President Trump Signs 4 Executive Orders On COVID-19 Relief

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  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    There's a hell of a big difference between EARNED entitlements and all the handout welfare programs characterized by Democrat regimes -- a VAST difference. Before Trump gets on a campaign to screw with Social Security, he would do well to remember what a stunning, abject FAILURE that W. Bush had when he made efforts toward selling the American public the idea of 'privatizing' Social Security. Down in FLAMES!

    You EARN your Social Security, based on a lifetime of 'contributions' of your income (and that of all your employers). And, you EARN the right to Medicare based on 10 years (forty 'quarters' of working).

    You have your own individual Social Security account, all during the years that you are working. You can log into your account and see exactly where you are, and what your account within the Social Security TRUST FUND will pay you in return when you retire. Here's your sign-in link: https://secure.ssa.gov/RIL/SiView.action .

    Bottom line... it ain't communism if you WORKED to EARN it, and don't let any scheming, thieving, slime-bag politician tell you that it is! Moreover, if Trump really is stupid enough to try to do anything to diminish or do away with an EARNED benefit, he'll be out on his ass -- pronto! There are approximately 75,000,000 Baby Boomers who are starting to collect their EARNED entitlement, and they'll load him into an 'exit' tube in November, and 'launch' him back into his business empire at warp-speed.... Hint: Baby Boomers are notorious for voting every chance they get, and they were the last decently-educated generation this country produced!

    And Democrats? NO WAY in the WORLD would they touch Social Security... they know it is political SUICIDE even to talk about harming Social Security! Boomers may think Biden is a decayed, demented idiot, but they'll vote for him in droves if they get wind of a plot by the Trump admn. to gut their EARNED benefits....
     
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    this goes back to FDR's new deal, socialist security, etc....
     
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    privatizing entitlements gives a greater return on investment to taxpayers who already paid in as well as modern day investors.

    entitlements are a communist ponzi scheme which is exactly why it must be privatized.

    wall street and main street are divided because free market capitalism isn't allowed to flourish.
     
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    Dude - the Trumpeter wouldn't even take the virus serous enough to cancel a political rally or wear a mask ... arguing that
    he suddenly sees the virus as the greatest threat since WWII is pathetic pandering at it's worst.
     
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    Yet the lefties took it so serious literally millions hit the streets. Brilliant take and god forbid Trump does something for those in serious need because our government shut down businesses due to the china virus. Oh well lefty going to lefty I guess, Orange man bad....
     
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    Remember when Trump invited the press to sit in on the negotiations with Trump, Pelosi and Schumer? It pissed Pelosi and Schumer off because she couldn't lie about the proceedings like she usually does. Pelosi wanted 2 trillion in the first place so she asks for something totally ridiculous and then acts like she's mortally wounded to make a compromised. If Trump agreed to the two trillion you would complain about Trump increasing. No matter what Trump does the left will bitch so I am all for him shoving this situation up their ass.
     
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    Indeed. Even the Press Secretary couldn't say when the payments will start. And the governors, who only heard about this the same time the rest of us did, are saying they don't have the money. For those who still have CARES funding, it has already been allocated to virus related spending (testing, contact tracing, etc)
     
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    How did that milkshake drinking go? I don't see any mention of Chuck and Nancy wasting a phone call.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...-deny-outreach-to-trump-since-talks-collapsed

    How can that be??

    Sorry Donnie, looks like you don't have a date for Saturday night... the phone ain't ringing...

    But it certainly doesn't appear to the naked eye that Trump has missed many milkshakes lately...
     
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    He said Shmuck contacted him, and Trump told him he had 4 weeks to make a deal.

    Of course they deny it, but we know.

    Also, Trump handled an attempted gun man at the white house like a boss.
     
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    (*Sigh!*) OK, look, if Trump wants to try to 'privatize' Social Security and/or Medicare, then he can attempt that. He would be the next in line of well-known Republicans, including Chris Christie, Rick Santorum, and "W" Bush who have completely FAILED to get any traction with the concept. Too bad for Trump, though, because with the exception of his almost manic obsession with boosting the stock markets by any means imaginable, Trump has had some very useful, very beneficial ideas and policies. But Biden's handlers have already taken the issue and are working to spread the word -- which will actually be TRUE this time -- that Trump wants to take away their EARNED retirement.

    And before you put too much faith in 'privatizing' Social Security, remember this: WHAT THE STOCK MARKET GIVETH, THE STOCK MARKET TAKETH AWAY! If you read my earlier post about this, Trump will lose many millions of Boomer votes by trying to destroy SS, and he cannot (CANNOT) afford to do that and even hope to win the election.... Older people at retirement age aren't excited at all about the idea of watching everything they own given over to the 'tender mercies' of a hugely overvalued, fraudulently-stoked stock market!

    If you want to 'hate on' somebody about Social Security, than hate-on Frankie Roosevelt! He's the great Democrat demi-god who started this whole thing -- but it's been welded into the foundation of the entire American way of life since before any of us was even born! It's part of what you work for, and part of what nearly all Americans have counted on all their lives for their retirement.
     
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    A mob boss...

    I think you are confusing Chuck Schumer with Iran... a very common mistake

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-us-deal-iran-165302777.html
     
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    Trumpy at the Bat

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    Interestingly, Bartolo Colon got on Trump's scale last week and it read 164 lbs... Fascinating...
     
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    Great picture... but if he attacks Social Security and Medicare, his 'bat' will split right down the middle when he swings at that 'first pitch', and he'll 'ground out'.

    Trust me -- Boomers will never vote for someone who tries to steal an EARNED entitlement from them... never!
     
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    I know. He isn't going to attack either one, and particularly not before an election.
     
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    The Phillies reportedly once scouted Donald Trump

    ...But the Trump baseball thing is apparently somewhat legit and a former teacher of his told Rolling Stone that he was once scouted by the Philadelphia Phillies. Another report from earlier this summer says the Boston Red Sox took a peek in on Trump action too which would make a current-day Tom Brady happy.

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    https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/the700level/phillies-reportedly-once-scouted-donald-trump
     
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    Please dont assume things about me or put words into my mouth. I dont fit in your little box of preconceived notions.

    If Trump had agreed to the middle ground, I would have given kudos for being a reasonable individual who negotiates. Instead, he reinforces the fact that he is a little baby who only wants things his own way.

    And I dont really care about Pelosi or the press, as that's an non-sequitur to what I posted.
     
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    Trump took the middle ground. Benefits had ENDED-people are being evicted nationwide. Now they are back thanks to Trump.

    Things like abolishing voter ID (already passed law in 30-ish states) has NOTHING to do with Covid relief.

    Nancy was called out by media over the last few weeks by journalists-and she shouted them down-literally yelling NO! NO! NO! NO! at them.

    Trump is a problem solver, the dems aren't big on solving problems.

    Trump out maneuvered them period.

    Now the losers game plan is to scream about "unconstitutional slop" (lol Mark Levin broke it down for them), and scaring people by saying Trump is going to end SS and medicare (which they do against most Republicans anyway).

    Dems tried to shove their crap on America instead of helping Americans-and Trump pushed their crap right back in.
     
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    Lol. If one side wants 1, and the other side wants 3, then yes, the side that offers 2 is the one doing the negotiation and not the hardline position. You can squawk all you want about what's inside (I'm sure I could find things that the Reps want that arent covid related), but saying the Dems arent negotiating and taking the headline position is categorically false and the opposite of reality.
     
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    They could both be replaced by very substantial vested dedicated individual accounts for retirement and healthcare. Should not be proposed unless it includes credible details about sustained funding.
    IOW, Trump will not even discuss touching entitlement benefits.
     
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    Do you mean like a new FBI building and major renovations to the White House??

    https://www.businessinsider.com/sen...rovides-billion-for-a-new-fbi-building-2020-7

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/coro...0200729-4y72bvtjtvhvboytppe5b4dysy-story.html

    Things like those??

    Also, why would Trump want to buy the FBI a new building when they went to all that HOAX effort???
     
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    Oh crap... a car backfired in Grand Rapids Michigan this morning and they loaded Trump in the bunker...

    Gonna be a long 3 months for Bunker Boy...

    Fortunately for him, he'll get to enjoy his 2021 time split between the peace and comfort of Mar-a-Lago and various federal and state courtrooms...
     
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    Good point about the FBI building.
    Renovating the White House does some make sense - Trump will have to live in it for 4 more years. ;-)
     
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    4? he's never leaving.
     
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    I have heard that somewhere.
     
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