Putin Invites Zalensky To Moscow For Talks

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  1. PrincipleInvestment

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    I dunno ... where's Yulia Tymoschenko? Heard she was dying of covid.
     
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    The US government is a much greater liar than the Kremlin.

    The US government has been conducting a Global War Of Terror for 20 years or more. The Russian government, as this thread shows, is far more interested in real diplomacy.

    The US government has a solid record of military aggression during these last 2 decades and more. Russia has a solid record of diplomacy in these last 2 decades.
     
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    "US govt much greater liar than Kremlin"?

    Sure, Kremlin taught us well, many thanks.


    Us govt conducting global war on terror for 20 yrs?

    Sure....former SU was looking for global dominance.

    Russia has solid record of diplomacy?

    Sure, ask Ukraine and Georgia about their "diplomacy".
     
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    Probably still in Ukraine....can't say the same for Yanuk.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh then it wasn't Nuland that paid the protesters and Nazis to overthrow the legitimately elected president, it was Russia. But there you are, doing your Saul Alinsky bit again.


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    and of this world's destructive feats.

    And how to spread them far and wide,

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    "Russia has everything going for it in Ukraine, and all we have is our propaganda (lies)."

    This is what the Washington Intelligence Agent told the investigative reporter Robert Parry of Consortium news when he was asked why they weren't telling the American people the truth about the plane shoot down. It was the final jab at American journalism and honesty.



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    Lawl. No one paid anyone to overthrow Putin's puppet, and the secretly recorded Nuland phone conversation does not indicate otherwise.
     
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    Yeah right! All those protesters from the poorest part of Ukraine were trust fund babies, and could afford to stay in Kiev and protest for 3 months. As for the rest of the Ukrainians, they were working. Not as rich as them I guess. Oddly enough, some of the protesters were Poles. I guess they needed the money. Nuland probably felt the more the merrier.

    It was a lesson learned by Russia though. From then on, Moscow watched the cargo planes landing in neighboring countries, especially on their southern flank. That way they could warn them in time of their impending doom.


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    Yep! Here's comes another one.
     
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    Could you be any more silly or desperate? You think that being poor keeps people from protesting?

    You should try spending some time in the real world, or at the very least learning about it.
     
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    The two greatest threats to globalism are Russia and the USA. Getting them to knock eachother down has been priority one of the international financial elite ever since Russia opted out (kicked out) its western central bank.
     
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    People in the real world have to eat. The media made a point of calling the Wall Street protesters Trust Fund babies for not having to work. Yet not a word was said about the protesters coming from the poorest areas in Ukraine and how they could live for 3 months without funds.

    Oh that's right I forgot about Nuland's cookies.




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    Who feeds them cake. Oops! I meant cookies.
     
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    Some protesters were Poles....oh, you have links for that or are you flatulating again.
     
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    Jenny's real world is in front of her laptop, surrounded by ashtrays filled with cigarette butts and tons of empty pizza boxes strewn about.....24/7.
     
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    Again, could you be any more silly or desperate?
     
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  15. PrincipleInvestment

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    I imagine you're right. She's there opposing Zelenskiy at every turn, but the 4 yrs she spent in prison have tought her a few lessons haven't they? She didn't claim Zelenskiy rigged the presidential when she lost, and she didn't conspire with foreign goverments to stage a coup this time. Ain't it weird that Yulia got convicted for corruption but somehow is back in government, but Yanukovych had to go into exile just for being accused of corruption?
     
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    No accusation....he WAS corrupt.
     
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    I believe it was Hannity that had a map of Ukraine on FOX News during the protests, so he could show where the protesters were coming from. The hope was that they would start coming from other parts of Ukraine and not just from the Western part, but that hope was in vain. It never happened.

    When they interviewed the protesters during their march to Kiev, Hannity was shocked to find out that some came from Poland. They probably needed the money. I doubt they could afford to travel all that distance and remain in Kiev for as long as they did otherwise.

    Besides that, Poland wants Ukraine to be part of the EU so they would be forced to pay reparations for the genocide and also with the hope that they would give them back their city of Lviv.

    Now if you want to check the accuracy of what I said, then write to FOX and ask.
     
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    And Poroshenko who made billions while the Ukrainians were used as cannon fodder wasn't? Then again, wasn't Nuland's man Yats kicked out for corruption?

    At least Yanukovich thought of the Ukrainian people and refused to indebt them to the IMF and lower their social services 70% as well as double their gas prices. This is why he stopped the process of joining the EU until a later date, and asked Russia for a loan - something no other country would give him.

    As for the Western mafias Nuland put in charge, they could give a damn as long as their pockets were being filled. As for the Nazis on their payroll, they live on promises and hopes of future 'greatness'. They're just lucky they survived as long as they did.







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    Let's just say I have no compassion for hypocrites and liars, no matter how stupid and dumb they might be since the destruction they do is unimaginable.

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    And how to spread it far and wide,
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    My name is Vlad and chaos my game,
    to talk of fame and villainous gain,

    by terror, lies and gross deceits,
    and of this world's destructive feats.

    And how to spread it far and wide,
    through corrupt souls and satanic lies - Durandal


    FIFY
     
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    I don't think so. Do you want to get into the specifics regarding Yulia's criminal conviction? See, that should help sort out the nonsense about Yanukovych. Yulia lined her pockets, and Vlad Putin's too, by signing a deal that would keep Ukraine completely dependant on imports of Russian fossil fuels for a decade if not longer. Seems really strange that "Putin's puppet" Yanukovych would ruin that deal, and imprison Vlad's comrade Yulia for setting it up.
     
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    I wouldn't pay too much attention to the Guardian. They're a propaganda sheet. Rand Paul isn't the type of person to be deceived by such as Victoria Nuland and General Breedlove, and believe that Russian troops were invading Ukraine. Nor is Rand Paul the type of person that would go along with their lies for political expediency. He has much too much integrity for that.

    If I recall correctly, when the rag tag militia defeated the 6 thousand man Ukrainian army at Debaltsevo, the headquarters at Kiev said that not only was the Russian army involved, but they even used nukes. That's when they became a laughing stock.

    The Russian Federation never went against international law, since it's the only thing that holds rogue states like us in check. The Russian soldiers that did enter Ukraine, came unofficially and during their holidays. They did wear their uniforms, but did not bring weapons. According to the OPCW guards at the border, they would go to a depot and pick up weapons, and then to a shooting range and check them out.

    The so called Russian tanks that were all over the place, were Soviet tanks made in Ukraine - as were all the other arms. This doesn't mean though that Russia didn't help by allowing the militias to enter and exit Russia freely, as well as help in their coordinates etc.
     
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    Throughout its history, The Guardian has always been a left-wing publication, as they have stated in various articles.

    In review, story selection favors the left but is generally factual. They utilize emotionally loaded headlines such as “The cashless society is a con – and big finance is behind it” and “Trump back-pedals on Russian meddling remarks after an outcry.” The Guardian typically utilizes credible sources such as thoughtco.com, gov.UK, HuffPost, independent.co.uk, and the Miami Herald.

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    Not propaganda by any means, but not as credible as they could be either. Compared to Sputnik and the like, however, they're good:
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    All of that aside, you can't deny or dismiss what Rand Paul said simply because I happened to pick a Guardian article about it. Pick your poison - what he said was reported on all over.

    https://www.newsmax.com/world/GlobalTalk/Ukraine-Russia-Rand-Paul/2014/03/10/id/557156/
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/the-ron-paul-institute-for-putins-priorities/
    https://www.newsweek.com/putins-invasion-ukraine-dont-blame-west-311996
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rand_Paul

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    The USA has become the worst globalist of all. It doesn't respect other countries' borders nor does it respect its own. Instead it practices and promotes a globalist racial, religious, moral, cultural melting pot. Ancient Babylon was likewise globalist. This is why the book of Revelation symbolically calls the end of the age evil global empire, Babylon.

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