PF RULES AND GUIDELINES - Comments Welcome

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  1. PoliticalForum

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    PoliticalForum.com functions as a public forum website open to all individuals of all political persuasions that is centered on the discussion of politics in general. All walks of life are welcome to join the discussions in the tradition of vigorous respectful debate. The purpose of rules and guidelines for the forum is to help create an environment that is inviting to as wide a spectrum of people as possible from all parts of the world, but that does not restrict the ability of users to express their political views, even if those views are inflammatory or unorthodox. In a world often filled with intense political turmoil and polarization of beliefs, PoliticalForum.com attempts to bring opposites together to relate their views and learn from one another.



    Primary short listed rules:

    (1) This internet bulletin board is viewable by anyone with an internet capable computer anywhere in the world. Please keep this in mind whenever posting. While it is nearly impossible to state any opinion without potentially offending someone, we encourage an open and informed debate of a very wide range of ideas and views. The following are a few guidelines we highly encourage our users to follow:

    (2) The use of profanity is prohibited. We employ an automatic word censor to block offensive language. Using symbols to get past the word censor is prohibited. The practice of phonetically spelling or otherwise alternately spelling cursewords is likewise prohibited. The posting of nudity and other offensive images not associated with a true political topic is prohibited. Moderators are charged with enforcing this policy. Continued disregard towards this guideline may result in being banned from this board.

    (3) It is very tempting to follow another user's train of thought beyond the scope of the debate. This is understandable. However, we highly encourage our users to respect the intent of the established thread and try to keep focused on the topic. Threads that diverge may be relocated to a more approriate category, or split into new discussions. Continuing to stray may result in user's post(s) being deleted or may encourage the thread to be locked early. Please create new threads for new topics.

    (4) Avoid personal attacks. This is probably the most subjective of guidelines; however, approach it like this: ATTACK THE MESSAGE, NOT THE MESSENGER.
    Many topics are emotionally charged. This passion for what one believes in should remain in the discourse. However, please refrain from attacking another user in a personal way. Personal attacks do not contribute to a debate. While you may attack a user's ideas, views, political affiliation, political party, political candidate, government, etc... you must not attack the poster personally. Those who engage in this may get a private warning, a public warning, or even have their posting deleted. Continued disregard towards this guideline may result in being banned from this board.

    (5) No flame-bait threads or posts. Threads or posts where the sole intent (either by topic, title, images or language) is to elicit emotionally charged responses or personal attacks from others will be deleted. This especially goes for any form of hate speech. It is up to the moderators' discretion to determine whether or not a given post falls into a particular category. Continuing to start flame-bait threads and/or continuation of making flame-bait posts may lead to infractions and eventual banning.

    (6) No offensive signature lines. Whenever users register, they have the ability to set up a signature line that gets posted with each post. All signature line must comply with all applicable Forum Rules and Guidelines. Flamebaiting in a signature is strictly prohibited. Additionally the use of quotations from other members in a signature is subject to the consent of the member being quoted. Signatures are not to be excessive in size which tend to detract from the posts on threads.

    (7) Whenever starting a thread, give it some thought first. Try to make a decision in which category it would belong. Try to give it a title that describes its intent or its content. Try not to duplicate other threads that already exist. When in doubt, ask a moderator in a Private Message.



    All Rules and Guidelines:

    (1) Posts with any obscene, vulgar, or sexually-oriented language, including variations of common profanity are not allowed. Attempts to post profanity with letters missing or using alternate characters is also not allowed. Exclusions to the posting of profanity can be made by the a moderator or the admin on a case-by-case basis. Quoting of actual statements in the news may be excluded and maybe other appropriate situations, but generally this would be rare. Profanity in languages other than English are not allowed and may be restricted in the same way.

    (2) Posting of obscene and/or offensive images/depictions as avatars or photos is not allowed. Obscene and/or offensive images/depictions, including nudity and/or sexual acts, are not allowed as attachments unless it is part of a valid political news story or event. If a post contains a relevant obscene and/or shocking image/depiction an appropriate warning should be made in the subject and the post.

    (3) Users are not to harass other users, either in posts, by instant message or any other means. Derogatory namecalling outside the scope of anger and hostility should be directed toward the issue and not the person posting it. Continued harassment of anyone by any user is grounds for being banned.

    (4) Namecalling and derogatory remarks of political and public figures that are not users of the forum is permitted as this may be an expression of an opinion and free speech by the poster; however, any threats that are considered potentially real or are of a violent nature will be taken seriously and will be reported to authorities. This includes threats directed towards public officials, including the President and Vice-President which is a violation of federal law.

    (5) No posting of threads that are intended to just direct the user to another website without also providing a reasonable amount of text of a personal political opinion or relating to news on a political topic. Promotions of other websites are allowed in the Marketplace category. Your own personal or business URL is allowed in your signature with a small amount of text (signature length is limited and only one hyperlink it allowed).

    (6) Double posts/threads are not allowed nor is creating threads in multiple categories with essentially the same text/meaning.

    (7) No posts advertising any product or service (whether for individuals, profit or non-profit organizations) are allowed except in the Marketplace category. No advertising of illegal items or pornography is allowed whatsoever. The item should have at least some basic relevance to politics.

    (8) Posting of hyperlinks is permitted (and preferred when quoting someone or something) but the post should contain some personal comment or introduction. Try to not post hyperlinks to sites that require registration, but if you do please try to warn the user above the hyperlink.

    (9) No posting of excessive amounts of text not related to the thread, especially if it takes up a significant amount of space on the post. This includes using the "." (dot) or other characters to create line feeds to make the post be extra large or for visual effect. This also include using bold characters in excess such that the post takes up an unreasonable amount of space.

    (10) When posting quotes by other authors or news agencies please give appropriate credit, preferably accompanied by a hyperlink to the original article. Very large articles should be posted as attachments preferably with a summary in the body of the post. All posts with such quotes must contain some type of comment by the user in the body of the post (subject and description do not count).

    (11) Hyperlinking to websites that require user registration to view a page with the relevant information is discouraged. If you do post such hyperlinks, please put a notice that registration is required above the hyperlink.

    (12) Multiple user accounts are not allowed, and are one of the few offenses that can lead to immediate and permanent banning.

    (13) Please understand that this site is privately owned and operated. Moderators are not paid for their services. With that in mind, we ask that you refrain from posting complaints and negative feedback on the public forums as we have found this to be the least constructive form of criticism, and discourse like this never ends well.
    Public discussion of any Mod actions, such as thread editing, thread removal, infractions, warnings and/or revocation of memberships is strictly prohibited. These decisions are made privately, communicated privately to the member in question, and will not be discussed with other members. If you are not pleased with the way this site is run or have an issue with one of the team, you are welcome to contact any member of the Mod Council, or the site owner. Posting about it in the forums and/or threatening to leave the site will not be tolerated. Any post in violation of this rule will be edited or removed without warning and membership to this site may be revoked.

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    For updated revisions please click on the "Rules & Guidelines" text link in the menubar.
     
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  2. Beagle66

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    I don't know why it's taken me so long to puruse the rules of the Forum.

    I find that I have probably broken three rules (unfortunately one today).

    I just find it hard to resist an occassional profanity (using symbols usually to get past the censor). I do believe that I've stopped doing this and after reading the rules (finally) I won't do it again in the future.

    No flame-baiting -- gosh, that's a really hard one when the news sometimes lends itself to such teasing. But I'm better on this.

    I like a lot of my opponents in here but sometimes I do pull their kitty-cat tails a little just to get a reaction. That's my worst failure at following the rules (and I think I did it today to JP5). I really do it because I know the person is one of the major players on this board and in my view it's a sign of respect -- but more than likely no one gets that. So I think I will quit doing that altogether.

    My question is I've been noticing just today some new moderator crackdowns -- I'm in here actually because I saw something about the word censor and use of symbols. What I'm really interested in is for the first time I've notice that at least one moderator is telling people, "OK, that's one time you've broken the rules" and even to tell someone that it was their 4th (and final) rule breakage.

    Are you all starting to crack down more than in the past or is that just a new moderator (which is what it seems like to me)? Gosh I know I don't want to be on my final fourth warning.
     
  3. SenaxFlatulus

    SenaxFlatulus New Member

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    I think you've just become aware of the rules enforcement, because we've been "on the job" as mods for about 4-5 months or so. We've added some mods and now we have 8, so there's more coverage.

    We use different methods to do our corrections. Sometimes we just delete a blatantly offending post, sometimes we PM the user and let them know either nicely to stop or just "KNOCK IT OFF!" Sometimes we post the link and the rule that was broken IN their post so everyone can see what NOT to do in the future. In general we try to intervene as little as possible, but sometimes that's hard to do.

    Being banned is not as common as some may think. The mods all discuss the user, who is almost always a repeat offender. (You'd be surprised at how well all the mods get along too.) At any rate, after a consensus is agreed upon, we make a recommendation to PF who has final judgement. He's like the board's "Supreme Court" so to speak.

    Most people who break the rules are new to the board and not aware of the policies. That's why PF posted them at the top of each forum index for people to reference. It's good that you took the time to make yourself aware of them.
     
  4. SporkLord

    SporkLord New Member

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    And before somebody asks, the no profanity rule cannot be removed. It is here to stay.
     
  5. jcwang

    jcwang New Member

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    Dear Forum Master:

    I am begging you to move "Display posts from previous: all posts– Newest First–Go"' All the way to the top of the thread. You don't know how inconvenient to scroll all the way down in order to select start from Newest Posts, in most political forum, posts start from the newest automatically but yours. I am about to develop arthritis in your forum just from scrolling... Please change.
    Thanks.
     
  6. SenaxFlatulus

    SenaxFlatulus New Member

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    Left click on the scroll "handle" on the right hand side of the frame, and drag it to the bottom right of the frame. It's much faster than scrolling.

    Scrolling only wears out your scroll wheel and gives you arthritis... as you now know.
     
  7. jcwang

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    Thank you Dear, I have been using computer since Macintosh plus[early 80's].I do know how to Scroll Fast. The truth is that at work every now and then I have a desire to visit this forum, I can not make this window TOO BIG so everyone at office can see me cruising the Internet. When the window is limited, Scrolling can really make you ANGRY... Of course the worst is when you are scrolling, your boss was behind you watching.

    It is just a simple layout function, this website owner can modify easily. Convenient to user is always good to welcome more users. Who want's to scroll all day?

    EVIDENTLY, THERE IS NO OWNER HERE, I HAVE BEEN BEGGING FOR THREE DAYS. WHO WANTS TO JOIN ME?
     
  8. ForceoftheTruth

    ForceoftheTruth New Member

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    A person called PoliticalForum owns this site, but that person only rarely posts on the site.
     
  9. JavaBlack

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    Nope. I discovered in the "PoliticalForum" post below that PoliticalForum does not own the site. Some other even more distant figure does.

    Scary, huh?
     
  10. jcwang

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    Lord! don't tell me this forum may be owned by homeland Security or FBI/CIA... Are we throwing ourselves right into Tiger's mouth? You'll never know these days.

    I am out of here... till he shows up.
     
  11. JavaBlack

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    Sometimes I wonder if we're all part of some weird sociological experiment... maybe on the addictive nature of online forums.
     
  12. SporkLord

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    ...I'm sure the Jews are behind it.
     
  13. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    it's a cooperative project between Dolphins and mice. Douglas Adams was right all along.
     
  14. jcwang

    jcwang New Member

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    Since you are not around, I am really talking to myself here...
    Sunday night and Yesterday morning, I just could not come to this site because of server error. Finally I decided to send you an e-mail to INFORM you. 20 minutes later, the server came back...
    Today, I had been trying to log-on all day,then I sent you an e-mail again, 20 minutes later,your server is back.

    Do I need to INFORM you every time when your server is down?

    Could this be my own problem?
     
  15. ForceoftheTruth

    ForceoftheTruth New Member

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    There have been three crashes in three days, though I don't know what caused them or how they were fixed. I'm not even a moderator.
     
  16. jcwang

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    Force: If this website continues to shut down by itself, what will be an alternative website for you to go to?
     
  17. jcwang

    jcwang New Member

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    >> Dear Webmaster:
    >Your site crashed again and agian!


    >> ok so go somewhere else...geesh. We're trying to keep it up but so many people rush back to the site it crashed again.

    He wants me to go somewhere else? then he geesh me....
     
  18. The12thMan

    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He might be having a bad day too, Jc. Some days you just geesh everybody. :giggle:


    PS. Don't leave.
     
  19. jcwang

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    12thwoman, Thanks for the comfort.
    I think that whoever wrote me back must be a young kid working on this website's server. Kids these days really don't know how to write e-mail with courtesy or manner. We have some vendors often send us[we,the client] e-mails without addressing the receiptant's name, with ordering/demanding attitude/phrase..... Of course, this is a FREE website, what am I complaining for?
     
  20. Jules

    Jules Guest

    Testing 1 2 3....
     
  21. Greekthought

    Greekthought Banned

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    When i try to quote a text,it is not appears as it should.What can i do?
     
  22. BoogiePeople

    BoogiePeople Banned

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    Dear Board Administrator:

    What the hell does a board member have to do to get booted off this board?? Seriously...I know politics and all are fair game, but when members start seriously insulting other board member for how they look, when does someone step in and maintain order??
     
  23. The12thMan

    The12thMan Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    BoogiePeople Banned

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    I guess I just expected a little more "preventative action" like I see on other boards.
     
  25. Joker

    Joker Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    Posts have been edited and warnings given. We just don't usually ban people easily. There's a multitude of steps to take before a ban is considered. Many people have reached guru status before they were banned.

    I prefer to edit as necessary rather than totally ban because most people do make meaningful contributions to the forum, even if they are sometimes rude.

    Long-time members sometimes get a pass on edits simply because they have a proven history of meaningful posting. New members don't get the same leniency.

    Of course, rude comments will slip in for a while under such moderation, and if your quick on the draw, you will likely see them before they are edited.
     

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