woman wants to see the ultra sound that's fine or if a medical professional deems it is necessary to perform an ultrasound is another thing. What you are suggesting is to make a scare tactic law.

 

Scare tactic law? Sounds more like a common sense proposal to me, and perhaps a life saving one at that.

 

I would say it is a necessary procedure if a woman is to make a truely informed decision. This protects women from doing the procedure and finding out later that they destroyed a developing child. Emotionally it is devestating for women after the fact realizing what they did. Informed choice is important.

 

Are you a doctor, or someone one with medical training? Perhaps you can provide a reason why a forced ultrasound would be nessacary. If so you should inform doctors that their 8+ years of schooling had it all wrong.

 

I think its a good idea. That's why I voted for it in the last referendum when Texans were asked to give our opinions. You didn't think it was all DeMint's idea, did you?

 

That seems fairly reasonable. However, I doubt there's many that would WANT to see what they are about to scramble and vacuum out of their body. Outta sight - outta mind. Actually,I wouldn't even want to be forced to view pictures or movies of what's about to take place inside my colon during a colonoscopy. But I guess that's a dumb way to think about it since the colonoscopy and abortion procedures are "apples and oranges", so to speak..

 

Most women already suffer from depression after an abortioon regardless of the term. The only people proposing this law are gynoticians, not actual gynecologist. I believe the option should be made open to the woman, not forced upon them.

 

can all you conservatives in favor of this explain to me the blatant hypocrisy involved in being the party of "limited govn't" and "medical decisions should be between dr's and their patients" and your support for this bill?

 

Same tactic the pro abortion set is using in Austin.

Govt legalized abortion; therefore some regulation is necessary. If boundaries arent set, lefties would soon be aborting 3 yr olds.

 

so if men want a prescription to Viagra they should have to consent to anal probes to see if there is any blockage that may be causing their issue, it could save a life.

 

Right idea, wrong limitation. Poor strawman.

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perhaps you could point out what you think is "wrong" with the limitation.

 

I would, but that's not what I was asserting.

You implied that conservatives that scream for smaller government should be specifically targeting this proposal as an example of government waste.

I believe that to be a poorly-constructed strawman as it is a gross oversimplification.

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Anyone opposed to this proves he or she is not really "pro-choice" but "pro-abortion", i.e. the more abortions, the better.

 

Or you know, pro-common sense.

You still haven't shown how a forced ultrasound is necessary for women getting a abortion. I guess we should just take your word and the word of politicians over the word of actual doctors then?

 

An ultrasound is necessary for informed consent, which is a requirement for all medical procedures EXCEPT abortion.

I remember when my wife was giving birth to my child, the doctor asked my wife if she wanted to take a drug that would make the delivery less painful. He gave us informed consent about what the drug would do, and all its possible negative side-effects.

And look at every commercial for a pharmaceutical drug, all the information about side-effects are required by law.

So doctors and pharmaceutical companies have been complying with informed consent laws for quite some time.

Its time abortionists be held to the same standard.

 

and anyone for this proves he or she is not for "small/limited govn't" and are opposed to "medical decisions between dr's and patients"

 

I never claimed to be a libertarian so this argument doesn't apply to me.

I think that a certain amount of government regulation of the medical industry is necessary for public health and safety.

The abortion industry is woefully underregulated due to the interference of federal courts, which have struck down even common sense regulations of abortion clinics to make them more safe for women.

That is why abortion is still a dangerous and dirty business.

The era of "back alley" abortions have not ended, as can be seen in the Gosnell case.

Asking abortion clinics to provide clean and safe facilities is not asking too much.

 

Except an Ultrasound doesn't actually provide any real information one doesn't know about the fetus they're aborting other than what they look like. Actual gynecologist (note: trained professionals who know far more about this subject than you, me, and every Conservative politician put together) know full well an Ultrasound before an abortion is unneeded and is invasive. The service can be provided prior to the abortion, but there isn't a single, rhyme or reason why an ultrasound would be needed or required before an abortion unless you want to scare women out of making a health decision about their own body.

Please, cite me where an ultrasound is deemed medically necessary for all abortions. I will not take citations from anyone who is not trained in the field of medicine.

 

Abortionists use ultrasounds during an abortion to see the fetus while they're killing it. You didn't know that did you?

 

I know that full well, but you still haven't told me why you need to force the mother to take an ultrasound prior to the abortion. Why are you dodging the question?

 

Right, because taking a b0ner pill is the same as destroying a developing life.

No one ever claimed liberal arguments to be logical.

 

So women should be forced to go through invasive procedures to get the treatment they wish while men do not because....?