Report - Pedophilia more common among "gays"

if those people existed, perhaps that is worthy of a thread.

This thread however is about the higher ratio of homosexual pedophiles than of heterosexual

 

it's middleschool 101.... if you don't like something, it's "gay" if you don't like someone... they're a f-got, or queer..... you are simply applying 6th grade logic to an adult conversation.

 

I don't understand how you can come to this conclusion. Maybe it is because you are posting from your classroom.

 

I've asked for someone to point out the insult. Maybe you'd like to give it a stab?

 

Can you point out the insult?

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But there isn't a higher ratio.

 

There have been studies on this topic, and they do confirm that homosexual men tend to have bren abused more. You have to be careful understanding what yhis means, though. For one, gay children tend to be homeless more that straight kids. Prostitution is a way to make money. Gay kids also tend to be much more secretive and have less guidance from their parents. Trying to understand their sexuality, they are more likely to experiment and explore behind their parents backs. They have fewer role models and may be seeking attention and acceptance in the wrong places. They have no risk of pregnancy. They are also more likely to be the target of abuse by their peers for discriminatory reasons. It also just to happens to be that pedophiles prefer targets that have low self esteem which they believe they can control, so it may also be the case that a gay child suffering from low self esteem is more likely to be targeted.

These, among probably other reasons, all contribute to a greater likelihood that a gay child has been abused.

Causation is still at question. I would not be suprised that some number of abused kids end up responding to that in many different ways.... including unnatural homosexual impulses. We have seen this happen among boys who were abused, being more likely to abuse when they get older. But this only explains a extremely small segment. Studies on epigenetic factors, the utter failure of "conversion efforts", the fact that homosexuality exists at approximately the same rate across cultures with wildly different levels of acceptance for homosexuality... these, among many other reasons, indicate that for the vast majority of people it is not a simple environmental cause. Mental issues are almost always comorbid with other issues (I.e. an abused child who grows up to abuse others will likely have other issues besides). But for the vast majority of gay people who have grown up in a supportive family, they are no different than their heterosexual counterparts.

 

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/gay-conver...w-im-happily-married-heterosexual-dad-1443188

this guy doesn't think conversion efforts were an utter failure....

 

Okay, <1% success still equals an utter failure.

And bisexual people getting into heterosexual relationships have nothing to do with the successfulness of therapy.

 

You don't read posts your respond to do you?

 

I suspect it has the same percentage of fail rate as AA would. Of course, alcoholics haven't been programmed to believe their entire lives that they were genetically born drunk... or that nothing was wrong with being drunk when it broke up their families like gays are told.

so to expect G.A. to be able to undue a lifetime of conditioning in 1 month..... yeah... probably not going to have a shining record of success.


Still, if a gay wants to go to one of these conversion therapy places, of his own free will, noone should stop him or try to legislatively limit his options simply because YOU don't want a gay to convert to heterosexuality.

 

AA and any other pseudo therapy is fraudulent.

They should be illegal because they are fraudulent.

 

why, because you don't agree with them? I think astrology is fraudulent, too, but so long as it's free will to go, then so be it.

and if I want to send my kids to a fortune teller, then that's my right as a parent.

 

No, because they have no merit.

Astrology is marketed as entertainment. If they marketed this as entertainment it wouldn't be fraudulent.

Or a movie or a play ground. Yes I agree.

But fraudulent "therapy" isn't marketed as entertainment.

I don't think that fortune tellers say that they can help you stop doing drugs.

But good comparison, fortune tellers to AA type "therapy" that is very apt. I call it voodoo.

 

but voodoo isn't "entertainment".... yet, if you want to do it... and raise your kids with Voodoo, that's your right.


you can label it all whatever term you want... but so long as it's free to come and go as you please..... it's not up to you to determine if I should be allowed to take my child there. Why do you hate freedom so much? is it because someone thinks differently than you?

 

voodoo is a practice but parts of it are illegal such as human blood sacrifices. Because they are harmful to people. Parts of this AA ritual should be illegal because they are harmful. They take advantage of weak people through fraud.

People who think it's okay to torment others with false promises and phony therapies do think coherently than me. But it's not because they think differently, it's because they support fraud and praying on the weak for social notoriety.

I don't hate freedom, I just disapprove of wicked practices such as phony therapies and abusing children. I don't really care if you say you are doing it for your God.

 

you'll keep trying to disassociate freedom of choice in how I raise my child with other choices you aren't concerned with.


Bottom line.... you don't want someone saying/teaching that gay is a choice and therefore, want to outlaw it.


sex therapies for children already exist for a miriad of legit reasons. you just don't agree with this particular flavor of sex therapy. I don't want electroshock therapy.... but using time tested therapy practices like in any other form of child therapy..... conversion therapy should be allowed and supply and demand should dictate it's availability, not your agenda

 

Oh look a teacher that supports child abuse as long as the parent is the one doing it.

 

While others ^ childishly accuse you of stupid crap....I will say I agree with you here:

No one would want someone teaching their children to believe differently than they do.

I don't blame them, of course... but I believe parents are allowed to raise their kids how they see fit. Short of abusing them.

 

If you choose to abuse your children, that isn't a freedom you have. And the public should step in.

I want to outlaw abuse. Quack therapies are abuse.

Well the lack of legit reasons, legit science, clinical testing and valid theory for the particular "therapy" you're talking about really makes it, not legit. The fact that the premier mental health organization denounces it as harmful further seals that.

But completely ignore this and say that I'm doing something that I'm not because it's easier than having an honest discussion.

Time tested therapies have some legitimacy. When a therapy has been proven a failure through time, as conversion therapy has, it's not legitimate.

Conversion therapy is a fraud. Explain how somebody's sexuality can be converted. Show clinical testing and methods.

Selling fortune telling as therapy is fraud, much like selling a rhinoceros as a automobile would be fraud.

Show me actual successes, not anecdotal nonsense from people that want to fit in at church.

Or again ignore this because you can't honestly defend your position.

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Conversion therapy is abuse.

 

except when it's called "sensitivity training" and it's mandatory, for people who don't agree that you are born gay....

 

That isn't "therapy" that promises to convert somebody's sexuality with aversion techniques.

Further I don't think sensitivity training causes any harm.

I don't think it's mandatory that people attend such a thing either.

 

it's forcing someone to change their mind under threat of punishment.


I suppose, if we forced gays into re-education camps.... er, I mean, sensitivity training, and threatened jail time, that would be an ok form of control.... but when it's voluntary... somehow it becomes abuse to you....


strange. Again, why do you hate free will and choice so much?

 

I wouldn't expect you to feel any other way.

For me... being forced to sit thru a Lil Wayne or Nickelback concert would be abuse.

 

It's much easier for a pedo to get access to children of the same sex than it is of the opposite sex.

Jerry Sandusky wasn't a homosexual, he was a pedophile.

You don't see many men leading girl scout troops.

The answer really is as simple as that.

 

And you don't see any men in girls' bathrooms.

Well.... until now.

Apparently it's not.