Putin to Merkel: Russia Never Interfered in Others Politics

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    A Russian nationalist supporting the French nationalist banana republic, which appears to support every Russian nationalist dream of a breakup of NATO and the EU, a big gamble to put the Russian hacking cards on the table, I kind of figure Europe will see though it to a stronger counteracting force. Trump all of the sudden started liking NATO, and now I got a feeling a Le Pen banana might too.
     
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    No, ulus can not produce something productive, they can only create s&itt storms one after another. So much like in this time, he gave you 2 narratives which contradict to each other. T Snyder wrote in details how Muscovite propoganda works ...
     
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    Totally agree with you, how can French extreme far-right be such pathetic??? She promised the great France in the same time took 9 million euro from putler...Such loser
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

    "Former workers tell how hundreds of bloggers are paid to flood forums and social networks at home and abroad with anti-western and pro-Kremlin comments"

    "The nondescript building has been identified as the headquarters of Russia’s “troll army”, where hundreds of paid bloggers work round the clock to flood Russian internet forums, social networks and the comments sections of western publications with remarks praising the president, Vladimir Putin, and raging at the depravity and injustice of the west...Last year, the Guardian’s readers’ editor said he believed there was an “orchestrated pro-Kremlin campaign” on the newspaper’s comment boards."
     
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    This all kind of reminds me of something I read in the newspaper several years ago about Muscovites complaining about all the “blacks,” obviously being from the South I thought, “Where the hell do Russians get black people from.” Well they were not black, just brown ones.

    I think the French are freaking, because they never had a State of Georgia with a 60% actual black population, and I doubt many of them ever went to a school that had one black in 1968, and was 99.9% brown by the time it closed in 2009. https://www.publicschoolreview.com/leslie-j-steele-elementary-school-profile

    Le Pen wins, you can count the cars burning in Paris before they start, which will give new meaning to the city of lights. I got a feeling the putty cat hatters will actually do more than think about blowing up her palace. She loses, and Russia exposed, twice, I do not really think it could be said to be worth the attempt. She loses, and France goes more in the direction of Merkel globalism, without any restraint, and at some point they either learn to accept it or the second apocalyptic Trumpet sounds. The nationalists get this close; I do not think they will go away so easily, especially if it gets worse from their perspective.
     
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    Le Pen will lose. Because the EU is on the verge of collapse. Both in the economy and in politics. In addition, the EU has a high probability of new terrorist attacks and as a result of a big social explosion ..... Russian hackers benefit from Marin Le Pen as the main opposition party in France.
     
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    Oh dear ...
    Must this nonsense writing really be?

    Really ... again and again are the angels in this world sitting in Moscow and the devils are always the others if being USA, NATO, EU or simply Western. Forget this nonsense ... it is the same sort of BS if I start to say that USA is always doing the best and Moscow is always being the devil.
     
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    Russia interferes in the internal affairs of sovereign nations; really? How shocking! America has been doing the same for decades! But it's only a bad thing if Russia does it, right?
     
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    Robert Kee - a British prisoner of one of the German concentration camps, after he saw how the Germans Scoffed at Russian military prisoners, he wrote in his memoirs: "My God! I forgive the Russians for everything they do with this country (with Germany) when they come here. Absolutely everything .... "... Later he wrote:" They had every right to revenge, but they did not do it, because they were first of all people. "

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    And you still dare to talk about "evil Russians"?

    Incidentally, in the last war were killed Russian 27 million people . Many were killed with particular cruelty. If you make one minute of silence in memory of each deceased, you will be silent for 50 years. Therefore, do not tell me about military honor and the ability to remain a person even in war.
     
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    aQUOTE="Destroyer of illusions, post: 1067438645, member: 66515"]Robert Kee - a British prisoner of one of the German concentration camps, after he saw how the Germans Scoffed at Russian military prisoners, he wrote in his memoirs: "My God! I forgive the Russians for everything they do with this country (with Germany) when they come here. Absolutely everything .... "... Later he wrote:" They had every right to revenge, but they did not do it, because they were primarily people. "

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    And you still dare to talk about "evil Russians"?

    Incidentally, in the last war were killed Russian 27 million people . Many were killed with particular cruelty. If you make one minute of silence in memory of each deceased, you will be silent for 50 years. Therefore, do not tell me about military honor and the ability to remain a person even in war.[/QUOTE]

    Really?
    How many times more must I tell you that your common reaction of showing me how evil the Germans were in WW-2 is useless, because does not affect me at all with my family history where many were in concentration camps too?

    Come with something what is relevant to the topic and not of the bad part of German history which no one and for sure not I do deny or say it is a lie etc.!

    P.S.
    And when I point on your own history of Stalin Terror which costs millions of peoples live, then it is right you who deny this to be true! Why? Because it is uncomfortable and when I did right this in the past, you common reaction was the same as now with showing how evil the Germans were.

    And btw ... Soviet Defense Minister Jasov told that there were 37 million killed, but 27 sounds more realistic ... and of these 27 million were about 15 million civilians. Awful!
    But as experts tell too, not all of them were really victims of Germans. The Russian tactic of burnt area to leave behind cause many casualties too, as they caused still when Napoleon attacked Russia.
    But no, this is not any sort of excuse for the evil things which Germany did!
     
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    Stop competing already. Politicians suck, people rule.

    Problem is, politicians rule and people don't, as long as people argue over'n'over'n'over'n'over again with each other, "whose politicians are better".


    Politicians always benefit from discord, start talking to each other, and understanding each other.
     
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    "Stop competing already. Politicians suck, people rule." sovet mass rapes , is a crime against humanity not a politic

     
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    Oops, she lost.
     
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    What does this deflective nonsense have to do with 2017, or what little putie boy is doing now?

    Do you really want to bring up the russian history of the 1930s and 40s under Stalin? How insanely vile and murderous he and russia was at that time?
     
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    And not only lost... 2/3 of voters said "Non Madame" :-D
     
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    When you write about the millions killed by Stalin, I get the impression that you are delirious. Or live in a parallel universe.

    I've written real facts to you several times. Even showed photos of archival documents. But you keep writing nonsense....I will write one more time. Maybe it will make you turn on the brain.

    According to the archive data of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR (a memorandum for Khrushchev from the Interior Ministry), from 1921 to 1953, 642,980 people were shot for crimes, and 2,369,220 people were imprisoned. These numbers correspond to reality - there were no 100 million repressed people! In order not to yell with foam at the mouth, but to understand scientifically, it is a lot or a little, it is necessary to COMPARE these data with the data of other countries. Only in one year 2011 there were 2,266,800 prisoners in US prisons. In the USSR under Stalin, corrupt officials were shot. Today in China thousands of corrupt officials are shot every year. And the Western media do not groan about "Chinese repression." For the people, executions of embezzlers are good.

    Photo archive document.

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    If you constantly forget about it. Take a screenshot of the document and paste it on your forehead. To see when you look in the mirror.
    I'm tired of writing you the same thing.
    Or you act according to the method of Dr. Goebbels. He said if you repeat many times a lie, they start to believe in it. Call of blood?
     
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    1 \ 3 said "yes, madam." But you can celebrate the victory. Madame Merkel won the elections in France.
     
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    I understand your hatred of Stalin. In Stalin's time, homosexuals were placed in psychiatric clinics. Gay parades were banned. ... At you, as though it to express ..... - hatred at the level of a sexual orientation.
    You need to look at that era without prejudice.
     
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    Why "Unfortunately? It would be naive to think that Marin Le Pen will be able to win in such conditions. Is not it? The society must mature .... But for Marin Le Pen this election is a victory without a doubt. Yes, she did not become president of France. But it has risen to a new level in the political ladder. This is a victory without a doubt.
    Now her party is the most important opposition force. 30% voted for it. Is this a bad result? This is an excellent result. Especially if you count the native French, not Arabs, Africans, etc. The percentage of those who support Le Pen will be much larger.
    In addition, soon there will be elections to the French parliament. And there we will see what will be the alignment of forces.
    Personally, I am very pleased with this result Marin Le Pen.
     
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    Most people hate stalin because of the 3 million murdered Ukrainians starved to death when their food was stolen, the millions of murdered/tortured/imprisoned russians in the gulags in siberia, the millions of purged russians in the military he killed, and the millions of oppressed/tortured and murdered eastern europeans who had to live under soviet occupation after WW2...just a few of the multitude of heinous crimes he was responsible for.
     
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    numbers which olgino shows all over internet are fake, one Stalinist org. KGB made up for another Stalinist Khrushchev

    his is reality :

    https://www.rferl.org/a/Ukraine_Marks_75th_Anniversary_Of_Great_Famine/1351733.html
     
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