Ramaswamy proposes raising voting age to 25, unless people serve in military or pass a test

Sounds like Trump. Maybe we should use a sliding scale of maturity rather than physical age ...

 

That's not entirely untrue. He got rid of the SALT deduction. And many Democrats opposed that.

I think he offered the Democrats deals several times, which included eliminating tax deductions, but the Democrats were so stubborn they didn't want to give him anything. I think Trump might have been willing to do more but wanted a few things in return, was trying to leverage it. Which is really not that uncommon. Politicians have to hold out to get deals and be able to advance proposed policies. That's how Washington often works.
And it certainly wouldn't have made sense to support increasing taxes if he did not have some say in where that new money would be spent, which of course Democrats were not very cooperative.

But we're getting off topic from the original discussion.

 

Oh, my.
Ramaswamy just threw himself on the political 3rd. rail.

'U.S. presidential candidate vows to end 'special treatment' of Israel'
Source: I24

'Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said on Friday that Israel should not be treated differently than other Middle Eastern countries and vowed to cut U.S. aid to the Jewish state.

The politician said in an interview on the right-wing social platform Rumble that “there’s no North Star commitment to any one country, other than the United States of America.”

“Come 2028, that additional aid won’t be necessary in order to still have the kind of stability that we’d actually have in the Middle East by having Israel more integrated in with its partners,” he said as 2028 is the year when the current U.S. aid package of $38 billion expires.'

Read more: https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/inte...idate-vows-to-end-special-treatment-of-israel



'Ramaswamy: Cut Off Aid to Israel After 2028'
Presidential hopeful has repeatedly shifted position on aid to Jewish state

https://freebeacon.com/national-security/ramaswamy-cut-off-aid-to-israel-after-2028/

 

He has been advised to not **** in his mess kit.

 

DUH!
Been there done that.
Who ever thought that up as your political opening salvo needs to be fired.


"Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy is making an appeal to voters at the 2024 Republican presidential primary debate by seeking to distinguish himself as an outsider.

“I'm not a politician, Bret. You’re right about that," he said, in response to a question from Fox News moderator Bret Baier Wednesday night about why voters should choose him over more experienced candidates.

"I do think, Bret, it's going to take an outsider," he said about making the American dream achievable for the next generation. "Because for a long time we had professional politicians in the Republican Party who have been running from something. Now is our moment to start running to something. To our vision of what it means to be an American today."

 

yeah, and I feel only net tax payers should vote in elections that have implications concerning tax rates and policy

 

Ramaswamp-y is huffing again.


'Vivek Gives Insane Answer on What Pence Should've Done on J6'
'This is the most bizarre answer on this I have heard yet.'

'Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy went on Meet the Press today and began the interview saying that he would ask Trump to serve as his "mentor" after defeating him in the Republican primary. I'm not sure what is more delusional - thinking he would win or that he would have any relationship whatsoever with Trump after defeating him.

But Vivek was just getting warmed up.

Chuck Todd pointed out that while the other candidates on the GOP debate stage last week answered whether they thought Mike Pence did the right thing on J6, Ramaswamy never answered the question. When he asked him today what he would have done, Vivek gave a bizarre answer that clearly demonstrates that he either has zero understanding of how our constitutional republic is supposed to function, or he knows and doesn't much care.

Ramaswamy said that, in his role as President of the Senate (VP), he would have demanded that Congress on J6 agree to mandate that all elections in America take place with single day voting, paper ballots, and photo ID, and would not have certified the election on J6 until Congress agreed with those demands. So, no early voting, no mail in voting, no absentee voting. Make it as difficult as possible to vote to try and perpetuate Republican minority rule.

cont:
https://www.meidastouch.com/news/vivek-gives-insane-answer-on-what-pence-shouldve-done-on-j6

 

Put that damn pipe down.

'Vivek Ramaswamy: My 10 truths for the 2024 campaign'

This entire presidential campaign is about speaking the truth.

Especially when it’s hard, when it’s uncomfortable.

There’s no “your” truth or “one” of “many truths.”

It’s just the TRUTH. An undeniable reality.

I’d rather lose this race and speak truth at every step than win by saying what I’m “supposed to.”

1. God is real.

We come from different walks but are bound by a common creed.

 

Incredibly stupid people of all ages have the right to vote.

Younger Americans are better-educated than ever,

 

Ramaswamy is far, far brighter than Trump, and a vastly superior conman.

He knows how to perform and tell Trump's cult what they want to hear.

 

It's a perverse idea to demand civics tests for those not in the military.

Is he planning on teaching civics, history, etc., to all troops?

 

He also shares Trump's history of running for the presidency as the very first time attempting elective office.

The methods of leadership in elective office are INCRDIBLY different than those in private enterprise.

As for this one candidate, he actually IS a Trump cultist, with his objectives of ending the DoE, FBI, and DoJ either completely or as we know them, etc.

He's another rich businessman with NO record in governance.

 

He is parroting the old bugger facing multiple criminal indictments to commandeer the adulation of his aging, less-educated angry white men, pandering to their alienation from America.

Trump's expiration date has passed and for, Ramaswamy, it's a win-win. If not now, he'll have them trained for later.

 

Absolutely not! Voting young is our birthright.

This is just another example of Republicans trying to disenfranchise voters of the Democrat variety under the misguided notion that voters increasingly vote for the right as they age.

 

He's just able to run his mouth a lot faster then Trump while talking and talking over the interviewer.
I don't think Trumpers are even able to grasp what he's blabbering.
Trump is able to woo his stooges, then woo them some more, RamaSwampy lacks that talent.
What they do have in common is that any supporters these guys garner it's guaranteed that they don't ever fact check on either conman cause facts don't matter.
Both make unconstitutional/fascist/ridiculous promises they'll never be able to deliver all the while trying to out due each other,

Here's his latest.

'Ramaswamy says he’d deport children of undocumented immigrants born in the US, calling 14th amendment ‘contested’

snip

'Vivek Ramaswamy said he would deport the children of undocumented immigrants with their families, despite them already being U.S. citizens Friday.

“There are legally contested questions under the 14th amendment of whether the child of an illegal immigrant is indeed a child who enjoys birthright citizenship or not,” Ramaswamy said after a town hall in Iowa.

Ramaswamy is not the only GOP candidate to question U.S. citizenship rules. Former President Trump announced in late May that on his first day back in office, he would seek to end birthright citizenship by way of an executive order.' cont:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...n-in-the-us-calling-14th-amendment-contested/

 

Screw that, some of the biggest idiots I have ever met have been leaders in the military. I don’t want them having a greater say in the direction the country goes in.
I am fine with 18 year olds voting. They are the least likely to be entrenched in agendas to get themselves rich at the expense of others, and they are the most idealistic. Idealism is what I want in a voter, someone looking to make the world a better place. Maturity be damned. Mature people are as ****ed up if not more so than children.

Older voters are more likely to be mindlessly dedicated to a political party. I’d be more eager to ban Democratic and Republican Party members rather than ban 18 year olds from voting.

 

Interesting! All the reasons you like the 18 year old voter (idealism unmoored from contract with the real world, no fully formed thoughts on policy or the world) are all the reasons I don't like them!

 

There was a movie about that. It's called Starship Troopers.