Putin to Merkel: Russia Never Interfered in Others Politics

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    I don't think there's much in terms of "souvenirs" in Ukraine, or anywhere in formerSU, anything of worth that wasn't nailed down , or welded, was stripped, stolen, stashed somewhere other than its original place,,:))).
     
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    :-D :-D :-D

    These were the new stealthy Russian tanks which are so superior to any of the Western crap Jeannette ... that is the reason that no agent saw them ;-)

    On the other hand can't be denied that Russia is supporting the Donbass rebels same way as others support the Ukrainian government in Kiev (and I mean the official Ukrainian government and official Donbass leaders , not the few Nazi militias fighting there on Ukrainian side and Russian side too).
     
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    'Humanitarian aid' is the money there and fuel of terrorism , and other anti - Ukrainian activities . Actually 70% have left occupied parts of Ukraine already
     
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    I do not know about participation in Iran, but it is well known that the US was involved in the coups in Libya. The result: full chaos and islamic terrorits rule the country. Iraq, Lybanon, Laos, Vietnam, Dominican republic, Yugoslavia. And finally, coup in Ukrane.
    What the hell the US can try to teach other countries to do something or not to do if itself it is a monster that intervenes everywhere? All of the BS which happens in the ME was created by the US. So you better shut up talking about the occupation of Uktaine by Russia.
     
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    First off, the US was BARELY involved in libya, obama had to be begged by the Euros to help them.

    Second, the US was in lebanon on a UN-sanctioned peacekeeping mission in the early 1980s. I don't recall the UN voting for russian troops anywhere.

    Third, the US would not have been in Laos or Vietnam had the russians and their commie allies not tried to turn SE asia into their next set of vassal slaves. The US/western presence there was a reaction to russian criminal engagement.

    The US has an INFINITELY better record than anyone else as far as building functional societies after they enter the country: Japan, Germany, South Korea, etc. I don't see Poland or Hungary thanking the russians for 45 years of uninvited oppression, subjugation and murder.

    The US has made foreign policy mistakes, but russia has been a CANCER for decades, and as someone not from the US, your whining about how "wonderful" russia is has the value of dust - its worthless. Stop wasting your time.
     
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    Help Lybia to set the chaos there? And by whom? By Europeans??? Sounds rediculous.
    Lebanon... Americans do not care about UN. When UN resolutions are in accordance with their militaristic plans, then it is OK for them, when not- they do whatever they want without any resolutions from UN, like in was in Yugoslavia. Russian troops are in Syria, for example, by the request of the president of Syria Assad. And on what bases are americans there? Who did invite them there? Russian military troops had even every reason to be in Ukraine as the legal president Yanukovich asked Putin to bring the army there.
    As for Vietnam, it was american troops there and not soviet, so what you are talking about is complete BS.
     
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    watch this and you will do all those blameusaforeverything , Libya has never been a state, just a vague geographical expression
     
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    When facts become important to you, let us know.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/03/obama-the-reluctant-warrior-on-libya/72678/

    Sure, that's why they pay for 1/4 of its budget.

    Who represents no one in syria. Has never been legitimately elected. Is part of a 50-year family dynasty.

    The millions of syrians being slaughtered, who have INFINITELY more legitimacy than assad ever will.

    Funny how you keep claiming dictators are the legitimate leaders; I guess having only known dictators for decades in russia has you thinking they are in any way "legitimate."

    As for afghanistan, as for TWENTY ONE countries during the cold war with russian troops in them, in cuba, and lots of other places - lots of russian troops in countries the people - not the dictators - never asked for them.

    It must suck to have to spend your life defending a monstrous, criminal dictatorship despised worldwide. Hope they are paying you well to do so.
     
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    US can invent the reasons why they intervened Lybia. The fact is there- it was US whose forces were there. By the way, Germany, for example was always against interventions in the countries affairs in the ME (like in Iraq). So what that US pays in the UN? They pay and do whatever they want do to in other countries.
    Assad was the only one who was elected as a president, there were no other presidents in Syria. And this is not your ****ing business to decide about their internal affairs and interact in the civil war.
    And of course, Afghanistan government asked Soviet Union to intervene.
     
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    Poster for Merkel's visit to Sochi.

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    A useful links for you.
    http://health.usnews.com/best-hospitals/rankings/psychiatry
     
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    Yes. Russians help the people of Donbass. For example. The Russians send humanitarian aid to the inhabitants of Donbass. Products, medications and so on. In addition, Ukrainian usurpers closed the supply of electricity and gas to the territory of Donbass, but the Russians, as humanitarian aid, opened gas and electricity supplies to the territory of Donbass. from Russia.

    Just like in Syria. The Russians help all people. This they are different from the inhabitants of the EU. For example. Do you remember how much there was a howl in the Western media about the "humanitarian catastrophe" during the liberation of Aleppo? Merkel screamed and moaned. She let tears and tore her ass hair from the grief of the peaceful inhabitants suffering in Aleppo ... But now Aleppo is released. Where are moans about the victims? Where is humanitarian aid from the EU countries and the US? Western media Scored into the mouth of manure and are silent.
     
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    Putin to Merkel: Russia Never Interfered in Others Politics

    Does ANYONE think Vladimir Putin would say anything else?

    "Well...to be honest we have been trying to destabilize elections in all other countries...sorry 'bout that."
     
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    [QUOTE = "Litwin, должность: 1067421201, член: 14012"] вы сделали хороший момент, Украина не была первой. Мускусная сегодня занимает части 4 !!!!!! страны, Грузия это худшее, 1/3 под москвичом оккупации. а просто посмотреть , какого рода «маршалом плана» они дали новых оккупированных территорий

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    Is it Detroit or Abkhazia?
     
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    Your attempt at irony against Russia is inappropriate. You know that the Russian hackers appoint the US president. The Western media is constantly written about this .... You are a banana republic.... So behave accordingly.
     
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    Is this Detroit?
     
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    Please refrain from placing further words in my mouth as they taste very foul.
     
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    I think these two laughably unintelligent statements sum up this poster well:

    And:

    This type of garbage post is a waste of my time, go spout such crap on RT.
     
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    Does anyone wonder if these russian trolls actually believe the crap they post, or are they just reading lines off a card in their office as they are paid to do so?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html

    "In Crimea, eastern Ukraine and now Syria, Mr. Putin has flaunted a modernized and more muscular military. But he lacks the economic strength and overall might to openly confront NATO, the European Union or the United States. Instead, he has invested heavily in a program of “weaponized” information, using a variety of means to sow doubt and division. The goal is to weaken cohesion among member states, stir discord in their domestic politics and blunt opposition to Russia."

    At this point, I'd actually consider cutting russia off from the internet entirely, and if china helps them re-route thru their servers, cut them off as well.

    Most of what is coming out of russia lately are trolls and hacking/theft of credit cards, etc. I am not seeing much vaue in allowing russia to be a part of the civilized world until they start acting like a real country and grow up.
     
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    And Russian hackers appoint the US President. Do not forget about it.
     
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    Rude. Inapropriate. Reported.

    Argue - but do it civil.
     
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    I did not understand anything that you wrote. Does your comment have any meaning? Or is it a random set of letters?
     
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    Really? So you admit that russian hackers exist? But but but we thought that it was all lies from CNN, that there was no such thing....derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....
     
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    Western media can not lie. The Russians are everywhere. The Russians appoint presidents in all banana republics. Not only in the US. :party:
     
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    Nice to see you are finally accepting the truth.

    Everywhere but russia as no one sane would ever want to live there. russia is getting like ireland; there's more of them - and their money - living abroad then there is in russia.

    Everywhere except russia, where only little putie boy gets to appoint the president.
     
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