Report - Pedophilia more common among "gays"

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  1. JeffLV

    JeffLV Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Come over to my house later, I'll fix you right up. Just need to find my magic wand and fairy dust.
     
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    But the point of me asking the question, that I doubt I'll get an honest answer to, is that even IF this claim is true, it has NOTHING to do with SSM. SSM will not create new homosexuals. It will not cause existing ones to be more likely to abuse a child. Homosexuals who are going to abuse are going to do so whether or not SSM exists or they are in one or not.

    So unless they're prepared to call for draconian measures like incarcerating or executing ALL homosexuals (I'm sure some of them actually want that), it's completely irrelevant to the SSM debate even IF the ridiculous claim is true.
     
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    They just don't like the social acceptance of homosexuality and same sex marriage. It makes them obsolete. They are struggling to remain relevant in a culture that has no use for them.
     
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    CausalityBreakdown Banned at Members Request

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    You don't even knew what the words you're using mean. Please learn them and come back some other time, once you understand the concept of sexual orientation.
     
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    what words would that be?

    proclivity or homosexual-sex?
     
  6. rahl

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    Sometimes.

    Sometimes.
    But as has been repeatedly proven to you, there is no proclivity. The overwhelming vas majority of pedophiles are heterosexual.

    Maybe if people 😉 would stop pretending they aren't attracted to the same sex, they would live a happier life and wouldn't obsessively search out gay websites and spam the forum with any and all things gay?
     
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    and preachers.... when a preacher is discovered, sadly the church is more likely to attack the victim then the preacher....

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    interesting

    so only sometimes when a male sticks his jimmy into another male is it homosexual-sex?

    Please, what is it called when it's not? Would that be heterosexual-sex?

    I can hardly wait for the reply

    that is where the homosexual movement is left. When the facts reveal the ugly truth, simply redefine a word
     
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    Yes sometimes it's rape.

    nothing has been redefined.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    So, the definition is to be......male/male sex is not homosexual sex

    I find that to be quite humorous
     
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    Depends.

    Sure you do.



    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
  12. JeffLV

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    There is a reason, for example, that we tend to lock people up in prison who kill another human for revenge as opposed to killing them in self defense. Both are "killers" in the literal sense, both performed the same action, but both have wildly different risks. It is appropriate to consider more than the action itself, but also the motivations behind it,

    Which is why the dictionary-definition of "homosexual" has entries for both meanings, one describing the "motivation and desire", and the other describing the action itself.

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual

    1: of, relating to, or characterized by a tendency to direct sexual desire toward another of the same sex
    2: of, relating to, or involving sexual intercourse between persons of the same sex


    Obviously there is a large overlap between the two, but not every person who "directs sexual desire" towards members of the same sex actually does so. And on the other hand, not everyone who was involved in sexual intercourse with the same sex had a sexual desire to do so. For example, the person may have had no desire at all (a rape victim, for example), the person may have desired to do so for non-sexual reasons (prostitution & pornography comes to mind), or the person may have a sexual desire that is not directed towards the other on account of their gender, but for other reasons (i.e. a sexual desire towards old people, young people, etc., where the gender of the person is merely incidental rather than a motivating factor).
     
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    Nope.

    male adult on male adult sex is homosexual

    male adult on male child sex is pedophilic homosexual, which is distinct


    These are separate categories. Most pedophilic homosexuals are actually heterosexuals when it comes to adults, just like you and me, so their offenses reflect badly on the heterosexual majority, not on homosexuals, as you would like to pretend.

    You are the one playing word games. Your entire argument is that the word "homo" can be used to describe both of these groups if we ignore other things, so they must magically be the same.
     
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    Some people try to link things they think are wrong to things that are considered criminal. It's an attempt to justify their own feelings. There is no logical conversation that can be had in this case. It is entirely emotional and frankly a bit desperate.

    It's called confirmation bias. They want the end result to agree with their previously held opinions, thus they target data and skew data in order to justify it.
     
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    the agenda is to ignore the correlation between kids who were molested early, and them becoming gay as adults.

    It screams major things homosexual activists don't want to hear

    For instance... That something in the child's environment affected his sexuality as an adult... ie - he wasn't born gay


    and anything that suggests something other than born gay is to be immediately dismissed.

    it's the same thing with women who are beaten lesbian.... by an abusive spouse/bf and they swear off men. "no no.... she was always secretly lesbian to begin with, she wasn't affected by her environment"
     
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    What about the guys who were molested when they were boys, by another male, and are completely straight?
    What about the gay guys who were never molested by anyone and are gay?
     
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    that's why I said 'correlation' not "being molested turns you gay, garan-damn-tee'd"


    not every woman who's been domestically abused turns lesbian either.

    Molestation or abuse is but one of MANY environmental concerns that need to be studied. BUt to suggest study in these intances... is homophobic and bigoted to the homosexual activists?
     
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    Correlation does not mean causation. You are automatically saying that there is a link to homosexuality and pedophilia, why? Why is it the anti-gay folks try to link pedophilia and homosexuality together, yet completely blow off heterosexuality when heterosexuals diddle little kids? MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    I agree, it doesn't, or else we'd see 100% of molested kids turn gay, or 100% of abused women, turn lesbian...

    But there is also a correlation between high salt intake and blood pressure, as well. Just because I eat enough salt to kill 3 men, and have perfectly healthy blood pressure, doesn't mean we should just dismiss the fact that a way to control my mother's bp is to cut out salt.
     
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    That's just it, the anti-gay crowd dismisses it when a heterosexual does it, but then tries to link the cause of pedophilia to homosexuals when a homosexual does it. That simply is incorrect.
     
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    what are yoiu saying, I'm not clear. are you saying that when a boy is diddled, and turns out straight, it's BECAUSE he was diddled?
     
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    No, I'm saying that when a molestation happens by a gay person the anti-gay crowd tries to point and say "It's because that person was gay that he molested that child". Yet when a heterosexual molests a child they just say the molester was a pedophile.
     
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    well, while that may be true for some out there..... I don't think being gay means you have to molest a child.... I don't think that. I think molestation is temptation meets a weak will and opportunity... and that goes for when it's a hetero molestation, or a homo molestation.

    What I'm focusing on is the fallout years later, for the boy that was molested.....if we are seeing a high percentage of former victims becoming gay .... maybe we should investigate that more closely..... Why is it ok to investigate the number of pedophiles that were victims of child molestation.... yet, it's taboo to investigate the number of molested kids that turn gay later in life?

    #agenda


    because anything that makes gay look like it's affected by environment is to be dismissed as homophobic and bigotted.
     
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    So if there are a high amount of children molested by heterosexuals that turn out heterosexual, does that then warrant research by you as well?

    Seems you are the one supporting an agenda. When heterosexuals are pedophiles, it doesn't seem to concern you but if a homosexual is a pedophile, that seems to warrant "research" by you. Yep, its you with the agenda.
     
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    Why don't you start the research? See how many gay men were molested as little boys. How many lesbians were molested as little girls. How many lesbians were abused by men. How many molested little boys are now gay vs. straight. How many molested little girls are gay vs. straight. Once you complete this research, I'd be curious to know exactly what you find out. And to help you start, I'm a 31 year old gay male that was never molested or abused. And to add more to it, I had both a mother and father living at home. I mainly hung out with my dad in the garage working on cars.
     
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