Ron Paul Wins the Virgin Islands! (Romney Takes Majority of Delegates...)

http://www.whnt.com/news/whnt-ron-p...-gets-most-delegates-20120311,0,2341164.story

I love this quote:

"While Dr. Paul getting more votes is a moral victory, during this phase of the campaign, it's all about the delegates."

So, it is the delegates that are important? Not the popular vote? Interesting...

 

This is very interesting.

The delegates are not automatically going to whomever wins the state caucus or primary vote.

 

Exactly! It depends on the State, and on the organization of the different candidates' supporters. Ron Paul's supporters are far more involved in the process than supporters of other candidates, so in many case he ends up with a majority of delegates even though he did not win the popular vote.

In the case of Virgin Islands voters there vote first for the Presidential Preference then for a delegate, they are separate, and for some reason, Romney's supporters were more successful in the election of delegates.

 

I just started a thread about this. My b I'll go delete it.

 

so exactly how many delegates does Paul get for winning the Virgin Islands?

 

The article, citing the Virgin Islands GOP, states that Romney actually won 7 delegates and Paul only won 1. This is because voters first voted their preference (Paul won that vote) then voted for Delegates, the delegates that won happened to be Romney supporters.

The opposite of this is what is happening with a lot of the Caucus states (and even some Primary states). Paul is ending up winning the majority of delegates in many states where he did not win the "Preference Poll" (Vote). This is why the Paul Campaign is still "in it" and is claiming that they are doing far better than the projected delegate counts indicate.

 

I THINK PAUL GETS 1 IF HE IS LUCKY..
It is all about delegates..

Maybe try again ...next election cycle or when he is 200 years old..

The rules are the rules..

 

It is all about the delegates. That's why I love this story. Up until now people have been nay-saying Paul's delegate strategy. They keep saying "He hasn't won a State."

Then when he wins a State, and Romney wins the majority of delegates, all of a sudden it is, "It is all about the delegates...the rules are the rules..."

Why I think the Virgin Islands was perfect, is that it forces Paul-detractors to admit that the delegate process is separate from the popular votes. It also, in a way, makes Paul-detractors admit that in all the States that Paul is taking the majority of delegates, he is actually the winner.

You are right, Romney "won" the Virgin Islands; but Paul may likely win Iowa, Nevada, Colorado, Alaska, Washington, and Maine. Maybe even Georgia.

He may even win the Nomination; that is, if it is truly all about the delegates.

 

Paul haters need to be consistent. Either Ron Paul won the Virgin Islands or Ron Paul might win Iowa, Maine, Nevada...

Take your pick.

 

What Paul and newt and Santorum need to realize is that these un committed delegates will commit to the strongest ..most winning of the remaining guys left standing..

not the weakest.
The one with the most popular vote and most state wins.

 

Okay, cool. Now it's all about the delegates. That's fine.

Ron Paul currently has 66 delegates. He needs over 1100 to win.

All worship aside, it doesn't take a genius to realize that it simply is not going to happen.

 

Way to go Ru Paul! It's about time that the greatest presidential candidate of all time finally won something.

 

"At Last". I didn't know the Virgin Islands had a vote. Live and Learn.

 

According to everyone Ron Paul (and the other candidates) have varying numbers of delegates. I would go by the numbers reported by Ben Swann after Super Tuesday, which had Paul at 11, Romney at 244, and 197 non-pledged delegates, the majority of which will likely go to Paul.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYmgy2eHyKI"]Reality Check: The Real Republican Delegate Numbers - YouTube[/ame]

So the number are probably closer to Romney 300, Paul 100+ (post Super Tuesday).

Also, there are many Ron Paul supporters who will go to the convention as delegates bound to Romney or Santorum; if the convention goes to a second vote, they will be free to vote Ron Paul.

After the second vote, Ron Paul delegates will be doing heavy lobbying to convince the other delegates to nominate Ron Paul.

Really, this contest won't be over until the convention, the actual number of delegates won't be known until the first (or even second) round of voting; as pledged delegates, while bound to vote for a specific candidate in the first round, can also abstain from voting in the first round.

 

They're pretty laid back there, I'm sure they didn't mind you not knowing...

 

Remember that when Dr Paul starts accumulating more delegates than he was assumed to have originally won.

 

no

What you need to realize is that a Ron Paul supporter will not support one of the fake conservatives.

 

ron paulogists have this deluded idea that they'll be able to persuade delegates to vote for ron paul at the gop convention

they tried it in 2008 and of course it didn't get off the ground

 

Rachel Maddow nails it, "Romney Wins by Losing to Ron Paul."

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YC2rhz6DQI"]Mitt Romney Wins By Losing To Ron Paul? - Rachel Maddow, MSNBC - YouTube[/ame]

 

Does Ron Paul get to keep them?

 

...and will thereby, because of sheer stupidity and belligerence, guarantee an Obama re-election in November.

Kudos to all those BRILLIANT Ron Paul Zealots!

 

The people voting for Obama will get him re-elected. The ol fearmongering you better vote for this (*)(*)(*)(*)ty candidate or the other (*)(*)(*)(*)ty candidate will get in doesnt fly anymore.

 

Exactly. I go to GOP meetings regularly. When they ask me, "If Ron Paul is not the Nominee will you vote for Romney?" I tell them that I can't vote for Obama, and for the same reasons I couldn't vote for Romney, because on the issues I'm concerned about they are the same:

*Foreign Policy
*Economics (perhaps they have different pet projects; but neither is serious about balancing the budget and getting rid of the debt)
*Civil Liberties
*The War on Drugs

To that most Republicans respect where I am coming from. There are substantial differences between the candidates, and in the big picture, compared to Ron Paul, the Republican field looks a lot like President Obama.

I've also been asked, "If Ron Paul runs Third-Party would you vote for him and insure an Obama victory."

To that I say, "It doesn't matter whether Ron Paul runs Third-Party or not, many of the people who would vote for him as a Republican will not vote for Romney. The question is, will you insure an Obama victory by nominating Romney?"

 

All I can say is that if the convention goes to secondary rounds of voting people better not (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about Dr Paul getting more votes.

His delegates are going to the convention in states where he didn't win the popular vote. they will vote for him.

 

just so you know, if hell freezes over and delegates give ron paul a major vote, the gop leaders won't accept it and will make them vote until they're satisfied with the outcome