Question For John Atheist: Don't You Want To Remember Your Good Deeds Forever?

That chapter is an admonission to leaders to treat others fairly. It uses as an example that the weak and the young should be allowed to be prey.

It's one more restatement of the golden rule, directly more specifically to leaders.

 

According to the CDC, more than 90% of abortions happen on or before week 13.

About 1.3% of abortions happen after 20 weeks.

That accounts for all reasons. So, suggesting there are significant numbers of late term abortions performed for no medically related reason is ridiculous.

 

The Bible verse boldly, clearly, and specifically says that
human have rights. You were wrong.

"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue
oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of
their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed
of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the
fatherless."
__Isaiah 10:1-2

JAG

 

False (as usual)
As I recall there are some 400,000 abortions
each year and so 1.3% adds up to a significant
number -- about 10,000 -- so you are wrong
again.

JAG


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unbelief is just another way of a man saying that I am my
own God, I am my own Supreme Being and I want nothing to
do with the God that created me.

No its not its just unbelief and that's it.

 

Its sweet that you care, but relax, we will be fine just ceasing . Birds do it. Bees do it. Even educated fleas do it.

And yes, most of us will still live by the golden rule not believing, and some of us may even be heroes.

 

National Review= fake news

 

The "right" not to be prey or to be robbed?

Those are no more than basic laws of a society.

And, the admonition of those in charge does not rise to creating a right as referred to by our constitution and other documents.

 

Out of that 1.3% come issues of health related to the woman and to the fetus that justify termination.

The right wing effort to ignore such issues (even passing federal law to prevent the woman's very life to be of value) is just plain disgusting. Thankfully, it was rejected by the SCOTUS.

If someone wants to work to reduce the number of abortions, that is the VERY LAST place to start.

And, there is NO reason to believe that the sole method for reducing abortion is to write laws against women.

Let's remember that in this Christian majority country only a minority of the population accepts this idea of laws against women.

Let's remember that Canada has achieved lower percentages than the US without having ANY law on abortion AND having their healthcare system pay for them.

The USA method of laws against women is a failure.

 

You statement is incorrect Liberal befuddlement.
National Review is a highly respected magazine
that has not been contaminated with the disease
of Liberalism.

Start quote.
"National Review is an American semi-monthly conservative
editorial magazine focusing on news and commentary pieces
on political, social, and cultural affairs. The magazine was
founded by the author William F. Buckley Jr. in 1955.[3]
It is currently edited by Rich Lowry.

Since its founding, the magazine has played a significant
ole in the development of conservatism in the United
States, helping to define its boundaries[3] and promoting
fusionism while establishing itself as a leading voice on
the American right.[3][4][5]
End quote
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Review

JAG

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Incorrect.
It is NOT mere unbelief, rather it is exactly as I said
it was and it can be expressed this way also , , ,

Henry merely pretends to be an Atheist.
There is nothing Higher in Henry's world than Henry.
Henry is his own Supreme Being.
Henry is his own god.
The name of Henry's god is Henry.
The name of Henry's religion is Henryism.
The Religion Of Henryism.
Therefore Henry also practices the Religion Of Atheism
because Henry has a god named Henry.

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Moreover there is no such thing as an atheist.

Romans 1:19-20
Romans 1:19-20 says "since what may be known about
God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to
them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible
qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have
been clearly seen, being understood from what has
been made, so that people are without excuse."

Note the particulars in Romans 1:19-20
{1) There is information that can be known about God.
{2} This information is plain to men.
{3} God Himself has made it plain to them.
{4} It has been plain to them since the creation of the world.
{5} God's eternal power and divine nature have been clearly seen
{6} All this in understood from what God created.
{7} Therefore men are without excuse {for not believing in God.}

Psalm 19:1-4
"The heavens declare the glory of God;
the skies proclaim the work of his hands.
Day after day they pour forth speech;
night after night they reveal knowledge.
They have no speech, they use no words;
no sound is heard from them.
Yet their voice goes out into all the earth,
their words to the ends of the world."

Note the particulars in Psalm 19:1-4
{1} The Heavens declare God's glory.
{2} The skies above proclaim His works
{3} Day after day they speak of God's creative work
{4} Night after night they reveal God's works
{5} They use no literal word but their voice goes out worldwide
{6} Therefore all men KNOW there is a God

JAG

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Incorrect interpretation as well as Liberal befuddlement.
Isaiah 10:1-2 proves you wrong again. The Bible DOES
teach human rights. And no amount of Liberal Spin, Twist,
Wiggle, and Squirm can get rid of the FACT that the Bible
Does teach human rights.

JAG

 

Are you arguing with yourself?
I have not called for any laws against anything.
I merely mentioned abortion and that was all I did.

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My view is {and has always been} that there are no
political solutions to spiritual problems -- there are
only spiritual solutions to spiritual problems. As
time goes on, the Christian Church will eventually
Christianize the world and then the Christian Moral
Code will be obeyed from the heart and not have to
be enforced by the courts backed up with police
with guns.

Moreover, here in the 21st century, the Christian Moral
Code can NOT be codified and enforced without a
Police State -- this would create more evil than the
problems it was trying to fix. No to a police state.

JAG

 

My point remains solid. That have been SOME doctors
that have agreed to late term abortions when the
human baby person was indeed a human baby
person.

JAG

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Please list the rights you think these verses confer.

 

The Spin, Twist, Wiggle, and Squirm that you will use in
order to keep from having to admit that you made a simple
mistake is truly amazing. You said the Bible has nothing to
say about human rights and I gave you a bold, clear, and
specific Bible verse that said , , ,

"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue
oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of
their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed
of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the
fatherless."
__Isaiah 10:1-2

, , and now you want to Twist it so that the Bible has to
become a legal document like the Bill Of Rights in order
to satisfy your original incorrect claim , ,

, , when all you have to do is just say Okay I made a
mistake the Bible does have something to say about
Human rights.

Best.

JAG

Bible Verse For Today

"Because he loves me," says the LORD, "I will rescue him;
I will protect him, for he acknowledges my name. 15He will
call on me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble,
I will deliver him and honor him. 16With long life I will satisfy
him and show him my salvation." __psalm 91:14-16

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You failed to answer my question.

I asked you to list rights identified in the Bible.

I do NOT believe you have an answer.

 

Sorry its just unbelief and you've already proven that atheists exist.

 

Your Spin, Twist, Wiggle, and Squirm will not
save you. You were WRONG. and here is
why you were WRONG , ,

WillReadMore Wrote:
I believe that our success has come from how we set up and run our government.

That includes the establishment of individual rights, the separation of church and state, our careful brand of capitalism moderated by a wide range of laws to keep it from killing us (the SEC, banking regulation, patents/copyrights, etc., etc.), and other features.

Suggesting these features so important to our success came from the Bible is just plain preposterous. The Bible says nothing about individual rights. It doesn't suggest dividing religion from government, thought at times there are calls to accept existing leadership even when it is FAR from Christian. There is nothing to suggest capitalism as we know it.

There IS Mosaic law requiring the wealthy to provide aid to the poor upon request and providing for forgiveness of that debt - an early demonstration of laws regulating aid to the poor instead of leaving aid to the poor as individual acts of charity.'
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Link: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-deeds-forever.576683/page-14#post-1072111590

JAG Presented:
"Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue
oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of
their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed
of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless."
__Isaiah 10:1-2

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Just admit that you made a simple mistake.

Can't you do that?

JAG


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There is room in the world for both me and you.
My view is there is no such thing as an atheist.
You do not agree.
I am not going to budge 1/800 of an inch.
I don't expect you will either.

These Bible verses clearly teach there is no such thing
as an atheist.
Romans 1:18-20
Romans 1:18
Romans 2:15
Psalm 19:1-4
Ecclesiastes 3:11

Best Regards.

JAG

Bible Verse For Today:
"We are therefore Christ's ambassadors, as though God
were making his appeal through us. We implore you on
Christ's behalf: Be reconciled to God. God made him
who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might
become the righteousness of God"
__ 2 Corinthians 5:20-21


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An atheist is someone who does not believe that god exists, you have already admitted that people can believe in something that is not true. Son you are going against logic.

 

I do not worship and serve the False-god-Logic.
All men know there is a God because the Bible says
they do.
I have 2 choices:
{1} Believe you.
0r
{2} Believe the Bible.
I choose {1}

JAG

Bible Verse For Today:
"At that time Jesus, full of joy through the Holy Spirit,
said, "I praise you, Father, LORD of heaven and earth,
because you have hidden these things from the wise
and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes,
Father, for this is what you were pleased to do."
__The Lord Jesus {Luke 10:21}


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@WillReadmore
Here is a good article on the Bible and Human Rights.

Start quote.
"Today, Christians are still working to combat human rights abuses and
to promote the welfare of all people. As they preach the Gospel around
the world, they are digging wells, planting crops, giving clothes,
dispensing medicine, and providing education for the destitute.
This is as it should be. There is a sense in which the Christian
has no “rights” of his own, because he has surrendered his life to
Christ. Christ “owns” the believer. “You are not your own; you were
bought at a price” (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). But God’s authority over
us does not negate God’s image in us. Our submission to the will of
God does not annul God’s command to “love your neighbor as
yourself” (Matthew 22:39). In fact, we serve God most when we
serve others (Matthew 25:40)."
End quote
https://www.gotquestions.org/human-rights.html

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I linked you to this article ONLY as a point of interest
and NOT as any proof of anything -- so don't take it
as a proof for anything -- is is NOT a proof for anything.

JAG

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Are you feeling fatherly toward me?
If so much appreciated.
Of course I have 6 grandchildren.

Best.

JAG

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I'm still going to comment as you still suggest this is about human rights.

But, it is an article on charity and DUTY.

I fully agree that the Bible says a lot about duty.

And, I'll agree that the golden rule can stimulate people to be more sesitive and supportive of of what human rights may become established.


The article points to our founders. But, unlike the Bible, they established specific riights that they claimed all persons have by birth. The rights they spelled out are not identified as rights in the Bible. And, they aren't

Beyond that, today Christians fight AGAINST some of those very rights. They demand to be allowed to DENY those rights to others. In fact, the Arizona legislature passed a bill to allow people to not just deny rights but to ignore a vast expanse of law as long as the illegal act in question is claimed to be religiously based.