Ron Paul Wins the Virgin Islands! (Romney Takes Majority of Delegates...)

As far as the GOP is concerned, in context of the RNC, the Virgin Islands is considered a "state" the same as the 50 States;

http://www.gop.com/images/legal/2008_RULES_Adopted.pdf

Whenever used in Rule Nos. 25 - 41, “state”
or “states” shall be taken to include American Samoa,
the District of Columbia, Guam, Northern Mariana
Islands, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands​

The most important use of the word "state" is in Rule No. 40; "Nominations":

(b) Each candidate for nomination for
President of the United States and Vice President of the
United States shall demonstrate the support of a
plurality of the delegates from each of five (5) or more
states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of
that candidate for nomination.​

If Romney needed it, he'd certainly use his plurality of delegates in the Virgin Islands to count as a "state."

Ron Paul will likely be able to use Maine, Colorado, Georgia, Washington, Alaska, Nevada, and maybe even Iowa...because he'll likely have the plurality of delegates in those states.

Again, it isn't about the votes or "winning" states, it's about the delegates, and in context of the Primary (which is what we are talking about); the Virgin Islands is a "state."

 

you're just demonstrating your inability to understand what facts are

territories aren't states no matter what abstract concern you apply


fact: The United States Virgin Islands is an unincorporated territory of the United States.

fact: this is a complete list of united states states

1. Alabama
2. Alaska
3. Arizona
4. Arkansas
5. California
6. Colorado
7. Connecticut
8. Delaware
9. Florida
10. Georgia
11. Hawaii
12. Idaho
13. Illinois
14. Indiana
15. Iowa
16. Kansas
17. Kentucky
18. Louisiana
19. Maine
20. Maryland
21. Massachusetts
22. Michigan
23. Minnesota
24. Mississippi
25. Missouri
26. Montana
27. Nebraska
28. Nevada
29. New Hampshire
30. New Jersey
31. New Mexico
32. New York
33. North Carolina
34. North Dakota
35. Ohio
36. Oklahoma
37. Oregon
38. Pennsylvania
39. Rhode Island
40. South Carolina
41. South Dakota
42. Tennessee
43. Texas
44. Utah
45. Vermont
46. Virginia
47. Washington
48. West Virginia
49. Wisconsin
50. Wyoming

 

Sshhh dont tell the rest that america has territories around the wolrd....it would make them look imperialistic!!

 

i suspect that would only apply to those ignorant of history and lunatics

 

I think they figured it out when "we" started overthrowing democratically elected leaders and invading countries around the world...

But yes, the fact we still have Territories is troubling. They should be offered Statehood or the ability to self-govern.

 

The topic of this thread is the contests involved in the GOP Primary. You say "hasn't won a state." I assume you aren't talking about "winning" in respects to conquering the state and claiming it as their own.

Romney hasn't "won" any states in the game of world domination, but he has "won" "states" in the GOP Primary, and in all respects to the topic of this thread and the conversation, having won either New Hampshire or the Virgin Islands counts as the same type of "win." And where the rules of the RNC are concerned, both are referenced as "states."

But if it makes you feel better, let's call them "contests."

Ron Paul has won a Primary Contest in the Virgin Islands.

Can you live with that?

 

the point is that isn't going to get ron paul nominated, no matter how you jack the wagon up

 

State or territory doesn't matter.

Paul won popular vote, Romney won delegates.

This is example of what is happening nationally, except it's Paul winning more delegates in many cases.

 

And where are those delegates? How do you measure how many delegates are with Paul right now? And if it is so easy to determine what the numbers are, why has the media not picked up on this?

 

Honestly, I don't think the media is really that good at the "investigative journalist" aspect of their job. They are very good at maintaining a "reality."

Here is a story from Seattle, WA where we took all 21 delegates going to the State Convention:

http://www.dailypaul.com/221373/flash-update-seattle-washington-caucus

We have a lot of stories like this. We really don't know what the delegate count will be until the State Convention(s) in all of the Caucus states. Then we can have a better number.

The mainstream media outlets are reporting predictions based on the vote totals of how the delegates will be distributed, but that only works with some of the states, not all. All we are saying, is that in the states where delegates haven't been determined we can't be certain of who will get them, but from our "reports" of supporters attending the county conventions (and who stayed at the Caucus precincts after the vote when the delegates were determined there), we are doing very well, and taking the majority in a lot (but not all) of the Precincts and, now, Counties.

Still, we have to wait for the State Conventions to know for sure who those states are sending to the RNC as delegates (and how many of them will be voting for Paul).

Does that help?