PM quits after UK votes to leave EU in historic Brexit referendum >>>MOD WARNING<<<

Maybe one of them should have tipped off the British government then? Most probably someone did but was ignored - ignoring important information seems to be inherent in public bodies these days, especially the plod.

 

Oh there's a lot more to him than that, as I'm sure he would prove if put t the test. You don't like him for some other reason.

 

The USA is the world war. And to remember - I wrote this:

I think by the way that the EU is completly under control of the secret services of the USA. Same with Germany. And I think the Brits were wrong to block "the way of the dragon to the water". Time to make a constitution now. We need democratic decsions within the EU and clear competences of the European Union and the States of the states of European Union. We need for example a weuroepan army tp be Abel to protect the borders of Europe. Greece and others aer not able to do so and Erdogan (=Turkey) is in worst case an Islamist and in best case a murderous idiot, who brings his country in a civil war instead to fight against Islamism.

 

For sure. Too much concentration on self-interests. Especially when everything is going tits up in the financial World. That's when many people make a killing. I am no financial expert, but I could nearly write a book on boom/bust economies (I joke), considering everything has happened here in Ireland for the last 20 years.

On the subject of economic experts and their warnings: In 2007 our former Taoiseach (Prime Minister) Bertie Ahern public stated to the economists who were directly warning the Irish government of an overheated Irish property market: "Sitting on the side-lines, cribbing and moaning is a lost opportunity. I don't know how people who engage in that don't commit suicide because frankly the only thing that motivates me is being able to actively change something..."

...He changed something, alright. He destroyed the Irish economy and brought about the worst property crash in economic history. Within two years he was before a tribunal of investigation into corruption, which showed that he was receiving payments from vested business interests, dating back to the 1980's. He even had the audacity to claim that he held cash in his safe for a year because he didn't have a bank account at the time, due to his ongoing divorce. When I say audacity, he was Minister for Finance at the time.

His only saving grace is that he was an excellent negotiator and along with both sides in Northern Ireland and Tony Blair (cough - Chilcot enquiry), he helped facilitate the Good Friday agreement and bring about relative peace to Northern Ireland. Something that could be threatened as a result of Brexit. This is part of the reason why I think Theresa May would be a better option than Michael Gove for UK PM. Gove in 2007 stated that he would like to tear up the Good Friday Agreement and take on the Provisional IRA. Gove is a dangerous man, considering the IRA have decommissioned their arms and have not been active since the peace process ended in 1999.

I am no IRA supporter, quite the opposite in fact. Just like a large majority of Irish people. But I do know what they are capable. Northern Ireland could be set back 30 years by what is going on. And the last thing the UK need is another terrorist organisation plotting against it. Considering the treat level form Islamists already.

 

Due to the deterioration expected in Britain's economy after Brexit,

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jul/01/george-osborne-scraps-2020-budget-surplus-plan

 

All will be revealed - in the fullness of time???

As to Gove - I don't know enough of the event you mention to comment, but what I do know is that by stopping Boris he's saved the Tory party from a future unmitigated disaster with that buffoon at the Despatch Box . . . of course whether 'saving the tory party' is a good thing or a bad thing is a matter of opinion!!

 

Any 'xenophobia' here is your own, railing against those with a differing opinion and calling them 'ignorant'. That itself is a great example of 'xenophobia', a word intellectually barren leftists recently discovered to replace their tired chants of 'racist', 'Fascist', and 'right wing'.

You probably will not see the irony in this but many others certainly will. There are 'experts' with a variety of opinions and they disagree with each other all the time. If 'experts' really had all the answers the public could leave everything in their hands, but in fact these 'experts' have been proven wrong time and time again. More 'xenophobia' also.

 

I hate the term the LEFT

However, it looks to me as if it is the same old rot.

Over and over the Socialists claim the people of Earth much march in one line as if robots.

 

Personally I don't see the need to produce a plan when there was no certainty of winning. In the event, they have at least 2 months to get themselves sorted, then be ready for when Article 50 is invoked? I think the dream team would be Gove and Leadsom.

 

I submit that all these hysterical accusations of of xenophobia and racism are as spurious as the recent alarmist statistic of 'a 57% increase in racist incidents' by the useless plod, and cynically contrived by sore losers; liberals can be really nasty when they lose, or are proven wrong, and will sink to any depth to sate their bitterness. As far as I can tell, anyone from abroad who is settled here, and paying their taxes,has nothing whatsoever to fear - at least I would sincerely hope not, but if anyone has any proof I'd be interested to read of it; indeed they're being needlessly frightened into believing that there is something to fear by the losers. The demo in London yesterday, led by the gobby Mark Thomas and his fellow-traveller anarchists, reminded me of the saying 'Empty vessels make the most noise.' Any future demos should be ignored with the contempt they deserve.

 

Protect the boarders of Europe???

The U.S. Military has Europe completely under it's protection.

Plus there is NATO as well.

AA

 

Considering a person can travel throughout the E.U. unfettered....and considering the number of militant extremists flowing I can understand why the U.K. wanted out.

AA

 

They're here al;ready, AA. In fact they've been here for years.

 

You remember me to a british soldier in the film "Gandhi" who was convinced India is part of Great Britain. The USA "defends" the own might and money - that's all what you are doing.

https://youtu.be/qh2D_4mTb1g

 

Count yourself lucky that they are.
Whatever their reasons, this advantages you. The alternatives are quite sucky.

 

I'm now going to lay the Westminster lies - and the national press lies, which I note this morning have already started with the denigration - about Michael Gove.

Firstly he didn't betray Cameron.

Secondly, he had genuine doubts that BoJo would cut it as prime minister - I actually share that belief, and I would also bet heavily that so does BoJo; he might act the fool but he isn't one. Now the point is that it was only a matter of hours before BoJo would announce his candidature, and having done so then the wheels would start turning. Therefore Gove had to make his move BEFORE the announcement otherwise there would be every chance that BoJo would become prime minister elect, and it would be only a matter of a very short time before the government became a joke. Boris is a showman, and not a very good one; but he'd make an even worse prime minister. Like I said, Gove has saved the Conservative party from humiliation. My dream team? Gove and Leadsom.

 

Property crashes (and others speculative ventures) have occurred everywhere and it is always due to human greed and a misunderstanding of how markets work. When property is going up everything who owns a property is a genius and when it goes down they look for someone to blame. A lot of it functions on 'The Bigger Fool' theory.

The UK has Muslims plotting against it, just as do most countries throughout the world, and to counter this threat they will bring in more Middle East refugees. It's a risky plan but if they don't recognize an overheated property market how can we expect anyone to understand how terrorism works?

 

Have you seen this 'empty vessel' from CNN? If this is an example we can see why so many are so deeply uninformed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Txz2Une4T9k

 

All the US has to do is remain the same while other countries around the world collapse due to their foolish economic policies, war-like tendencies or some other political nonsense. The EU had two out of three of these flaws so it's collapse was inevitable..

 

Thanks for that FCD, and it just goes to prove there really are persons who believe we should allow any number of migrants unfettered entry into this country irrespective of their status (ie proven repeat proven claims for sanctuary from war zones, natural cataclysms, political discrimination etc). These motor-mouth liberals, and that woman is absolutely typical of them, are a curse to this country - indeed any country. Two soubriquets exquisitely describe them - 'useful idiots' to those who mean us harm, and 'the enemy inside'. Their knee-jerk, unthinking compassion cause untold damage and misery to those who need our support until they can return to their own countries. Liberals are totally incapable of foreseeing the flaws in their superficial (childlike?) rationalising.

 

A dynamite fisher with slaveholder mentality spying in every toilet worlwide to find out what others are doing there?

You are an empire. And this empire will fall. The problem is not this. The problem is what are the living conditions. And the living conditions in the USA are a desaster. Example: 5% of the world population and 20% of the prisoners of the world live in the USA. You are a sick nation. So what about not to remain the same but to become sane?

https://youtu.be/rlHLu7-0XXk

 

Do you have links to support any of this?

The US remains stable, continues to draw people from all over the world, while Europe is once again goes through another one of their regular upheavals.

History has been on the side of the US for a very long while, during which time Europe's history has been pockmarked by world wars, genocides, failed economic and political theories, a mass exodus of people leaving for more freedoms and better opportunities and yet, ironically, they still feel the need to give advice to others.

 

So... While the British economy continues to slide and all the scenarios that were predicted have come true... How do the Brexiters feel?
Are they following their captains and abandoning ship?

 

It's done all this in a week?

 

What do you mean?